tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post1203596521541328287..comments2024-03-07T00:24:23.674-05:00Comments on FBC Jax Watchdogs: The Truth is Incontrovertible - Judge Norman Moon Tells Caner He Must Pay All of Autry's Legal ExpensesFBC Jax Watchdoghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10740366031265491559noreply@blogger.comBlogger47125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-72394891895187175472014-07-08T22:29:41.396-04:002014-07-08T22:29:41.396-04:00Baptist Press has not had one line about Caner'...Baptist Press has not had one line about Caner's being proved a liar. They did have a little item about the college.Arcehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08734871357005903281noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-65143697808592769362014-07-08T22:04:08.414-04:002014-07-08T22:04:08.414-04:00The Streisand Effect is kicking in: Ken White at P...<i>The Streisand Effect is kicking in: Ken White at Popehat has written an article about Caner's defeat.</i><br /><br /><a href="http://www.popehat.com/2014/07/08/poseur-pastor-pouts-pursues-preposterous-proceeding-procures-painful-penalty" rel="nofollow">That</a> was epic. The latest chapter in the tale of Ergun Caner describes this "effect" to a tee:<br /><br /><i>Caner has failed utterly, has been exposed for his censoriousness, and <b>has had his dishonestly much more thoroughly documented and widely publicized than it would have been if he had not been such a vindictive jackass</b>.</i>New BBC Open Forumhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18300115421477555376noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-70210099242373635692014-07-08T21:16:52.596-04:002014-07-08T21:16:52.596-04:00Moses Model,
Caner still owns a house in Lynchbur...Moses Model,<br /><br />Caner still owns a house in Lynchburg (big one sold but a smaller one left) in case he doesn't list it as an asset. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-12858965958371028722014-07-08T19:56:53.749-04:002014-07-08T19:56:53.749-04:00"Some of you really need to ask yourself why ..."Some of you really need to ask yourself why you are so angry all of the time."<br /><br />Marines are lied to. SBC officials are fine with preschoolers signing NDAs. Why are you not angry?<br /><br />"Sad so sad. Jesus loves. Why don"t you try to love and let God condemn?"<br /><br />Because it does not work. I waited for God to condemn. Ergun kept lying. I decided to tell people, still waiting on God to condemn. Ergun unlawfully sued me. I waited for God to condemn. I contacted Ergun and offered to never criticize him for the rest of my life. I waited for God to condemn. Ergun served me anyway. While God had not condemned, two law firms that my brother worked for took pity on me and let my brother represent me pro bono. Ergun lied and lied about me and about him. I waited for God to condemn. The judge condemned Ergun twice. So far, I am still waiting on God. If God wants to condemn, nothing is stopping Him. Moses Modelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16027355755303728808noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-56212763461396560952014-07-08T17:59:48.343-04:002014-07-08T17:59:48.343-04:00"Some of you really need to ask yourself why ..."Some of you really need to ask yourself why you are so angry all of the time."<br /><br />Now here we go again with the judging of motivations. Shame.<br /><br />"Sad so sad. Jesus loves. Why don"t you try to love and let God condemn?"<br /><br />Perhaps you should take your own advice and not condemn those commenting on this blog.<br /><br />Still waiting for a verse that teaches us to ignore sin in the assembly. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-75381421815319757972014-07-08T17:56:04.854-04:002014-07-08T17:56:04.854-04:00The Streisand Effect is kicking in: Ken White at P...The Streisand Effect is kicking in: Ken White at Popehat has <a href="http://www.popehat.com/2014/07/08/poseur-pastor-pouts-pursues-preposterous-proceeding-procures-painful-penalty/" rel="nofollow">written an article about Caner's defeat</a>.<br /><br />For those of you unfamiliar with Popehat, it's a very popular law blog with a heavy focus on free speech and censorship issues.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-42817242415183788272014-07-08T17:54:23.447-04:002014-07-08T17:54:23.447-04:00"You can not "restore" someone AFTE..."You can not "restore" someone AFTER they repent and btw you are not Jesus and EC goes NOT have to repent to you."<br /><br />Burn that straw man!<br /><br />"It also says GENTLY!! there is nothing gentle about cyberstalking a man trying to point out any flaws you can find."<br /><br />You would be the expert on that subject. Your critiques are indeed gentle and kind.<br /><br />"If Jesus would have done this to the Pharisees he would not have had time to do anything else."<br /><br />Not sure it would have been possible for Jesus to cyberstalk the Pharisees. Al Gore hadn't invented the Internet yet. But Jesus was very critical of the Pharisees and rebuked them often. Yet he still had time to fulfill the Father's will. How was that possible?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-60395041968093786172014-07-08T11:26:03.426-04:002014-07-08T11:26:03.426-04:00Some of you really need to ask yourself why you ar...Some of you really need to ask yourself why you are so angry all of the time. Sad so sad. Jesus loves. Why don"t you try to love and let God condemn?theheavynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-54356223226718208642014-07-08T11:23:55.391-04:002014-07-08T11:23:55.391-04:00You can not "restore" someone AFTER they...You can not "restore" someone AFTER they repent and btw you are not Jesus and EC goes NOT have to repent to you. It also says GENTLY!! there is nothing gentle about cyberstalking a man trying to point out any flaws you can find. If Jesus would have done this to the Pharisees he would not have had time to do anything else.Theheavynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-86378716199318078802014-07-08T09:33:21.373-04:002014-07-08T09:33:21.373-04:00"I never actually defended Caner but made a s..."I never actually defended Caner but made a statement and got attacked for it even called troll."<br /><br />Sure you did - by attacking those who are following Christian principles. The notion that it is wrong to deal with sin (in a Biblical way) comes from the culture - not the Bible.<br /><br />Your "statement" is also logically flawed. Implying that you can't both hold a Christian leader accountable and love and follow Christ at the same time.<br /><br />I read Galatians 6:1 and did not see where it states we should ignore sin in the lives of believers. <br /><br />Try again.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-3821900761662988832014-07-08T08:38:21.816-04:002014-07-08T08:38:21.816-04:00Heavy-you are correct, AFTER they have repentedHeavy-you are correct, AFTER they have repentedAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-4435741537214969492014-07-07T07:33:16.993-04:002014-07-07T07:33:16.993-04:00Galatians 6:1 Brothers and sisters, if someone is ...Galatians 6:1 Brothers and sisters, if someone is caught in a sin, you who live by the Spirit should restore that person gently. But watch yourselves, or you also may be tempted. theheavynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-68298764389271517472014-07-07T07:10:29.041-04:002014-07-07T07:10:29.041-04:00I posted earlier " Wow, if some of you obsess...I posted earlier " Wow, if some of you obsessed over the life of..."<br />I never actually defended Caner but made a statement and got attacked for it even called troll. theheavynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-36938510087776432232014-07-07T07:07:39.867-04:002014-07-07T07:07:39.867-04:00Wow, if some of you (TROLLS) weren't so obsess...Wow, if some of you (TROLLS) weren't so obsessed with defending behavior that Jesus condemns, the world wouldn't be so disgusted with the church. <br /><br />Where is your scriptural precedent of ignoring sin in ministry?<br />read Galatians 6:1theheavynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-40146772157055983952014-07-07T01:27:37.757-04:002014-07-07T01:27:37.757-04:00There is a good article on this in the Associated ...<i>There is a good article on this in the Associated Baptist Press.</i><br /><br />And I'm just speculating here, but there's probably not been a peep about it in the <i>Baptist Press</i>. Anyone know?New BBC Open Forumhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18300115421477555376noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-16566758059197861692014-07-05T21:26:41.325-04:002014-07-05T21:26:41.325-04:00@Moses Model said: "PS - I am not that smart,...@Moses Model said: "PS - I am not that smart, I just have a lawyer for a brother."<br /><br />Nonsense! You *are* that smart, and your brother is one fine lawyer. (And to be honest, EC makes one fine plaintiff, bless his heart.) <br /><br />I'm not a lawyer, but over the years I've spent a fair amount of time working with lawyers on First Amendment and civil rights issues, so I've had occasion to read a goodly number of decisions.<br /><br />I am positive I could hear the judge alternatively laughing and growling at EC as he wrote his decision. It was wonderfully entertaining to read, and I congratulate you, Mr. Autry, for the work you did in unmasking EC and sticking with the matter all the way through to the District Court decision. It's always a pleasure when the good guy wins, but it's a special sort of victory when a bully gets served a defeat seasoned with well deserved, carefully worded disdain.<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-56823818898777801982014-07-05T21:23:58.087-04:002014-07-05T21:23:58.087-04:00Moses Model:
Congratulations on a well-deserved w...Moses Model:<br /><br />Congratulations on a well-deserved win. If he appeals the fee judgment and loses on appeal (which seems likely since the judge has wide discretion), wouldn't your brother be entitled to appellate fees as well? You have the upper hand on appeal as well - not much incentive for you to settle, except to make the whole ordeal end.<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-53111770056740056392014-07-05T08:41:27.101-04:002014-07-05T08:41:27.101-04:00Looks like a pure case of free speech.Looks like a pure case of free speech.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-55331057711918431482014-07-04T21:20:47.367-04:002014-07-04T21:20:47.367-04:00There is a good article on this in the Associated ...There is a good article on this in the Associated Baptist Press.Bennett Willishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01200940136846753450noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-26567286350678206622014-07-03T20:31:22.366-04:002014-07-03T20:31:22.366-04:00Moses Model,
It would also earn him another judic...Moses Model,<br /><br />It would also earn him another judicial smack-down from the appellate court who would likely also award attorney fees to you for the cost of having to defend a frivolous appeal. If Ergun does decide to appeal I predict it will be pro se. I don't think attorney Gibbs would file the appeal for him. I imagine he's through with Caner and rues the day he ever met him.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-49758638735701157382014-07-03T19:32:03.527-04:002014-07-03T19:32:03.527-04:00But if he appeals, and does not have good grounds ...But if he appeals, and does not have good grounds to do so, the appellate court will award additional fees!!!!Arcehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08734871357005903281noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-48788089120110750392014-07-03T17:54:54.811-04:002014-07-03T17:54:54.811-04:00Debbie,
Ergun let the deadline to appeal on subst...Debbie,<br /><br />Ergun let the deadline to appeal on substance pass. Now he can only appeal on the fees. Judge Moon's ruling is extremely tight and my brother asked for the going rate in 2007 to avoid challenges. There are two reasons to appeal. Tying it up in the appeals court would buy him a 1/2 year to a year to come up with the money. Also, it would give him more time to try to settle for a smaller amount. <br /><br />PS - I am not that smart, I just have a lawyer for a brother.Moses Modelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16027355755303728808noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-26944019157955407462014-07-03T15:29:12.322-04:002014-07-03T15:29:12.322-04:00Not sure the link will work with my previous note ...Not sure the link will work with my previous note to you RE: SACS's BPC Disclosure Statement and the BPC response. This one should. <br /><br />http://www.sacscoc.org/june2014actionsanddisclosurestatements.aspDr. Jupiter aka Dr. Jnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-38776306361191340072014-07-03T14:47:23.102-04:002014-07-03T14:47:23.102-04:00Meanwhile back at the ranch, SACSCOC posted the Br...Meanwhile back at the ranch, SACSCOC posted the Brewton Parker Disclosure Statement to include a statement from BPC. <br /><br />http://tinyurl.com/puok4nk<br />Dr. Jupiter aka Dr. Jnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-85233602368056586982014-07-02T22:11:18.092-04:002014-07-02T22:11:18.092-04:00Caner is so egotistical and arrogant, that I would...Caner is so egotistical and arrogant, that I would be that it will take the court to "compel" Caner to pay. <br /><br />He is so defiant and arrogant and thinks he is above law/rebuke and I wonder if he would actually sit in jail over pay? Of course he may continue to just lie and claim he is broke to try and get out of it.<br /><br />I wonder what his wife thinks of all this , or even if she knows?<br /><br />This situation is really sad and I hope that we all have Caner on our daily prayer list. I ask that everyone pray that God works in this mans life and that he will heed the call and make the changes God needs/wants him to make.Who am I?noreply@blogger.com