tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post2342483434635836436..comments2024-03-07T00:24:23.674-05:00Comments on FBC Jax Watchdogs: Tebow Shows How a Christian Leader Should Handle Criticism - Pastors, Watch and LearnFBC Jax Watchdoghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10740366031265491559noreply@blogger.comBlogger60125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-40623762058547310772011-11-27T19:20:48.820-05:002011-11-27T19:20:48.820-05:00Blergh. Tim Tebow needs to learn some humility. He...Blergh. Tim Tebow needs to learn some humility. He rubs people the wrong way because he comes across as quite holier than thou. He can start by reading Matthew 6:5: "And when thou prayest, thou shalt not be as the hypocrites are: for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and in the corners of the streets, that they may be seen of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward." <br /><br />Tebow would do better to retire the praying act to his closet, like Jesus said. Otherwise, his reward is going to be the verbal brickbats thrown at him because he is not merely a Christian, but an obnoxious Christian.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-41130916922237827212011-11-23T11:32:10.700-05:002011-11-23T11:32:10.700-05:00The day will come when Tebow's faith will have...The day will come when Tebow's faith will have little to do with his playing or not playing in the NFL, if it does even now. He has abilities that suit him for the present time and his current team. I hope I live long enough to see his faith contributions after the fame of the NFL. He will then have the time, resources, and deeper maturity to make an even greater impact for the gospel. I have to believe his NFL experience is a stepping stone for the greater things God has for him, and I sense that he believes this also.<br /><br />JL CarverAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-58034056189592132152011-11-23T10:25:06.292-05:002011-11-23T10:25:06.292-05:00Quote found on the internet;
"It isn't t...Quote found on the internet;<br /><br />"It isn't that Tim Tebow is a Christian; it's that he acts like he's a better Christian than everyone else."<br /><br />Wonder where he could have gotten that idea?<br /><br /><a href="http://ma-tvideo.france2.fr/video/iLyROoaf2RuN.html" rel="nofollow">Maybe an Anointed's Prayer? </a>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-17518525756984788002011-11-23T08:46:48.205-05:002011-11-23T08:46:48.205-05:00Anyone who knows Tebow knows he is sincere, the re...Anyone who knows Tebow knows he is sincere, the real deal. Having said that, I do think his PDC's are a little over the top, and unnecessary.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-47471583415565286272011-11-22T22:17:45.316-05:002011-11-22T22:17:45.316-05:00I realize this isn't exactly the word you chos...I realize this isn't exactly the word you chose, Louis, but Tebow isn't being "persecuted." Like most public figures he's handling criticism in stride (unlike a lot of megachurch pastors), AND he's being extremely well compensated for being in that "pressure cooker." If I had his abilities and was willing to sacrifice my body and someone was willing to pay me that kind of money I'd accept criticism gracefully, too. And then I'd laugh all the way to the bank!<br /> <br />Tebow has chosen a profession that, unless he's very lucky, will break his body down in a few short years and make him physically old before his time. It has also made him a millionaire several times over. So is the fame and fortune worth living in a fishbowl and the wear and tear on his body? Apparently he and a few hundred other men think so, although IMO not a single one of them is worth the obscene salaries their agents command for them. Nobody's that important.<br /> <br />Unless you know him personally I don't think he's any more deserving of prayers than the missionaries in the field (where there's often real danger and persecution) or your everyday unknown Joe and Jane ministering in the trenches. Tebow is leading a very privileged and blessed life which I'm sure he'd be the first to tell you. Living in the "pressure cooker" is just part of the price. The thing is, I don't see Tebow himself complaining about being under pressure. It's all the armchair quarterbacks out there who seem to perceive that he's under pressure. He looks pretty happy to me as well he should be.New BBC Open Forumhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18300115421477555376noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-92189173658422509442011-11-21T19:14:51.354-05:002011-11-21T19:14:51.354-05:00Beautiful.
We need to continue to pray for this b...Beautiful.<br /><br />We need to continue to pray for this brother.<br /><br />He must be in one of the toughest pressure cookers in the world!<br /><br />LouisAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-22182118475391839922011-11-21T16:49:24.230-05:002011-11-21T16:49:24.230-05:00Anonymous said...
"Why are you not moving o...Anonymous said...<br /> "Why are you not moving on and finding a church where you can worship and be apart of the Body of Christ?"<br /><br /> So that's how it is? Smell a rotten fish and move along, never mind some unsuspecting, loss of smell person thinks its great?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-86316567856131687352011-11-21T14:29:05.359-05:002011-11-21T14:29:05.359-05:00David spake:
"Are you listening because you w...David spake:<br />"Are you listening because you want to find something hypocritical link in his message?"<br /><br />Absolutely, I would always gauge what is said and done against scripture. Just doing the Berean thing, you gotta do that.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-49950506789441801472011-11-21T09:48:01.414-05:002011-11-21T09:48:01.414-05:00As I'm sitting here writing this Mac Brunson i...As I'm sitting here writing this Mac Brunson is on TV at 8:00. Mac is preaching from Job and Mac just said if someone says something bad about you don't talk bad about that person in church or talk about it on the internet, but go to that person and talk to the person that has been talking about you. I think for the first time in First Baptist we have a preacher who stands in the pulpit and tells the people what "THEY" need to do, but not what "MAC" should have done. It's no wonder people are leaving the church. We have a hypocrite in the pulpit who has the "DO as I say, not as I do" mentality. What did we as members of First Baptist do to deserve this kind of preacher who constantly scolds us for doing what he does. If only Mac would be like our previous Pastors and live the life he(Mac) preaches from the pulpit.<br /> <br />November 20, 2011 8:30 AM<br /><br /> Anonymous said... <br />Anon 8:30 am<br /><br />Well said - I agree Brunson is a hypocrite - he preaches what others should do, but feels he himself is exempt from doing the same thing. I too watched the 8am service and thought the same thing.<br /> <br />November 20, 2011 11:56 AM<br /><br />Question: Why are you listening to a pastor you don't respect? Are you listening because you want to find something hypocritical link in his message? Are you like the DAWG who is focused over Mac's (watch out for those Pen camera's that the DAWG reported) existence and every move? Why are you not moving on and finding a church where you can worship and be apart of the Body of Christ?Davidnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-74548866320167310762011-11-21T09:01:17.770-05:002011-11-21T09:01:17.770-05:00I just saw the martyr role comment. I agree with ...I just saw the martyr role comment. I agree with it. But surely it must get old and not be that fun to play that role. I know many of us mothers have tried that card once in awhile, but it gets old and ridiculous quickly, and we move on! ha.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-84754283517475835122011-11-21T08:58:54.293-05:002011-11-21T08:58:54.293-05:00Wow. The guy who sincerely believed he'd go t...Wow. The guy who sincerely believed he'd go to hell for wearing "666." His thinking is pretty far out there and uncommon (I'm assuming,) but we all know where he got this absurd fear-from the Bible, of course, but probably pounded into his head by a fire-and-brimstone fundamentalist preacher. Those guys have messed up the minds of more people! Makes me angry.<br /><br />One huge advantage Brunson and many other pastors have going for them, is the fact that many in the pews TRULY BELIEVE that the pastors are anointed men of God. So they are afraid to even dare to think about criticizing them, much less getting rid of them. To me, it's like if they were the son of The Godfather-you know if you do something they don't like, there WILL be hell to pay. <br /><br />It's all about fear-always has been.<br /><br />I truly can't fathom thinking that you are specially chosen by God personally to do your job and people must not criticize you. Imagine if you criticized me, and I said, "Hey! You better not go there. I'm a very special person. God's not gonna like it that you said that!"Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-90114268826888244492011-11-21T04:32:36.056-05:002011-11-21T04:32:36.056-05:00Come on WD!!! You are better than that!! IF they...Come on WD!!! You are better than that!! IF they acted like that, they could not play the martyr role<br /><br />Get for real.<br /><br />BillAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-54490859043435850542011-11-21T04:27:18.065-05:002011-11-21T04:27:18.065-05:00Come on WD!!! You are better than that!! IF they...Come on WD!!! You are better than that!! IF they acted like that, they could not play the martyr role<br /><br />Get for real.<br /><br />BillAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-54829046789200866102011-11-20T22:27:51.352-05:002011-11-20T22:27:51.352-05:00A gullible sheep?
"wearing 666 would force h...A gullible sheep?<br /><br /><a href="http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57327849/lawsuit-man-fired-for-not-wearing-666-sticker/" rel="nofollow">"wearing 666 would force him "to accept the mark of the beast and to be condemned to hell"."</a>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-48281024559379265012011-11-20T21:01:45.008-05:002011-11-20T21:01:45.008-05:00Junkster said...
"Mac and whiny preache...Junkster said...<br /> "Mac and whiny preachers like him need to remember who pays them."<br /><br />They do.<br /><br />Dumb Sheep, that are afraid they'd go to Hell if they were anywhere near involved removing an Anointed.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-22407771652948934892011-11-20T17:57:01.868-05:002011-11-20T17:57:01.868-05:00I doubt I'd be employed very long if, whenever...I doubt I'd be employed very long if, whenever my boss said something critical about my work (whether he was right or not), my response was to loudly and publicly complain about his criticisms and about how hard my job is, and to tell him he had no right to criticize me.<br /><br />Mac and whiny preachers like him need to remember who pays them.Junksterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14422651080120306816noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-27191524934597555482011-11-20T14:47:58.827-05:002011-11-20T14:47:58.827-05:00"Do as I say, not as I do" Sheesh. I t..."Do as I say, not as I do" Sheesh. I think we've hit a new low!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-15737733824219172872011-11-20T14:07:41.093-05:002011-11-20T14:07:41.093-05:00Hmmm, "He was oppressed and afflicted, Yet He...Hmmm, "He was oppressed and afflicted, Yet He opened not His mouth; He was led as a lamb to the slaughter, and as a sheep before it's shearers is silent, so He opened not His mouth."(Isaiah 53:7).....<br />Just another ridiculous comparison. You get the point.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-52154632218364946972011-11-20T13:00:46.894-05:002011-11-20T13:00:46.894-05:00"What did we as members of First Baptist do t..."What did we as members of First Baptist do to deserve this kind of preacher who constantly scolds us for doing what he does."<br /><br />Answer: It might be up to your deacons or elders to step up and confront this nonsense of having his family on the payroll, all the vacancies from the pulpit, and a host of other leadership issues. <br /><br />Not the least of which is the ridiculous no-trespass order against a certain member and his family. How absurd that truly is.<br /><br />I sense that Mac sees the handwriting, his video below kind of indicates a strong defense to anyone who might even think he should go.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-65167739943296701072011-11-20T11:56:25.651-05:002011-11-20T11:56:25.651-05:00Anon 8:30 am
Well said - I agree Brunson is a hyp...Anon 8:30 am<br /><br />Well said - I agree Brunson is a hypocrite - he preaches what others should do, but feels he himself is exempt from doing the same thing. I too watched the 8am service and thought the same thing.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-64954115057717276232011-11-20T08:30:59.561-05:002011-11-20T08:30:59.561-05:00As I'm sitting here writing this Mac Brunson i...As I'm sitting here writing this Mac Brunson is on TV at 8:00. Mac is preaching from Job and Mac just said if someone says something bad about you don't talk bad about that person in church or talk about it on the internet, but go to that person and talk to the person that has been talking about you. I think for the first time in First Baptist we have a preacher who stands in the pulpit and tells the people what "THEY" need to do, but not what "MAC" should have done. It's no wonder people are leaving the church. We have a hypocrite in the pulpit who has the "DO as I say, not as I do" mentality. What did we as members of First Baptist do to deserve this kind of preacher who constantly scolds us for doing what he does. If only Mac would be like our previous Pastors and live the life he(Mac) preaches from the pulpit.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-31465558790518306452011-11-19T22:31:55.549-05:002011-11-19T22:31:55.549-05:00I never said or even implied that Tebow's not ...I never said or even implied that Tebow's not sincere. As I said, I believe he's the real deal. My point, which apparently I didn't make clear, is that "the world" has seen a lot of people who profess to be Christians who do and say all the "Christian" things and then live lives that aren't at all Christlike. It's the disingenuous people who give all Christians a bad name.<br /><br />As for kneeling and praying on the field, I think God can hear him just fine without the display. I don't know. Regardless of the intent, I guess it still strikes me as showboating no matter how sincere the person or his motivation. I think there's a fine line between not being ashamed of the Gospel and doing things for show and that it's important to consider how it comes across to others. That's JMO.<br /><br />As you said, Tebow seems to just do what he feels led to do and doesn't whine about how persecuted he is when he's criticized. And he laughs all the way to the bank while ignoring his critics. Hey, maybe Mac would stop complaining if y'all would give him a big raise!New BBC Open Forumhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18300115421477555376noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-71222003972313289282011-11-19T18:32:30.793-05:002011-11-19T18:32:30.793-05:00NewBBCOpenForum - those of us in Jacksonville, and...NewBBCOpenForum - those of us in Jacksonville, and those who saw Tebow grow up at FBC Jax know that what he is doing now in the NFL is how he has ALWAYS been. It is not a show.<br /><br />Should he stop praying now and acknowledging Jesus Christ just because he hit the big time? He is just being himself and that is sorely needed these days.FBC Jax Watchdoghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10740366031265491559noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-5904818375255415052011-11-19T17:58:52.045-05:002011-11-19T17:58:52.045-05:00Perhaps all he's doing is acknowledging God, w...Perhaps all he's doing is acknowledging God, who gave him his abilities. And kneeling is a measure of his gratefulness. <br /><br />I'd like to think he's not doing any "religious grandstanding". Or, using "christian" behavior to manipulate people over to "God's side". As if God needed such tactics.elastigirlnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-46269928784516926522011-11-19T15:21:18.818-05:002011-11-19T15:21:18.818-05:00I don't agree that Tim Tebow is saying look at...I don't agree that Tim Tebow is saying look at me when he prays. I think he is saying with all his prayers, pointing to the sky, and verses under his eyeballs LOOK At GOD. thats my theory, and I think he's being blessed currently because of it. He tweets BIBLE verses. I think he's trying to point people to God and not himself. And I bet its kind of difficult to have everyone look at you like you are Jesus's son all the time. Cindy T. I'm not allowed to use my last name.....watchdog honestly its a good thing you aren't criticizing tebow...i wouldn't believe it if you did.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com