tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post2626783733461481757..comments2024-03-23T22:54:58.661-04:00Comments on FBC Jax Watchdogs: "Kingdom Kill Joys": Angry Pastors, Angry ChurchesFBC Jax Watchdoghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10740366031265491559noreply@blogger.comBlogger55125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-87045211557197646602009-02-26T16:02:00.000-05:002009-02-26T16:02:00.000-05:00It is Written and the rest of you folks, quit FBC ...It is Written and the rest of you folks, quit FBC and move to our great downtown church @ Shiloh. It is an awesome place to worship. Our new pastor is a great moral man of high integrity and leadership.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-48056236660742079952009-02-20T23:49:00.000-05:002009-02-20T23:49:00.000-05:00Hi WD:I don't know what I was thinking, referring ...Hi WD:<BR/><BR/>I don't know what I was thinking, referring to Blount as the godfather. He's more like Deputy Dawg.<BR/><BR/>But he is a legend in his own mind.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-33749685152188262302009-02-20T23:38:00.000-05:002009-02-20T23:38:00.000-05:00Mac is the Godfather, Vito Corleone.Blount is Tom ...Mac is the Godfather, Vito Corleone.<BR/><BR/>Blount is Tom Hagen or Clemenza.FBC Jax Watchdoghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10740366031265491559noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-18136391167477054172009-02-20T23:20:00.000-05:002009-02-20T23:20:00.000-05:00I wish someone would tell the FBC Jax mafia, w/Blo...I wish someone would tell the FBC Jax mafia, w/Blount as the godfather, that they are going to regret continuing with this nonsense.<BR/><BR/>They will hurt the cause of Christ because they are more interested in being vindictive than in "restoring" someone to fellowship.<BR/><BR/>This will hurt the cause of Christ because it will definitely hit the newspapers.<BR/><BR/>Let us hope the majority of the deacons will recognize this for what it is. It is nothing short of deliberate intimidation directed at anyone who would dare have the nerve to speak out about anything the preacher doesn't approve of first!<BR/><BR/>They can't force the blog to be shut down, legally or otherwise!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-64192919191001242462009-02-20T20:41:00.000-05:002009-02-20T20:41:00.000-05:00"and I can tell you that false rumors about the Wa..."and I can tell you that false rumors about the Watchdog, who he is, what he is, his sexual orientation, etc....rumors have been spread....and I wouldn't doubt that some might be those mentioned above in the Anon post. "<BR/><BR/>YOu are in good company, WD. They spread the same malicious rumors about Wade Burleson trying to ruin his reputation, too.<BR/><BR/>It is pretty amazing what so called Chrisitans will do to keep their earthly treasures intact, isn't it?<BR/><BR/>MattAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-61668688645599456692009-02-20T15:17:00.000-05:002009-02-20T15:17:00.000-05:00Anon 3:00pm...Thanks!..There are a few Faithful me...Anon 3:00pm...Thanks!..There are a few Faithful men of God who toil un-noticed letting the Life and Love of Christ shine thru them..Then their are the many:This new wave of money driven,self promoting,condesending,arrogant,abusive,selfish,and any other adjectives that might describe these perpetrators!!..You know it's odd that practically every New Testament Book deals with wayward interlopers infiltrating the Church and yet there are so-many who still don't have a clue(Mac defenders)!..The many would follow a talking snake as long as he had a Bible in his hand and stated he is a Pastor!!!it is writtenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01714871619485847739noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-42864999276291602662009-02-20T15:13:00.000-05:002009-02-20T15:13:00.000-05:00WD - Perhaps Judge Soud may wish to discuss this w...WD - Perhaps Judge Soud may wish to discuss this with the deacons who are voting next week:<BR/><BR/>Mac says to "take it up with the book", well I say to "take it up with the Florida Supreme Court"<BR/><BR/>I found this case online: Malicki versus Jane Doe, Supreme Court of Florida, March 14, 2002. Here are some conclusions of the Supreme Court of Florida which essentially opens the courthouse doors to people harmed by a religious institution. (ie: allows lawsuits to be filed and heard that involves full discovery, disclosure, subpoena powers, depositions, records requests, liability exposure of staff members, etc.)<BR/><BR/>The question framed to the court was "Whether, in the name of the First Amendment, religious institutions can be shielded from otherwise cognizable tort claims caused by their AGENTS AND EMPLOYEES." (EMPHASIS MINE, this would include trustees and deacons and staff)<BR/><BR/>The court answers the question in the negative, that religious institutions and their agents and employees can NOT be shielded.<BR/><BR/>Some quotes fom the holding: "Conduct remains subject to regulation for the protection of society." <BR/><BR/>"...should hold religious organizations liable in civil courts for secular disputes between third parties and a religiously affiliated organization."<BR/><BR/>"We reject the contention that the First Amendment may be invoked to bar the adjudication of this dispute because this case is not an internal church matter. Rather, this is a dispute between church officials and parishioners who allege they were injured as a result of church officials." <BR/><BR/>"Through neutral application of principles of tort law, we thus give no greater or lesser deference to tortious conduct committed on third parties by religious organizations than we do to tortious conduct committed on third parties by non-religious entities."<BR/><BR/>"The claim is brought after an employee has harmed a third party through his or her office of employment." (I would add trustee or deacon through their position also share this exposure for liability if they vote to act.)<BR/><BR/>Conclusion: "However, with regard to a third party tort claim against a religious institution, we conclude that the First Amendment does not provide a shield behind which a church may avoid liability for harm..."<BR/><BR/>Amen and Amen! Take it up with the Judge, Brutha! <BR/><BR/>Let's just hope our church, its agents, deacons, trustees and committees do NOT "harm" the accused in any way that will subject ALL of them to a civil lawsuit. The WD, or the accused WD, has been accused of harming the church by one harmless, anonymous, beauty shop blog with no credibility (according to the pastor and staff), imagine how much harm will be done if these folks, in their zeal to "support God's" man despite his abuses, actually take action to harm the accused. <BR/><BR/>Stay tuned. I sure am... :0) (Hi Mr. Blount. Have a nice day!)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-11164696850999368142009-02-20T15:06:00.000-05:002009-02-20T15:06:00.000-05:00You know what PEOPLE? I bet all of Bernie Madoff'...You know what PEOPLE? I bet all of Bernie Madoff's victim wish they had a blog exposing his corruption and greed, BEFORE they got burned!!! <BR/><BR/>Lay off the WD. When it comes down to it, WD is the one you can trust, not your pastor and his family. He's the one exploiting all of you people; living an insanely lavish lifestyle off your backs, then blasting you about it because you cry "foul". You tell me how one can defend this. Hey, some people just like to be abused. They think it's normal.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-62374777183652987192009-02-20T15:00:00.000-05:002009-02-20T15:00:00.000-05:00Amen Watchdog don't SHUT EM DOWN!!!As a matter of ...Amen Watchdog don't SHUT EM DOWN!!!<BR/><BR/>As a matter of fact considering what is happening across the country in church after church; there should be a host of new blogs started to show what the likes of Brunson [preachers] have, and are becoming. <BR/><BR/>Before I get out of control let me say this.<BR/><BR/> Thank the Lord for faithful pastors. Men who have woven our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ into every one of their massages over the years. Men who have preached the gospel while feeding Christians the milk, bread and meat. Those who have, by preaching the Word of God, helped build strong men, women, boys and girls. Men who exemplify 1 Tim 3. Spirit filled men of God.<BR/><BR/>Then there are the others!!! The Mac Brunsons. Listen, I'm not sure that he ever enters the pulpit with the Holy Spirit. It looks to me like his messages are all AGENDA DRIVEN. These men want to change everything. They seldom preach the Gospel and rarely mention doctrine. What good are they?<BR/><BR/>Am I mad at these BRUNSONITES?<BR/><BR/>YOU BET I AM!!!<BR/><BR/>THANKS FOR THE STAND DOG, WE ARE WITH YOU.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-91628359967980046652009-02-20T14:23:00.000-05:002009-02-20T14:23:00.000-05:00Dr.Dog..Very good Dr.Dog..If Mac had won by shutti...Dr.Dog..Very good Dr.Dog..If Mac had won by shutting downs this blog,God only knows what OTHER ABUSES he has in mind waiting to implement!!it is writtenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01714871619485847739noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-60758521020584850642009-02-20T14:21:00.000-05:002009-02-20T14:21:00.000-05:00I will never, ever, shut this blog down.Because Ma...<I>I will never, ever, shut this blog down.<BR/><BR/>Because Mac seeks to shut it down.<BR/><BR/>I will not shut it down.<BR/><BR/>Mac, Deb, Trey, and Maurilio, or the Trustees and other enablers, will have to get a court order to shut it down.<BR/><BR/>Yes, a court order.<BR/><BR/>And if they do, it will pop up somewhere else. Plans are in place, it will pop up somewhere else. Yes, it will.</I><BR/><BR/><A HREF="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v387/elkgrovedan/Applause.gif" REL="nofollow">Congratulations, Mac</A>!New BBC Open Forumhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18300115421477555376noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-63884344460996993742009-02-20T14:00:00.000-05:002009-02-20T14:00:00.000-05:00Anon 12:52Let me be very clear.I was going to phas...Anon 12:52<BR/><BR/>Let me be very clear.<BR/><BR/>I was going to phase this blog out.<BR/><BR/>But after I saw Mac's sermon Sunday night, telling his "churchmen and church ladies" that if they encounter someone that "robs their joy" (which is to say voices displeasure at something in the church), to SHUT EM DOWN....I determined at that point.<BR/><BR/>I will never, ever, shut this blog down.<BR/><BR/>Because Mac seeks to shut it down.<BR/><BR/>I will not shut it down.<BR/><BR/>Mac, Deb, Trey, and Maurilio, or the Trustees and other enablers, will have to get a court order to shut it down.<BR/><BR/>Yes, a court order.<BR/><BR/>And if they do, it will pop up somewhere else. Plans are in place, it will pop up somewhere else. Yes, it will.<BR/><BR/>I will continue to point out the abuses of Mac Brunson in and out of the pulpit as I become aware of them.<BR/><BR/>Unrelenting.<BR/><BR/>Mac's arrogance has sealed his fate as it pertains to this blog.<BR/><BR/>He will have to deal with this blog as long as he continues his abuse.<BR/><BR/>And he has been relentless, for THREE YEARS...in being a bully, and behaving in ways contrarty to scripture and to his own Pastor's Guidebook...and I will not shut this blog down, since he seeks to shut it down.<BR/><BR/>Did you hear me?<BR/><BR/>Did I just say that?<BR/><BR/>You better believe I did.<BR/><BR/>This blog will not shut down.<BR/><BR/>If I croak, it will be passed on.<BR/><BR/>Word to the Trustees: if we hire a pastor who verbally abuses the congregation and acts like a bully and promotes himself and his family and his marketing consultant: <BR/><BR/>SHUT HIM DOWN.<BR/><BR/>Pregnant Pause.<BR/><BR/>And the blog continues.FBC Jax Watchdoghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10740366031265491559noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-15527425388081606882009-02-20T13:44:00.000-05:002009-02-20T13:44:00.000-05:00Anon 12:52pm....By your logic just because I've pr...Anon 12:52pm....By your logic just because I've preached to countless people to believe the Gospel and the majority will not believe;;Am I to pack it up and stop preaching and let the Lord deal with them/it?..What other atrocities in our Churches such as people preying on children(Bob Gray and Darrell Gilyard)should I let the Lord handle them?..The Word of God is clear that anyone(Pastor included)who are abusing or disregarding Biblical truth are to be confronted period!!!!"ANYONE"!!MAC INCLUDED!!!it is writtenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01714871619485847739noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-26553812419579187102009-02-20T12:52:00.000-05:002009-02-20T12:52:00.000-05:00WD - I am anon 4:31 yesterdayI did not blame the ...WD - I am anon 4:31 yesterday<BR/><BR/>I did not blame the problems at the church on your blog. (Or at least I didn't intend for it to sound that way.) The problems you have expressed with Brunson, have nothing to do with this blog.<BR/><BR/>However, this blog, is perpetuating and continuing the degradation of the problem.<BR/><BR/>You have people that agree with you about Brunson, but are willing to proceed with him anyway. Apparantly, there are more that want to proceed with him than do not.<BR/><BR/>Let Them.<BR/><BR/>With the Lord, there is always the potential that Brunson, and Church will heal, and move forward. It appears that you do not want that.<BR/><BR/>If you were in the majority, I might be telling you different. <BR/><BR/>You pointed out wrong in the church.<BR/><BR/>It has been heard, mulled over, and prayed about.<BR/><BR/>Most want to proceed, "in spite of it."<BR/><BR/>LET THEM.<BR/><BR/>Your blog may not have been the problem at first, but it certainly is keeping any form of healing from taking place.<BR/><BR/>I love your church. It has been a refreshment to me over the years. I have no vested interest in it other than the PC, and yes I have my concerns over the PC.<BR/><BR/>Let the Lord work it out. It appears that all that can be said, has been said.<BR/><BR/>So it's time to stop saying.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-33315972523497330272009-02-20T12:27:00.001-05:002009-02-20T12:27:00.001-05:00Readers: Wow, someone is hard at work at FBC Jax t...Readers: Wow, someone is hard at work at FBC Jax today, visiting the Watchdog website and reading lots of pages. Must be preparing for the Monday meeting. Need to prepare to build the case! <BR/><BR/>Someone at the FBC Jax offices has been on the Watchdog site for the last 1 hour and 24 minutes, with 22page views.<BR/><BR/>Go get 'em! <BR/><BR/>Hey FBC Jax, maybe you can fly Maurilio down for the meeting Monday, he can be the expert witness to explain why the accused is the Watchdog! Or, better yet, since Mac has always wanted to be a lawyer, he could serve as the prosecuting attorney. He could present the case against the accused! Also, make sure the TV cameras are there so that a segment can be put in the "FBC Jax in 80 Seconds"FBC Jax Watchdoghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10740366031265491559noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-30452043198208316482009-02-20T12:27:00.000-05:002009-02-20T12:27:00.000-05:00I do not believe WD's actions warrant excommunicat...I do not believe WD's actions warrant excommunication from the Church. Please note the Church here does not refer to Fbc Jax, but the WHOLE Church. All WD has done is ask questions. Of course, he has parodied in jest. Compared to the mud slinging widely prevalent in SBC blogs, this blog is very MILD.<BR/><BR/><A HREF="http://kerussocharis.blogspot.com/2009/02/dr-jl-dagg-unable-to-teach-at-swbts.html" REL="nofollow">Dr. J.L. Dagg: Unable to Teach at SWBTS?</A><BR/><I>Dr. John Leadley (J.L.) Dagg (1794-1884) was the first Southern Baptist systematic theologian to be widely read and accepted by Southern Baptists as a whole. J.L. Dagg pastored the Fifth Baptist Church in Philadelphia for ten years (1825-1834) and would later serve as President of Mercer University in Penfield, Georgia (1844-1854). Mercer enjoyed tremendous growth and recognition during Dagg's presidency, eventually moving to its current location in Macon, Georgia.</I><BR/><BR/><A HREF="http://www.founders.org/library/dagg_vol2/ch9.html" REL="nofollow">MANUAL OF THEOLOGY SECOND PART A TREATISE ON CHURCH ORDER BY J. L. DAGG - CHAPTER IX DISCIPLINE</A><BR/><I>SECTION III.--EXCOMMUNICATION <BR/><BR/>The right to excommunicate belongs to the church, without any appeal. <BR/><BR/>This is clear from the words of Christ: "If he will not hear the church, let him be to thee as an heathen man and a publican." That it is not the province of a minister to excommunicate is clear from the instructions of Paul to the church at Corinth.(4) If ministers had a right to excommunicate, Paul, with his high apostolic authority, would have exercised the right himself, or would have directed to the clerical tribunal by which the right was to be exercised. But he instructed the church to do the work, and, therefore, to the church it properly belonged. The punishment was to be inflicted, not by the officers of the church, but by the whole church assembled together with the power and presence of Christ, and the act performed is called the punishment inflicted by many.(5) Some, because the word rendered "many" in the passage is in the comparative degree, have interpreted it by the majority, but whether this be its import or not, it seems to imply that the sentence was passed by popular vote. <BR/><BR/>The obligation to exclude unworthy persons from church-fellowship, is taught in various passages of Scripture. "Therefore put away from among yourselves that wicked person."(6) "A man that is a heretic, after the first and second admonition, reject."(7) "Now we command you, brethren, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that ye withdraw yourselves from every brother that walketh disorderly, and not after the tradition which he received of us."(8) "If any man obey not our word by this epistle, note that man, and have no company with him, that he may be ashamed."(9) "Now, I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences, contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them."(10) <BR/><BR/>In excommunication, regard should be had, not only to the glory of God, but to the good of the offender. This appears from the words of Paul: "For the destruction of the flesh, that the spirit may be saved."(11) The happy result of this excommunication, the only one which is particularly recorded in the history of the New Testament churches, is a strong encouragement to the exercise of faithful discipline. It has been remarked, that when discipline leaves a church, Christ goes with it.<BR/>1. 1 Pet. iii. 15.<BR/>2. Ps. lxvi. 16.<BR/>3. Col. iv. 17.<BR/>4. 1 Cor. v. 4, 5.<BR/>5. 2 Cor. ii. 6.<BR/>6. 1 Cor. v. 13.<BR/>7. Titus iii. 10.<BR/>8. 2 Thes. iii. 6.<BR/>9. 2 Thes. iii. 14.<BR/>10. Rom. xvi. 17.<BR/>11. 1 Cor. v. 5.</I><BR/><BR/><A HREF="http://www.founders.org/blog/2007/02/have-we-lost-gospel.html" REL="nofollow">Have we lost the Gospel?</A><BR/><I>1. In preaching<BR/>I took several hours last spring to listen to a number of SBC seminary chapel sermons. I heard lots about leadership, commitment, courage, faithfulness, sheep, shepherds, prayer and devotion, <B>I heard very little of Jesus Christ</B>. Often Christ was mentioned almost as an afterthought. I realize that this is far from a scientific study (but if you are interested in one that corroborates my concerns about Southern Baptist preaching, see Marsha Whitten's All is Forgiven) but the sermons were preached by well-known and highly respected Southern Baptist pastors. It is not unreasonable to expect that their sermons to seminarians would be carefully prepared. Assuming that to be the case, I came away from my exercise rather discouraged.<BR/><BR/>Here is an experiment that I recommend. Get a simple outline of the Gospel in your mind and listen to the sermons preached in your church (even if you are the preacher!) or other churches and try to determine to what degree the Gospel is the basis of them. Too often only some facts related to the Gospel are tacked on at the end of a message in order to justify some kind of altar call, but the Gospel itself is not foundational to it. If a sermon would play just as well in a Kingdom Hall or Jewish Synagogue as it would in a Baptist church, you can be sure it is void of the Gospel.<BR/><BR/>2. In Christian living<BR/>Very often the Gospel is viewed only as the threshhold into the Christian life by which one must enter the kingdom. Once in, however, the Gospel loses its importance. Where this happens in conservative churches moralism tends to gain preeminence and Christianity tends to be conceived in terms of rules and requirements. In moderate and liberal churches sentimentalism tends to reign and attitudes and actions are evaluated in terms of how "loving" they feel. Do not misunderstand--the Christian life includes both rules and especially love (rightly understood, of course), but the Christian life is based on neither. It is based on Jesus Christ--who He is, what He has done and why it matters. That is why we are called to live by faith. Faith in what? Or whom? The person and work of Christ. This is also why Paul could write, "For to me, to live is Christ." Christ was life for Paul because the Gospel had come to him in power. Read the ethical portions of the New Testament to see how the Apostles exhorted the early church to holy living. It wasn't by moralistic teaching. They teach the law on the basis of the Gospel. I see very little concern for the relationship between law and Gospel in Southern Baptist life today. The reason, I believe, is due to the removal of the Gospel from the heart of Christian living.<BR/><BR/>3. In our churches<BR/>The Gospel is the power of God to save all who believe. Churches are to be comprised of those who testify to having experienced this saving power. Of all the sectors of evangelicalism, Baptists most certainly should stand firm on this point. Yet, simply take an honest look at our churches--even good, "Bible-believing," "flagship" SBC churches. What do you find more often than not? Bloated church rolls with twice as many members as regular attenders. The overwhelming majority of our churches have neglected Gospel order, <B>taking cues more from the marketing world or corporate America or therapeutic professions</B> than from Scripture. John Dagg, the first writing theologian among Southern Baptists put this in his Treatise on Church Order, "When discipline leaves a church, Christ goes with it." If he is correct, then how many Christless churches might we have within our ranks? Read Revelation 2 and 3 to see that Jesus Himself warns of this possibility. If the candlestick has been removed from a local church then the Gospel has been taken with it.</I><BR/><BR/><A HREF="http://www.founders.org/blog/2009/02/what-will-we-be-in-sbc.html" REL="nofollow">What will we be in the SBC?</A><BR/><I>I invite both my Calvnist and non-Calvinist brothers and sisters to join me in encouraging and working for this kind of future in the SBC. Let's work together to come to deeper understandings and applications of the gospel. We may disagree at points, but such disagreements, if handled with gospel grace, can work to strengthen our grasp of divine truth rather than to further divide us. That is my hope, and that is my prayer.</I>Rameshhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09728392311602332613noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-29945292342091939522009-02-20T12:07:00.000-05:002009-02-20T12:07:00.000-05:00Anon 10:15am...As my wife would say.."You sound li...Anon 10:15am...As my wife would say.."You sound like You're 2 years old!...Well since you are positive that this person is WD and the proof will be presented "HARD" and "FAST...Please present to us bloggers the HARD and FAST facts on Dr.Dog's accusations concern Mac and his abuses!!it is writtenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01714871619485847739noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-63962834746313966302009-02-20T10:58:00.000-05:002009-02-20T10:58:00.000-05:00Matt 18 was not followed. Not one single person ev...Matt 18 was not followed. Not one single person ever visited the accused to take this matter up privately. Everything that followed is unscriptural including the two that came out to begin with. Read the book!!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-8783879017190801062009-02-20T10:56:00.000-05:002009-02-20T10:56:00.000-05:00Reconcilatory and Restoration: Bull. Maybe Brunso...Reconcilatory and Restoration: Bull. Maybe Brunson style. Looks more like revenge, "your going to pay, you evil Watchdog". How can you RESTORE someone to the fold of FBC if they arn't there anymore. No it's revenge pure and simple. And so what if the Watchdog is the accused. He just reports....we decide.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-76408258981793769562009-02-20T10:15:00.000-05:002009-02-20T10:15:00.000-05:00THAT IS WHY THE DEACONS MUST COME.They will hear H...THAT IS WHY THE DEACONS MUST COME.<BR/><BR/>They will hear HARD AND FAST PROOF that this man is the blogger that has purposely, maliciously attacked our church and our pastor for two years. <BR/><BR/>He is not the man you all thought him to be. He was a wolf in sheep's clothing, devouring the sheep while he shook our hands and smiled at us.<BR/><BR/>Perhaps they will also discuss how this man has harmed the church, the giving, the Pastor's peace of mind, etc. Its all part of the story.<BR/><BR/>Don't believe the sob story of the poor "accused" as he calls himself. He should call himself the "guilty one".<BR/><BR/>But don't believe me, just come to the deacons meeting and they will show you.<BR/><BR/>He will be exposed, and the deacons will KNOW, beyond a shadow of a doubt, that this man is the Watchdog, and he can be removed from the fellowship, and whatever other action necessary to help the healing to begin in our church so we can move forward after this ordeal is over.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-56645684601708485172009-02-20T10:07:00.000-05:002009-02-20T10:07:00.000-05:00What is happening now to the accused is what Bruns...What is happening now to the accused is what Brunson has been preparing his church for.<BR/><BR/>Here is Mac's process, that culminates in the vote Monday night with the deacons:<BR/><BR/>1. He changed the bylaws to create a discipline committee that reports to HIM. The bylaws specifically state the committee must come to HIM to determine if an offense rises to scriptural discipline. Therefore, a formal process is in place to go after the blogger and SHUT HIM DOWN.<BR/><BR/>2. He has preached to his congregation about church discipline, but in very vague terms, hit and miss. He has never seriously taught his church what church discipline is, he has only made references to it, many in a very threatening way as has been chronicled on this blog. Mac knows his sheep at FBC Jax know very little of scriptural church discipline, and he is using this to his advantage. He puts it in the bylaws so he can use it to discipline his critics, but he doesn't let the church know that its in the bylaws! And he doesn't either seriously teach on the subject. Mac knows that churches like the one here in Jax that disciplined the woman who was living with her boyfriend...Mac knows that they actually TEACH discipline to new members, and new mebers are TOLD CLEARLY about the process. But Mac doesn't have the guts to do that, but he still wants the church discipline card in his bag of tricks. One of the worst statements he made was the night in December when the accused was barred from church with the trespass warnings and was not allowed to see their daughter sing - he said that he is to deal harshly with people to "put the fear of God in YOU." That has been his goal. What is laughable, is that the process used against the accused has without a doubt NOT been in accordance with scripture. <BR/><BR/>3. On at least two occasions he has threatened the deacons - saying they should not be "worriers" else they are not "trusting Jesus", and if someone is a worrier then "don't put 'em on the deacon board." Then more recently he screamed at a deacon ordination service deacons are not to be "businessmen" in the church. Intimidation from the pastor over the deacons. You go with me, don't create any waves, else you're not worthy of your position as deacon.<BR/><BR/>It all culminates in this process... which I will blog about later today...the process where the accused will be voted on by the deacons to be removed from fellowship, and then the church will be asked to give their ascent to this. And as I am familiar with the plight of the accused members, here is the sickest part: these men, including John Blount who seems to be the gopher between the accused and the discipline committee, say that the purpose of the action this Monday night is for "reconciliation and restoration"....which, to me, is a damnable lie. John Blount should know, and presumably the committee knows, that this man and his wife and family joined another church February 1st by TRANSFER OF LETTER, and their new church requested the letters on February 4th. There is nothing to reconcile, there is nothing to restore, and the sin has been removed from the church already. There are some other facts shared with me that I will let the church family know about in this process, that show their attempts at this meeting and bringing it before the church are not at all reconcilatory, but are an attempt to either exact revenge on who they think is primarily responsible for this blog, and they wish to use this as an example to the congregation of what will happen to them if they decide to be a "Kingdom Killjoy" by expressing displeasure with the pastor's leadership.<BR/><BR/>Reconcilatory and Restorative? <BR/><BR/>Not even by a long shot.<BR/><BR/>If they go through with the Deacons meeting, and then the church gives their ascent on Wednesday, it will be a sad day in the life of FBC Jax.<BR/><BR/>More coming soon.FBC Jax Watchdoghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10740366031265491559noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-20982113346198597962009-02-20T10:01:00.000-05:002009-02-20T10:01:00.000-05:00WHATSOEVER THINGS ARE TRUEWHATSOEVER THINGS ARE HO...WHATSOEVER THINGS ARE TRUE<BR/>WHATSOEVER THINGS ARE HONEST<BR/>WHATSOEVER THINGS ARE JUST<BR/>WHATSOEVER THINGS ARE PURE:<BR/><BR/>Men on Feb 23, 2009 when the Deacons meet with King Mac Brunson, there better be some HARD EVIDENCE as to the true identity of Watchdog. None of this-<BR/>HE WROTE THIS SO WE ASSUME<BR/>HE DID THIS SO WE ASSUME<BR/>WE HEARD HIM SAY THIS SO WE ASSUME<BR/>WE BELIEVE THIS OF HIM SO WE ASSUME<BR/><BR/>No, there better be HARD EVIDENCE FROM THE BLOG SITE WITH BACK UP EVIDENCE IN HAND, SO ALL OF THE DEACONS CAN SEE AND FEEL. I mean LETTER HEAD DOCUMENTS, not typed out documentation on FBCJ paper.<BR/><BR/>If this is not done then what you will hear is Mac's word. King Saul's[Brunson's] word.<BR/><BR/>If the evidence is littered with fabrication, Mac should be HISTORY.<BR/><BR/>Deacons, look ye well. Be the men that you have always been and that the Lord expects you to be.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-53647323031568631052009-02-20T09:18:00.000-05:002009-02-20T09:18:00.000-05:00I wonder how much influence the deacon wives have ...I wonder how much influence the deacon wives have in this matter? I would not want to be a deacon now, in this church. I would be upset with the pastor for putting me in this position. But, this is when he will find out who is loyal to "him" and who isn't. This could be an additional reason for this action. This will cement the final control. Unless the deacons "swallow" their convictions and go with Mac they are history. The pressure from the supporter "yes men" must be huge. Or else they are going to control it all anyway. So guys better examine yourself and find out "what you are" man or mouse.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-39087369924697534472009-02-20T08:54:00.000-05:002009-02-20T08:54:00.000-05:00Conviction, and the courage which rightfully shoul...Conviction, and the courage which rightfully should accompany it--that's what FBCJ's deacons better have during their upcoming meeting. Otherwise, the appearance: either no biblical conviction OR too chicken to stand up for those convictions (of course, ones with both conviction and courage probably could stop the meeting from happening at all by doing the right thing today: go visit the pastor). Everyone will know which it was on February 25.<BR/><BR/>Everyone: How'd you like be one of those men?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-63573122206341995672009-02-20T08:46:00.000-05:002009-02-20T08:46:00.000-05:00Gail Saunders: God bless you, sister in Christ.Gail Saunders: God bless you, sister in Christ.Rameshhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09728392311602332613noreply@blogger.com