tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post2112113939089427276..comments2024-03-07T00:24:23.674-05:00Comments on FBC Jax Watchdogs: "An iPhone is Many Things...a Bible is a Bible"FBC Jax Watchdoghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10740366031265491559noreply@blogger.comBlogger58125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-89698531023736998202010-03-06T12:58:34.695-05:002010-03-06T12:58:34.695-05:00"Parts and parcels of truth are the most enve..."Parts and parcels of truth are the most envenomed shafts which fly from the bow of Satan." <br /><br /> -William HowellsJoshnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-23898643047203467612010-02-13T23:18:14.090-05:002010-02-13T23:18:14.090-05:00I attended Southwestern long before Dr Patterson a...I attended Southwestern long before Dr Patterson arrived, and I've never heard him speak in person, but from what I've read in the Southwestern magazine and in news reports, he thinks the best way to do things is the way he was brought up to do them.<br /><br />The best way to do worship is the way he's accustomed to it being done. Family life should be the way it was in his family. People should dress the way they have throughout his professional life.<br /><br />It's not an uncommon way for people to perceive things, but it seems strange for someone in his position to see the world so provincially.Lonnienoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-62521000850578826112010-02-06T00:42:44.650-05:002010-02-06T00:42:44.650-05:00As a Southwestern student, I have a little more in...As a Southwestern student, I have a little more insight to provide on Patterson's view. He does not allow electronics into the classroom, which is unfortunate for me as I normally take notes on my laptop. The reasons for this are twofold: First, the hard copy is believed to be better for memory as is writing notes. This point might be debatable, but it is a view. Also, an electronic copy does provide the temptation to get distracted.<br />His emphasis is not to demean the texts available electronically. He seems to be more concerned, as an educator, with the best way to receive and to retain information.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-1801615011152293252010-01-26T19:46:20.652-05:002010-01-26T19:46:20.652-05:00Ha - that is so funnyHa - that is so funnyAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-57738917334735284472010-01-25T21:59:51.834-05:002010-01-25T21:59:51.834-05:00You pay for printing cost only, buddy!!! NOT FOR P...You pay for printing cost only, buddy!!! NOT FOR PROFIT, as an author of a book would require! And the Gideons DO give them away. There is always a "joker" out there isn't there.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-67425839975356300662010-01-24T23:26:34.126-05:002010-01-24T23:26:34.126-05:00Antonio wasn't kidding!
Get 'em before th...Antonio wasn't kidding!<br /><br /><a href="http://www.greatsite.com/facsimile-reproductions/kingjames-1611.html" rel="nofollow">Get 'em before they're gone</a>!<br /><br />Word verification: mackedNew BBC Open Forumhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18300115421477555376noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-21063519443121673612010-01-24T08:35:28.789-05:002010-01-24T08:35:28.789-05:00Question for anonymous:
The Deluxe Facsimile &quo...Question for anonymous:<br /><br />The Deluxe Facsimile "400th Anniversary" Edition<br /><br />Behold, the "Holy Grail" of book collectors everywhere, the "Bible to end all Bibles", the First Edition of the beloved 1611 King James Bible. This faithful and exact reproduction of the very first King James Pulpit Bible is indeed a work of art and fine craftsmanship beyond compare. More than a "facsimile", it is a masterpiece.<br /><br />Measuring the exact size of the original 1611 printing: an enormous 17-1/2 inches tall by 12 inches wide by 5-1/2 inches thick (including its slipcase), and weighing almost 30 pounds, so much it nearly takes two people to comfortably move it, this is the finest reproduction of the 1611 ever undertaken. Unlike other facsimiles, this Deluxe Edition is printed on 100% rag cotton linen sheet (not wood-pulp paper), just like the original 1611. We even faithfully reproduced the small quantity of decorative red ink in the prefatory section. The originals that were actually printed in 1611 were commissioned by King James I to be literally chained to the pulpit of every church in England. Now you can own a facsimile replica of that exact same bible.<br /><br />Constructed of the highest quality of thick chocolate-brown leather over five layers of solid birch wooden boards with extra-heavy duty stitching and raised spine bands with gold spine stamping, no detail was overlooked. It even has the elaborate coat of arms of King James blind-stamped into the leather of the front cover! The slip case has a special raised bottom sleeve to totally support the weight of the pages when standing upright. Over $100,000 went into the set-up for production of this magnificent creation. It's just like the real ones, visually IDENTICAL to an original 1611, and actually made out of the exact same materials as an original 1611, except that it is absolutely brand new, and less than one-half-of-one-percent the cost of the last 1611 sold at auction.<br /><br />Each one is a hand-numbered limited edition of only 1,000 total copies made. We still have a few hundred copies available. These massive pulpit folios make a great centerpiece for the communion table or the entry-way in a church. They are also quite popular as centerpieces for private home libraries. If you are looking for something that will make people stop and stare, this is it! Photographs cannot adequately show what a stunning and magnificent display piece this enormous folio is.<br /><br />The Manufacturer's suggested retail price was $5,995 each, while it has been sold at the price of $3,995. Here it is available to you for $995, only 1/4 of the retail price. Acquiring one of these bibles should be viewed as an “investment” and not just a purchase as it’s value will likely appreciate over time.<br /><br />One question if the KJV is not for profit and all other versions of the Bible are, why do don't them give them away for free?Antonio Rodrigo "MINOTAURO" Nogueiranoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-927804709279584612010-01-23T17:54:25.597-05:002010-01-23T17:54:25.597-05:00Anon. 4:31. "The KJV is a delibertly politica...Anon. 4:31. "The KJV is a delibertly political translation. Sponsored by a king that wanted them(?)to justify his "devine right" to rule. It is distorted from the oldest Greek and Hebrew manuscripts."<br /><br />Intelligencia raises it's ugly head again. Baloney!!! Where do you get this garbage? You certainly weren't around then!!! So you are getting this OPINION from some inferior and unreliable source. Seminary teaching is less than reliable. And your info is an OPINION indeed. One good thing about getting to Heaven will be when the Lord holds up the KJV and straightens out all of the "intelligent" people who for years have torn it down. If the KJV was as faulty and riddled with error as many try to paint it why was it the ONLY Bible used for 260 years. Why do you think God allowed it to be used as the ONLY representation of His Word. Do you people really believe that God would have allowed His Word the KJV to be the only Bible used for so long a time, UNCHALLENGED????? Keep in mind that the KJV is not copyrighted, all of the others are. In other words the others are FOR PROFIT. Plus, each new Bible, in order to be published must CHANGE 20% of it's content, in order not to infringe on other Bibles. So add up all of the "bibles" out there and consider each one has at least a 20% change in it, and what do you think? I think you get a "seminary nightmare". Not to mention a destroyed Bible. I have often wondered WHY it is so important for some to TRY to tear down the KJV? Who would it benefit to place doubt on the KJV. I think I know who benefits when doubt is cast on the KJV. I would not want to answer for that one.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-87602022192815545292010-01-23T16:31:39.550-05:002010-01-23T16:31:39.550-05:00Anonymous said...
Matt: "I encourage the KJV ...Anonymous said...<br />Matt: "I encourage the KJV folks to read etc., etc."<br /><br />"Tell you what Matt you read it. I am not interested in it. I have all I need in my KJV. I don't need any thing else. As Solomon said, "there is nothing new under the Sun". I noticed NO ONE has come up with anything new that isn't in the KJV. I personally am not into distorted Bibles. Thanks!<br /><br />January 22, 2010 6:58 PM"<br /><br />The KJV is a deliberately political translation sponsored by a king who wanted them to justify his "divine right" to rule. It is distorted from the oldest Greek and Hebrew manuscripts. One example is the transgendered apostle. Paul writes about the apostle Junia (a female form) and the KJV people made her into Junias, a male form.<br /><br />A whole lot of the patriarchy and hierarchy evident in KJV is due to choice of words to use to translate from the Greek and many times, those choices are not the most accurate translations. Many of the more modern translations, when there is more than one choice, will continue to use the choice that is in the KJV rather than another, more accurate one, so as not to raise the ire of evangelicals and reduce the sales of their version.Arcenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-48817961678156879442010-01-23T00:24:00.711-05:002010-01-23T00:24:00.711-05:00DOG:
I don't agree with you on much, but (gas...DOG:<br /><br />I don't agree with you on much, but (gasp) I think I can side with you on this issue. <br /><br />I am learning to transfer my sermon notes from my macbook to my iPhone via cyberduck. The uses of the iPhone are endless. Here is the link: http://cyberduck.ch/<br /><br />Do you think Patterson would approve of me using my iphone in the pulpit for my sermon notes rather than the traditional 81/2 X 11 paper? <br /><br />chadwickchadwickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04757302930110281925noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-72966303676619669362010-01-22T18:58:44.820-05:002010-01-22T18:58:44.820-05:00Matt: "I encourage the KJV folks to read etc....Matt: "I encourage the KJV folks to read etc., etc."<br /><br />Tell you what Matt you read it. I am not interested in it. I have all I need in my KJV. I don't need any thing else. As Solomon said, "there is nothing new under the Sun". I noticed NO ONE has come up with anything new that isn't in the KJV. I personally am not into distorted Bibles. Thanks!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-78096468907057729662010-01-22T08:28:10.473-05:002010-01-22T08:28:10.473-05:00Scrolls, parchments, iPhone, braille, oak, birch, ...Scrolls, parchments, iPhone, braille, oak, birch, your copy or my copy, the Word is the Bible and none of these forms are 'more Holy' than the other. That's where I get annoyed. Use whichever method works for you and don't wave your judgement wand over everyone else who chooses a different method.<br /><br />Boy, this goes for all the other preferences God allows us to have too, music, hymnals, Imags, TVs, raised hands, no raised hands, choirs, worship teams, bands, orchestras, and so on.<br /><br />The only difference is that technology is here to stay, jump on or get left behind. Check this blog in ten years and get a good laugh at our dialogue.Former FBC Insiderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14110678455091719881noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-10830989744302796292010-01-21T16:12:00.215-05:002010-01-21T16:12:00.215-05:00"There is nothing new in the Dead Sea scrolls..."There is nothing new in the Dead Sea scrolls (now preserved in Israel)that is not presently in the King James Version."<br /><br />There were plenty of scolls and parchments in the old clay pots that have helped us understand better certain things in the Word. Such as divorce and WHY the Pharisees asked Jesus about it. <br /><br />I would encourage any KJV only folks to read the entire long preface written by the translators. It is online.<br /><br />MattAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-50437301785670008382010-01-21T12:26:36.401-05:002010-01-21T12:26:36.401-05:00"How can it be big business is Warren is offe...<i>"How can it be big business is Warren is offering the sermons for free?"</i><br /><br />Thank you. I realized after I posted that it was worded poorly. What I should have said (and what I meant) was free sermons are available at Rick Warren's pastors.com and <i>for sale</i> at dozens of other sites. I was too lazy to go back and rewrite it.<br /><br />I like PC's point about Bible drills. I believe just as electronic calculators should not be used by students until they have mastered basic math skills, the same could be said for electronic forms of the Bible. If you can't recite all 66 books of the Bible in order and quickly find any verse in a Bible, you need to master those skills before switching to the iPhone version. Calculators and electronic Bibles are great tools <i>if</i> one has mastered the skills to do basic math in one's head or using a pencil and paper (let's bring back the slide rule while we're at it) and to be able to readily find one's way around the inside of a printed Bible.New BBC Open Forumhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18300115421477555376noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-10745731331716948392010-01-21T10:16:22.021-05:002010-01-21T10:16:22.021-05:00I have not read all 43 post so someone might had s...I have not read all 43 post so someone might had said this before. The human eye when it looks a a book of something written scans the whole page eventhough you are not aware. It is going back and forth and up and down. For that reason Hard copies are better. I agree with the not taking point. Also there is a familarity with using a hard copy that comes with searching thru it. You can gain a greater knowledge. I think the electronic age though it puts more knowledge hand but since it is at hand and very easy to find we do not retain. Nothing like a good Bible drill to get know your Bible. With the PDA all you have to do is click. I enjoy my Bible software and the ability to click and paste. But I found out since I have been doing this I retain less. I do like the Idea of being able to upload sermon notes to every one as I preach.<br /><br />Pastor ChrisAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-34243098764808808472010-01-20T22:42:49.808-05:002010-01-20T22:42:49.808-05:00Sorry but the scrolls are now dust. They are no lo...Sorry but the scrolls are now dust. They are no longer in existence. God's word is pure and will never pass away. There is nothing new in the Dead Sea scrolls (now preserved in Israel)that is not presently in the King James Version. God is able to preserve his Word forever. Matt 24:35 "Heaven and Earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away".Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-15646928921337916342010-01-20T20:22:53.193-05:002010-01-20T20:22:53.193-05:00New BBC-
How can it be big business is Warren is ...New BBC-<br /><br />How can it be big business is Warren is offering the sermons for free?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-72692415408299173052010-01-20T16:35:43.973-05:002010-01-20T16:35:43.973-05:00No, I knew the anon was serious.
sermons.com
Fre...No, I knew the anon was serious.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.sermons.com" rel="nofollow">sermons.com</a><br /><br />Free sermons are also available at Rick Warren's <a href="http://www.pastors.com/Default.aspx" rel="nofollow">pastors.com</a> as well as dozens of other sites. Apparently it's big business.New BBC Open Forumhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18300115421477555376noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-53844166192758755812010-01-20T16:20:27.943-05:002010-01-20T16:20:27.943-05:00Here's a thought -- if it's better to brin...Here's a thought -- if it's better to bring a printed Bible to church because it's only a Bible (whereas an iPhone is many things), then you should be sure to bring a version that has no footnotes, study notes, book introductions, maps, index, concordance, table of contents, chapter/verse divisions -- all those things can distract from the Bible, and someone might read or look at some of them during the sermon. As someone already said, best to go back to scrolls -- that way we can be sure we have the Word and only the Word. And it should be in the original languages, too, 'cuz, after all, a translation is just man's opinion about what the Bible says...<br /><br />Ok, I laughed out loud. Another good thing about the scrolls is there are no distracting punctuation marks, paragraph breaks, verse numbers or chapter numbers. (wink)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-29585639067426209292010-01-20T16:15:40.998-05:002010-01-20T16:15:40.998-05:00Actually, I just pulled the "sermons.com"...Actually, I just pulled the "sermons.com" out of thin air to be humorous...but it turns out that there is a www.sermons.com that a preacher can subscribe to for $69.95 a year for their "Sermon Prep Package". Gee, I can't believe it. ;)<br /><br />January 20, 2010 1:59 PM<br /><br />Believe it. It is a nice stream of income for some mega's. The whole package, too, with video clips, skits, etc. And it has been going on for about 15 years.<br /><br />AND...it has nothing to do with the Holy Spirit. And that is the problem.<br /><br />MattAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-17334053432187263882010-01-20T13:59:30.909-05:002010-01-20T13:59:30.909-05:00Actually, I just pulled the "sermons.com"...Actually, I just pulled the "sermons.com" out of thin air to be humorous...but it turns out that there is a www.sermons.com that a preacher can subscribe to for $69.95 a year for their "Sermon Prep Package". Gee, I can't believe it. ;)FBC Jax Watchdoghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10740366031265491559noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-24470962630474103302010-01-20T13:30:26.346-05:002010-01-20T13:30:26.346-05:00It is a preference. I prefer the book, but I also...It is a preference. I prefer the book, but I also have it on my iphone and use it quite often. <br />Interesting thought though. I see people on their iphones thinking they aren't paying attention, then find out that they are reading along. But it isn't up to us what we think. God knows. He also knows whether we are just reading it, or taking it to heart.Nicolehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09412369454393593135noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-38541660364215095262010-01-20T12:27:57.316-05:002010-01-20T12:27:57.316-05:00sermons.com??????sermons.com??????Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-3297841848528219292010-01-20T12:07:01.962-05:002010-01-20T12:07:01.962-05:00" Lydia said...
It does not matter the forma..." Lydia said... <br />It does not matter the format if there is no hunger and thirst for Word. That is key.<br /><br />I can remember reading stories of prisoners who would smuggle a bible into prison, tear out pages to pass around. A few pages was like owning gold because the hunger was there. There was no sin or disrespect in the 'format' of torn pages.<br /><br />January 19, 2010 5:33 PM<br /><br /><br />I whole-heartedly agree with your statement Lydia! <br /><br />It's the condition of one's heart; <br /><br />If there is a hunger and thirst,the type media will not matter!!!Bro. Rod H.noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-7236788803826616562010-01-19T23:07:18.813-05:002010-01-19T23:07:18.813-05:00Oooh, junk. Yeah, the smell of new electronics! ...Oooh, junk. Yeah, the smell of <i>new</i> electronics! Mmmm!<br /><br />I think with Patterson a lot of it has to do with image. I mean, <a href="http://www.newbbc.accura.net/PaigePattersonBible.JPG" rel="nofollow">it just wouldn't be the same with an iPhone</a>.New BBC Open Forumhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18300115421477555376noreply@blogger.com