tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post1149273101047651208..comments2024-03-07T00:24:23.674-05:00Comments on FBC Jax Watchdogs: Robert Jeffress: The Collapse of America is InevitibleFBC Jax Watchdoghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10740366031265491559noreply@blogger.comBlogger51125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-69176291595361532132015-08-25T17:32:04.342-04:002015-08-25T17:32:04.342-04:00Why on earth do Americans think their form of Chri...Why on earth do Americans think their form of Christianity is " the" form of Christianity that God wants? That's the biggest bunk I have ever heard. <br />This nation is being lead down the path to hell by the Ministers in this nation and the people in the pews can't see the path they are going down. <br /><br />The church in 2015 has driven more people away from Christ, and they don't care. <br /><br />The ' nones ' and ' Dones' are the growing trend for followers of Christ. And who can blame them for not attending church? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-46506459667333203042015-08-25T15:54:09.668-04:002015-08-25T15:54:09.668-04:00Scott - I also hope he imparts knowledge to physic...Scott - I also hope he imparts knowledge to physicians and scientists so they can find a cure. Maybe like talking to them like he did to you to confirm all the scriptures are true. He is all powerful and all knowing and all good, all the time, either way, Amen! <br /><br />Of course I don't think you trust a church or a man for a cure for cancer. Read my previous posts. But you trust him with the inerrancy of the word and with your salvation, just not with finding a cure. Because of course, he could have already done that by divine inspiration if he wanted to. I get it. Peace.FBC Jax Watchdoghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10740366031265491559noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-39035436991723604062015-08-25T14:49:49.005-04:002015-08-25T14:49:49.005-04:00FBC Watchdog said "Scott - I hope the church ...FBC Watchdog said "Scott - I hope the church finds a cure for your niece. Keep praying."<br /><br />Your cynicism, bitterness, and sarcasm knows no bounds. Do you truly believe that I pray to a Church or a man for a cure for cancer for my niece? I feel sorry for you. I really do. The Lord will either miraculously heal her or he will impart knowledge to physicians and scientists to discover a cure. Or he will not. Either way, God still receives glory and He remains Sovereign. <br /><br />Again. despite your current beliefs and vitriol towards those who disagree with you, you will receive prayers. <br /><br />Scott<br /><br /><br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-24974611361880147962015-08-25T14:31:25.821-04:002015-08-25T14:31:25.821-04:00Off Topic...A "prophet" confronts John M...Off Topic...A "prophet" confronts John MacArthur:<br /><br />https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8H4OG0ZGWI<br /><br /><br /><br /><br />Redneck Bubba was here!!!!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-59102822900627188372015-08-25T12:33:28.458-04:002015-08-25T12:33:28.458-04:00Ramesh - Thy Peace, it is good to have you back fr...Ramesh - Thy Peace, it is good to have you back friend. FBC Jax Watchdoghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10740366031265491559noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-20858681352020380342015-08-25T12:31:53.267-04:002015-08-25T12:31:53.267-04:00All I know is every other religion is wrong. End o...All I know is every other religion is wrong. End of story. And the Catholics are wrong. End of story. And all denominations except mine in protestantism are wrong. End of story. And even those within my denomination who are Calvinists are wrong. End of story. And those that believe once saved always saved are wrong. End of story. And those that are right about that but don't believe all the scriptures are wrong. End of story. And those that disagree with me are attacking Jesus and God and are wrong. End of story. Now, let's have a debate. And I will pray for you. God confirmed my views. So take it up with God, not me. Brother.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-2984297722230950922015-08-25T12:11:56.986-04:002015-08-25T12:11:56.986-04:00"We gotta get 'em lost before we can get ..."We gotta get 'em lost before we can get 'em saved". <br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-32587695971376088722015-08-25T12:00:29.619-04:002015-08-25T12:00:29.619-04:00$239,000.00 ???? $239,000.00 ???? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-2224042762863644162015-08-25T11:45:03.269-04:002015-08-25T11:45:03.269-04:00Scott - I hope the church finds a cure for your ne...Scott - I hope the church finds a cure for your neice. Keep praying.FBC Jax Watchdoghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10740366031265491559noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-56587604287516368112015-08-25T11:40:04.576-04:002015-08-25T11:40:04.576-04:00That comment from Scott is what is harming people ...That comment from Scott is what is harming people and their faith, not Tom's opinions expressed about his faith and what he considers to be the harmful faith of others. Scott prays for Tom because he thinks Tom is not truly a Christian, and that therefore Tom is going to burn forever and ever in hell.<br /><br />Well, Scott, I can tell you that for you to voice those concerns - which really are just a soft sell on accusations of apostasy against Tom - probably don't hurt him much. But I can tell you for SURE...I have had the same viewpoint of Tom for a long time, and the shame and guilt and blame and accusations leveled against me by friends and family are oh so hurtful. I have family members who say exactly like you, almost the same words: we're "concerned" that you're not "saved", and we're "concerned" that you're hurting your family by expressing your views about scripture that are not in accordance with the SBC. I've suffered through having been blamed for all sorts of ills in my immediate and extended family - I'm not kidding. This sort of fundamental nonsense, requiring people to bow down to fundamentalism in order to prove to someone they are true Christians: it is harmful to families, to marriages, to children, and on and on. I know it. I've lived it.<br /><br />So Watchdog, or Tom or whoever, keep preaching what you're preaching. People do NOT have to toe the narrow viewpoint of the fundamentalist Baptists in order to be a true, born-again follower of Jesus. We need MORE people like Tom daring to speak out and come out and tell people - especially young people today that they can have faith in Christ without swallowing hook line and sinker all the baloney that comes forth from fundamentalists these days.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-36127148070679532322015-08-25T11:31:13.920-04:002015-08-25T11:31:13.920-04:00Fwiw I have not seen such intense commenting since...Fwiw I have not seen such intense commenting since the early days of this blog.Rameshhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09728392311602332613noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-44891722287326881552015-08-25T11:29:33.092-04:002015-08-25T11:29:33.092-04:00Watchdog -- sorry, "brother" just happen...Watchdog -- sorry, "brother" just happens to be the vernacular used when talking to other men in the small Texas town I am from. I assure you my reference to you as "brother" was not to mean a fellow Brother in Christ. God is the one and only ultimate judge of man, but His Text does speak about good trees bearing good fruit. Hence the sincere prayers sir. In truth, I do have a hard time believing the realness of your relationship with Christ given this Blog and its words over the last few weeks and really the last many years. My heart does break for you and for the many sheep who have soaked up your negative words for a very long time. And so yes, I do sincerely or "sincerely" pray for you. Just as much as I pray daily for a cure for my niece who has neuroblastoma (childhood cancer) along with the other tragedies you mentioned in this world. <br /><br />Despite the world we live in, I do hold to the Christ that the infallible, inerrant Bible speaks the truth about. And I pray for you and many others because the God, Jesus, Holy Spirit breathed Word commands me to. <br /><br />Scott Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-14587724976823292192015-08-25T11:18:00.901-04:002015-08-25T11:18:00.901-04:00Anon 10:05: Please read my recent posts again car...Anon 10:05: Please read my recent posts again carefully. At no time do I claim or insist on any monopoly on divine truth. That is exactly what I am saying I don't have, and neither do you or any "holy man of God" or "holy" ancient scripture. Ironically, you call me a zealot for religion because I have pointed out the dangers of religion. I am only pointing out that those that hurt other people and themselves by taking their religious nonsense too seriously, need to re-evaluate what their true faith and love is for. Jesus? Or their own religious beliefs? Or an ancient text? Put God first brother. Peace.FBC Jax Watchdoghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10740366031265491559noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-37622094899835041872015-08-25T11:13:43.239-04:002015-08-25T11:13:43.239-04:00Scott - Thank you for "sincerely" prayin...Scott - Thank you for "sincerely" praying for me. But please, I would rather you pray for a cure for Autism, or childhood cancer, or for those being beheaded in other countries for being Christians. And why do you feel sorry for one you call "brother." And yes I can claim to believe in Christ and doubt certain scriptures. Yes. I can. And I do. You are the one that needs to deal with that.FBC Jax Watchdoghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10740366031265491559noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-24705588743005337442015-08-25T10:28:38.139-04:002015-08-25T10:28:38.139-04:00Watchdog -- I feel sorry for you brother. I since...Watchdog -- I feel sorry for you brother. I sincerely hope that the Lord changes your heart and you see the Bible for what is truly is. You can't claim to only believe in Christ but doubt Scripture. John 1:1. I will sincerely pray for you. <br /><br />ScottAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-86471011500767982902015-08-25T10:25:44.234-04:002015-08-25T10:25:44.234-04:00$239,000$239,000Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-34890179488119697242015-08-25T10:05:05.433-04:002015-08-25T10:05:05.433-04:00And I will add, you are guilty of the very stubbor...And I will add, you are guilty of the very stubborn insistence of a monopoly on knowing divine truth that you criticize in fundamentalists (I think we can all agree that Jesus' "same measure you use" comes straight from the mouth of God). So in reality you are just as much a "zealot" for your religion as they are, probably even more so. Here you are spending a considerable amount of time on a blog professing your religion while at the same time criticizing others for taking THEIR religion too seriously. Wow.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-80756434016678697042015-08-25T09:51:37.852-04:002015-08-25T09:51:37.852-04:00Anon 9:29 - Nice come back. "You are wrong. E...Anon 9:29 - Nice come back. "You are wrong. End of story." We could all see that one coming. Right back at ya. And speaking of "tone", have you ever heard some baptist preachers talking down to their congregration while angrily stomping around like pompous asses on stage for 40 minutes at a time, week after week? Now that is a condescending, belittling tone that won't change anyone's mind.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-34045188790077401252015-08-25T09:47:03.585-04:002015-08-25T09:47:03.585-04:00Anon - Because I love Jesus and love God, I see th...Anon - Because I love Jesus and love God, I see the harm and danger in charlatans and fundamentalists (in every religion) lying about God and manipulating people that love Jesus. It hurts families. It hurts our country. So I blog about it. And they do go outside the parameters of the law when they deny equal rights to others, or use government to impose their beliefs on others. But you are right. I know I won't change anyone's mind. And yes, I enjoy venting my disdain for fundamentalism. Thanks for reading and commenting.FBC Jax Watchdoghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10740366031265491559noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-89810439420236561082015-08-25T09:29:46.227-04:002015-08-25T09:29:46.227-04:00The Holy Spirit didn't tell you anything of th...The Holy Spirit didn't tell you anything of the sort. You didn't directly answer the questions, as I knew you wouldn't. Everything you claim to believe has no source of authority other than your feelings. I don't see any point in furthering this debate. You are wrong. End of story.<br /><br />I will close by stating I don't see what positive thing you are accomplishing with this new blog (other than making a few bucks on ad space). You did a great service when you focused on charlatans and manipulators in the evangelical world, but now you're targeting the faith of ordinary, rank and file, good-hearted people. What is it to you if millions of Christians believe the Bible is 100 percent inspired? They're not hurting you or anyone else (yes, many non-Christians make false claims of Christians oppressing them but those claims are for the most part nonsense). They're not blowing up buildings or committing suicide bombings or doing anything outside the parameters of the law. And even if you believe you have some positive goal to accomplish with this blog, I don't understand the scoffing, condescending, belittling tone. Do you really think you're going to change anyone's mind with such a tone? I can't help but think the only reason for this blog at this point is for you to vent your disdain for fundamentalism.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-77115759682485771632015-08-25T09:22:23.855-04:002015-08-25T09:22:23.855-04:00I believe the song "How Great Thou Art" ...I believe the song "How Great Thou Art" is inspired by God. It tells me truths about God and how great he is. So what? Does that make it inerrant, infallible and scientifically accurate on all points? Should I build a religion around it? Believe it all or none of it? Relax everyone.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-56133171963258815142015-08-25T09:19:26.647-04:002015-08-25T09:19:26.647-04:00Bill Jordan wrote: "I'm searching for God...Bill Jordan wrote: "I'm searching for God right now but I've already determined I won't find him here. Sorry..." <br /><br />The Bible says in Romans 3:10-11: As it is written: “There is no one righteous, not even one; there is no one who understands; there is no one who seeks God."<br /><br />So Bill, who is lying: YOU or God's word?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-61252174149239289532015-08-25T09:13:58.656-04:002015-08-25T09:13:58.656-04:00Bill - Agreed. You won't find God here in this...Bill - Agreed. You won't find God here in this blog. It is the opinions and beliefs of men. You also won't find him in some cult. Or in some religion. Good luck finding him.FBC Jax Watchdoghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10740366031265491559noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-76528287494256949352015-08-25T08:53:49.088-04:002015-08-25T08:53:49.088-04:00Anon 7:30, Let me be perfectly clear and honest: G...Anon 7:30, Let me be perfectly clear and honest: God never told me anything. My friends and relatives and men paid to preach the Bible told me what it said and what it means. They told me to take some verses literally and that others didn't apply to me, but applied only to the Jews of that day. They told me I had to know the Greek to understand some passages and that I can't just take verses out of context but needed further research into how it really applied. ("Slaves obey your masters") I've never heard God's voice. Never saw any supernatural revelation of anything. Never seen even one miracle, personally, or on YouTube or television. But by faith, I did agree that I was a sinner, repented of my sin, and trusted in Jesus for my salvation through faith, and not by works. <br /><br />Now, what do you mean by the words "through divine revelation?" Are you talking about the Book of Mormon? The Quran? Or some ancient texts written hundreds of years after the fact, that were later found in the sand or jars or caves, then had a group of political and religious men decide which ones to believe and which ones to throw out. Or was their some kind of supernatural explanation (divine?) where the Creator actually spoke to you personally? (a burning bush perhaps? A talking donkey?) And if so, we don't need the Bible because if God speaks to us personally we can believe whatever and say God told me to do it. Why would I trust what some man told me God told him? Also, if the Creator God speaks to anyone, let's make sure CNN shares it with the rest of us. I have to be honest with you. I don't trust a man who tells me God told him to tell me. Usually those men are saying that God said something that is self serving to them. God never called them to a smaller church, or to give money to me for my Christmas bonus, or to give the majority of the collections each week to the poor and orphan and widow. <br /><br />Also, God "confirmed to" you that "all of it" is true? So the sun was rotating around the earth and then stopped overhead. God confirmed to you that is true? Wow. All this time I thought the earth was rotating around the sun and spinning on its axis. But hey, if God confirmed it to you.<br /><br />By the way, the Holy Spirit confirmed to me that the Bible is NOT all true. That the stories got embellished or facts got twisted over hundreds of years of oral traditions before they got written down. Then, on top of that, sinful men, as always, corrupted the writings they did find. They added stuff. They deleted stuff. They made up stuff. They accidentally mistranslated stuff. They were flat out wrong about stuff. AND MY FAITH GREW STRONGER. Because no longer did I have to pretend I believed in talking donkeys, the sun standing still, a large fish swallowing a man, killing all homosexuals, taking over cities and killing the men and raping the women, killing disobedient children, etc. I could now trust fully in God. Not men. Not religion.<br /><br />Also, to answer your question, God "communicates" with us through his creation. I hear the birds, the rolling thunder, see and feel love, peace, and on and on. But I don't see him in crusades, the inquisition, terrorists, or in a 501(c)(3) organization that is corrupt, whether it be the Catholic church, the Mormon Church, the Jehovah's witnesses, the TV faith healer, Islam, the pompous ass Baptist preacher or religious fanatics who say they believe one thing (trust Jesus for salvation), but then do another (insist God talks to them, have to believe it all or none, etc.)<br /><br />Pretty simple to understand for most people. But oh so upsetting for the indoctrinated.FBC Jax Watchdoghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10740366031265491559noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-34323612072292461732015-08-25T07:53:05.982-04:002015-08-25T07:53:05.982-04:00Anon 8:43:
I believe that much of the Pentateuch,...Anon 8:43:<br /><br />I believe that much of the Pentateuch, written during the Babylon exile, was a divinely inspired parable. In particular, Genesis is a creation story much like the other creation stories of that time and region, with the exception that Yahweh is the creator God who loves and judges instead of some other being. And Yahweh, the God of the Israelites, is a god who cannot be imaged in stone and who does not demand human sacrifice, such as the sacrifice of newborns by burning. Just as I do not believe that the parables of Jesus are literally true, but are theologically true, stories he created in order to teach us about God.60 years a Baptist Christiannoreply@blogger.com