tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post318434955340374919..comments2024-03-23T22:54:58.661-04:00Comments on FBC Jax Watchdogs: Ed Young: "No Secrets" or "No Answers"?FBC Jax Watchdoghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10740366031265491559noreply@blogger.comBlogger155125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-74873071986331973432011-09-28T22:53:24.749-04:002011-09-28T22:53:24.749-04:00I didn't have time to go thru all of the posts...I didn't have time to go thru all of the posts here, but I'll throw in my 2 cents anyway. I haven't been going to the Grapevine church very long, but I've been following Young on tv, in the news, etc. Being a very skeptical church goer, I've gone to many churches and never returned because the pastor put me off. Pastor Young is undeniably different, in my humble opinion. He teaches in a way that really sticks with you. Compare him to Benny Hinn? Seriously? A charlatan through and through, and while some say they can't believe we listen to Ed Young, I can't believe how many listened to Benny Hinn, or the Bakers, or Jerry whats-his-name with the hooker/bookkeeper, whatever. Some of them ARE transparent. All these people turned me OFF of 'mega churches' and TBN. And notice, most of them are preaching a 'once saved always saved' dogma that also, btw, conveniently clears their own arses in heaven. You know, they're saved! Even if they fleece the flock! Pastor Young points out repeatedly, that teachers are held in higher accountability b/c of their responsibility to the church. If he's preaching it but not living it, then he already knows he has alot to answer for. All we can do as Believers is ask God's direction. If we tithe, we should be tithing from the heart - if we tithe to a mega church and it's wrong but our hearts are in the right place, then why would God hold it against us? We can't know all or see all. The church is growing, the programs and outreach are awesome, and yes, ALOT of money goes through that church - but notice, ALOT of money goes INTO the church and INTO the multitude of programs offered. If God wants it to grow, it will grow. Joel Osteen is another 'mega church' pastor I listen to and like. Maybe, just maybe, the churches are so blessed because they're doing the right thing. Like I said, TBN, the Bakers and Jerry-whatshisface turns me off of big churches and 'religious tv.' If I see or hear something at Fc that strikes an off-note with me, I'll be the first to dig deeper and see what's up. But for now, I LOVE going to church, I love learning more than I ever have, and my hard-to-handle son is thriving in the children's ministry. So what else can I say? So far, so very, very good.<br /><br /> AND....ex employees are the grumblers? While they may have valid reason to grumble, perhaps you need to ask, WHY are they ex employees? There's two sides to every story, and the ppl claiming they were 'close' to Young, yet refuse to divulge their names, are being just as sinister and secretive as the accused in their story. If they want Young to be transparent, they need to be as well. It's hard to face an accuser when they're hiding behind a cloud, like Elizabeth Taylor in her old White Diamonds commercials....LOLRednoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-52958272136765779752011-03-11T10:01:10.930-05:002011-03-11T10:01:10.930-05:00This comment has been removed by the author.Art By Andiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12881946760735952873noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-59780532602275427032011-03-11T10:00:31.997-05:002011-03-11T10:00:31.997-05:00The Bible teaches us to pray for one another and t...The Bible teaches us to pray for one another and that we are not to judge anyone..Instead of allowing the enemy to create doubt about what is going on financially why do we not focus on all the great things Ed and his family are doing to further ministry in the lives of others..for example the A21 Campaign that is supported by the Fellowship Church to reach young girls who have been sold into the sex slave industry..or the Haiti ophanage..that was dedicated after the earthquake destroyed so much of the area..<br />I attend Fellowship and will continue to. The world has always and will always be in opposition to the church. The fact that the man who is claiming to have all the insight/truth; is completely hiding his identity disguising every aspect of himself! shouldn't this beg the question: why are we listening to and believing his perspective..this whole interview includes phrases of honesty and truth but his identity is completely concealed..paradox..hmmm..what I want to ask is if this interview was declined by Ed..maybe there are reasons for it..maybe because no matter what Ed would respond with would be edited to please the writers of this story..open your eyes and see that we live in a world where everyone even this news crew accepts and agrees with God's standard..maybe that is the real message here..that God's word is the Truth and should be followed. no where during this whole interview did they question the standard of truth..no! they confirmed it!! So if anyone wants a reason to believe God's word..its here! in this video..your focus is in the wrong place..Christ is our Judge. Let God deal with our hearts and Ed's heart..stop complaining and be the change you want to see in the world..if all we do is gossip about one another how are we being an example to those who do not know the truth Galatians 5:13-15 (the Message version) 13-15It is absolutely clear that God has called you to a free life. Just make sure that you don't use this freedom as an excuse to do whatever you want to do and destroy your freedom. Rather, use your freedom to serve one another in love; that's how freedom grows. For everything we know about God's Word is summed up in a single sentence: Love others as you love yourself. That's an act of true freedom. If you bite and ravage each other, watch out—in no time at all you will be annihilating each other, and where will your precious freedom be then? <br /><br />Pray for one another even your leaders, your pastors, and the people God called to positions of authority.<br /><br />Grace and Peace be with all of us in Christ,<br /><br />Andie CollardArt By Andiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12881946760735952873noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-23595217914499452632011-01-12T17:45:31.449-05:002011-01-12T17:45:31.449-05:00I just read Ed's No Secrets blog and he will n...I just read Ed's No Secrets blog and he will not give credence to the reports in which he spends the entire blog giving credence to. He says he live his life in an aquarium. That is why his home is in the name of Palometa Revocable Trust" I wonder who can revoke the trust? Apparently not anyone that is giving him money because they would kill the fame of the game in his/their name!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-75607208905810504122010-09-26T11:09:07.141-04:002010-09-26T11:09:07.141-04:00Isn't this interesting? From my Sunday School...Isn't this interesting? From my Sunday School days, this style of living is more in line with Satanism than true Christianity. Wonder if this guy's followers will ever awaken from their hypnotic trance? Just look at his photo....good or evil?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-67542792777595007872010-07-19T11:44:25.742-04:002010-07-19T11:44:25.742-04:00Keep in mind that there is no biblical prohibition...Keep in mind that there is no biblical prohibition against being wealthy. It only becomes a problem when it becomes a driving force in ones life. "the LOVE OF money is the root of all evil". Money itself is neutral, a tool to be used for good or evil.<br /><br />There is no reason to think that Ed Young or any other pastor should be destitute or take a vow of poverty.<br />Nor should they have to reveal every part of their life; they have a right to privacy same as the rest of us.<br /><br />That said, churchgoers are the ones that pay for a church to exist and as such can reasonably expect an accounting of where there money goes.<br /><br />People who tithe expect this money to be used for good, not paying for a private jet and million dollar salaries. While not 'wrong' technically, it certainly doesnt look good for a pastor to rake in millions and be wealthier than 99% of his congregation.<br /><br />If I invent something on company time, the company owns it because they are PAYING ME to do a piece of work. The idea that Ed takes a church salary and still retains the Intellectual Property rights on his sermons is ridiculous to me. He is hired by a church to lead a congregation, not to 'own' the church and milk it for all it's worth.Mikenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-25979671637678605502010-05-06T10:48:48.476-04:002010-05-06T10:48:48.476-04:00I am a member of FC and i believe Fc can exist wit...I am a member of FC and i believe Fc can exist with out Ed Young. But then we would just be another forward moving church. I don't like what Pastor Young is doing with the money and members can not get pass his directors. Don't get me wrong the preaching is good but the atmosphere the community is the best. And that is why others stay in spite of our wayward pastor. Can the money go somewhere else?YES. While he and selected few go cross country other departments barely scrape by in material and supplies.dfwgirlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13726443047313176520noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-53601436496416426002010-04-29T20:59:18.862-04:002010-04-29T20:59:18.862-04:00Bottom Line- Without Ed Young- Fellowship Church d...Bottom Line- Without Ed Young- Fellowship Church does not exist. It is he who made it-it is he who people come to hear each week preach the word of God- because of his gift of communication. You know what- I don't care if he owns an entire airline company and has a 20 million dollar mansion. I am completely satisfied that my tithe is going to help missions, and deliver Gods word. Period. He deserves everything he has worked hard to achieve. Why is it that everyone else can earn triple digit incomes and it is perfectly fine- but the wolves come out when a Man of God is successful enough to earn a nice salary and enjoy the finer things in life. To the Watchdog: Get a Life! Find a bigger story that someone cares about!PennyHnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-23557201458447557582010-04-29T14:02:18.967-04:002010-04-29T14:02:18.967-04:00Dear Watchdog,
I'm a pastor of a church in Mi...Dear Watchdog,<br /><br />I'm a pastor of a church in Minnesota and have followed some of Ed's teaching on leadership for several years, and up to this moment, have truly enjoyed them. Sometime ago, Ed spoke on the importance of transparency with your flock. He spoke richly on credibility and how leaders must pave the way in the area of transparency if true life change is going to happen among those you lead. So, yes... I'm truly baffled by Ed's response, or lack thereof, to these important questions. As pastors, our ultimate purpose is not to conceal, but to reveal. Hence, when Ed is asked a simple question about the Jet, vacation home, etc., he should be honest and transparent. When a pastor suggests that "he or she doesn't have to give an answer to a question regarding ministry," this truly alarms me - and produces some huge red flags on credibility. You can't have it both ways. You can't tell people that transparency is extremely important as a leader, and yet fail to answer important financial questions. For me, the issues isn't so much about the amount of money Ed makes (his salary), but more so "why" Ed had chosen to keep so many things secret.<br /><br />I will be praying for my friend, Ed.Bradnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-64101477041485423242010-04-27T23:48:24.733-04:002010-04-27T23:48:24.733-04:00I've never heard of a church, other than Fello...I've never heard of a church, other than Fellowship, that charges you to become a member. Plus all Ed Young does during his so called sermons is ask for money. Greedy.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-90105784414520011472010-03-29T12:30:46.255-04:002010-03-29T12:30:46.255-04:00To the truly sad anonymous commenter above mine:
...To the truly sad anonymous commenter above mine:<br /><br />"Let not your heart be troubled."<br /><br />Rejoice that God has led you from iniquity. Put a smile upon your face, bow and pray, and smile. Give thanks, give thanks, give thanks. God, the Father, is worthy of all praise.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-57305790699185116612010-03-06T00:26:12.765-05:002010-03-06T00:26:12.765-05:00I have been at this church for 15 years. I have b...I have been at this church for 15 years. I have been an active participant and full tithe member. <br />I have prayed and pondered over this since this news surfaced. During last week's service, I was hoping to hear 'I am sorry. I messed up. Forgive me. I am human.' Those words did not come. I realized then I have no church home. I left the building and was truly sad.<br />Sad for all.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-88089286314074714652010-02-18T09:43:45.430-05:002010-02-18T09:43:45.430-05:00You think Ed Young will take a rebuke? Or jet on ...You think Ed Young will take a rebuke? Or jet on and on?<br /><br />Ridin’ from Rebuke<br />By Robert Winkler Burke<br />Of inthatdayteachings.com<br />Copyright 2/4/09<br />Isaiah 28: 1-3; Rev. 3:19<br /> <br />Ridin’ from rebuke,<br /> Ah’m so free!<br />Gallopin’ from rebuke,<br /> Ah’m on TV!<br /> <br />Ah’m a televangelist,<br /> Boy howdy,<br />A hat’n saddle cowboy,<br /> Not dowdy!<br /> <br />For ten, no twenty,<br /> Maybe fifty years,<br />Me and mah compadres,<br /> Been swilling beers.<br /> <br />The beers of intoxicating self-glory,<br /> The wine of ME and MINE!<br />Broadcastin’ strong drink delusions,<br /> Drunkards we all, divine!<br /> <br />Mah duster is religiosity,<br /> Pard, buy me a drink,<br />Hand over your money, son,<br /> Don’t you dare think.<br /> <br />Think what a bank heist,<br /> Mah game actually is,<br />Renegade outlaws runnin’,<br /> God’s broadcastin’ biz.<br /> <br />Ah have this here strong faith-hunch,<br /> Y’all’s seed cash pronto-quick becomes mine,<br />Believe mah faith mantras, NOW, son,<br /> God, not me and mine, will times it back fine!<br /> <br /><br />Ah LOVE this outlaw math,<br /> With every dollar mah faith is reborn,<br />Y’all’s coin increases belief,<br /> Of me and mine, that is, not your’n!<br /> <br />AH AM the believer’s leader!<br /> Ah ain’t never wrong,<br />Runnin’ from rebuke,<br /> God’s posse ‘tain’t strong.<br /> <br />Support mah babble-on, anti-chastisement,<br /> Non-rebuke charade,<br />YOU, Ah don’t know son, but me and mine,<br /> Shor’ ‘nuff, got it made!<br /> <br />And love, Lordy Lordy, heaven above,<br /> Jes’ why kin we never repent?<br />God ain’t rebukin’ whom He don’t love,<br /> So’s we ride on, God absent!<br /> <br />Ask me now, friend, why should God love us,<br /> We rebels of His way?<br />We take from His spiritual orphans and widows,<br /> Who give us their pay.<br /> <br />So’s we ride hard,<br /> From God’s missing rebuke,<br />Happy we be,<br /> With all we took!Robert Winkler Burkehttp://www.inthatdayteachings.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-85802788020201216432010-02-17T00:31:17.986-05:002010-02-17T00:31:17.986-05:00According to the FAA's website, the jet shown ...According to the <a href="http://www.faa.gov/about/office_org/headquarters_offices/ato/service_units/enroute/rvsm/documents/us_masps/us_masps_iga_a.xls" rel="nofollow">FAA's website</a>, the jet shown in the report (tail number N188FJ) is registered to “Fellowship Connection.” (Line 7338 as of today.)<br /><br /><a href="http://www.newbbc.accura.net/YoungLease.pdf" rel="nofollow">Here</a> is the lease agreement. Ed Young is referred to as “Mr. Edward Young, Jr. of Fellowship Church or Fellowship Connection” in section 12, page 6. (His name is Edwin, not Edward, and he's not really a "Jr.")<br /><br />From the WFAA article:<br /><br />“With Brewer’s help and a complex series of business creations and transactions, Young is now jetting around the country in a French-made Falcon 50 private jet; estimated value, $8.4 million.”<br /><br />“The Medill Company” (shown to be the lessee) is a Delaware statutory trust formed March 1, 2007. (You can look that up <a href="https://delecorp.delaware.gov/tin/GINameSearch.jsp" rel="nofollow">here</a>.) This is likely one of those “complex series of business creations and transactions” referenced in the report.<br /><br />Re the “2002″ reference, the jet is indeed owned by CEF 2002 Aircraft LLC, so that’s probably where Shipp got that. It was built in 1988.New BBC Open Forumhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18300115421477555376noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-20499580970530609582010-02-16T23:30:06.978-05:002010-02-16T23:30:06.978-05:00The owner of aircraft N188FJ that is pictured in t...The owner of aircraft N188FJ that is pictured in this blog is:<br />CEF 2002 Aircraft LLC<br />10 River View Dr.<br />Danbury, ConnAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-15976701382806819002010-02-16T22:52:40.107-05:002010-02-16T22:52:40.107-05:00We have been members at FC Grapevine for over 5 ye...We have been members at FC Grapevine for over 5 years. When this news story came out we were not at all suprised. When I first saw the story on WFAA I wanted to give Ed the benefit of the doubt and not really come to conclusions without hearing him out. Once I heard him speak to the congregation at FC my "Shitometer" skyrocketed. I can't believe some of these people who actually believe that he was open and honest during that speech. He used every PR tactic in the book (much like a politician) to down play the entire situation and come across as some poor victim to the media. WHAT A JOKE!!! I don't buy your rolling of the eyes, your tears, and your lame jokes (ie: my house isn't 10,000 sq. feet, well if you count our barn then maybe it's close --- HAHAHA). I thought if anything his message to the church to put out this enormous fire made him look even more pathetic and money hungry than before. We no longer consider ourselves members at FC and will never return. I want my church and my money to be focused on God and doing God's work, not on Ed Young and making him more successful and rich in this life.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-24662178163036931512010-02-16T18:12:07.570-05:002010-02-16T18:12:07.570-05:00Yawning Over Potemkin Zombieland
By Robert Winkler...Yawning Over Potemkin Zombieland<br />By Robert Winkler Burke<br />Of inthatdayteachings.com<br />Copyright 2/16/10<br /><br /><br />Well then, it’s agreed:<br /> There are just no prophets today,<br />Warning us about,<br /> Potemkin Zombieland. Hurray!<br /><br />Hurray! We’re okay,<br /> With hamster pipe walk-left-walk-right preachers!<br />They don’t mesmerize us,<br /> Not according to our liberal school teachers!<br /><br />No, the wing tanks are full,<br /> On the jets of our preacher and politico class!<br />We need discern nothing,<br /> Enlightened thought is just a worrisome morass!<br /><br />Even if one of us in thinking,<br /> Were to succeed,<br />Not one, but all need enlightening,<br /> To work. Agreed?<br /><br />So we’re ever so happy,<br /> With Potemkin Zombieland!<br />Leaders: rich, plebes: broke,<br /> Enslaved America is so grand!<br /><br />That’s what some preachers and politicians,<br /> Do, if not say, by their action!<br />Never mind their blinding us to all that,<br /> Our one job: Their satisfaction!<br /><br />Never mind Western Enlightenments’ tragic view,<br /> Check and verify against each man’s sin,<br />We embrace mystic, therapeutic tyranny,<br /> Our lives: dust, that masters live: golden!<br /><br />It’s the new all-for-one,<br /> And the new one-for-all,<br />Feudal lords over us,<br /> Come now, lords of cabal!<br /><br />Actually, we need to be,<br /> More primitive, more easy-to-herd,<br />More easy-to-direct gerbils!<br /> More nadir! Our zenith leaders’ word!<br /><br />We need faux James Bond leaders and preachers,<br /> Jetting to elite vacation spots!<br />With fake licenses to steal our monies and lives,<br /> No consequences, no harms, no blots!Roberthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12515762847297280521noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-68305492390812059612010-02-15T01:43:14.821-05:002010-02-15T01:43:14.821-05:00Ed fired dedicated and hardworking staffers once t...Ed fired dedicated and hardworking staffers once they expressed any concerns or disagreement with Ed's opinions and they were never heard from or discussed ever again.<br />That's the TRUTH!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-42471159150211113622010-02-14T01:21:42.415-05:002010-02-14T01:21:42.415-05:00Former Church Attender-
Lavish, Luxury more than ...Former Church Attender-<br /><br />Lavish, Luxury more than you know- it is a pathetic<br />he answers to no-one-<br />most all staff members have been let go-<br />it is known he personal looks at who tithes what & how much-<br />No elders that is a huge reason for his soon to be fall-<br /><br />Honestly<br />Humility<br />Intergrity<br /><br />would mean he would come forward and lay it out-I will bet he will not-<br /><br />PRIDE & EGO will take him down-Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-31337555021818278242010-02-13T23:40:33.653-05:002010-02-13T23:40:33.653-05:00ED YOUNG AND HIS HALF TRUTH:
That aircraft is own...ED YOUNG AND HIS HALF TRUTH:<br /><br />That aircraft is owned by Medill Corporation. It traces back to Ed Young as the principal through several other entities. The church is making the lease purchase payment on the aircraft. He only uses the lease word on stage and not purchase(evasive and deceitful). Ed paid $11.4 Million via a lease with a $1.00 Residual Buy Out for the aircraft at the end of the lease. He then wrapped the transaction in a “shell game” lease company that he owns set up as a Delaware Trust based in Texas. At the end of the lease, the congregation just bought Ed a jet. The only problem is N188FJ is a 1988 Model Falcon 50 that is now worth no more than 4.5 Million(Not the $8.4 Million the news reported. The news reported it as a 2002 Model and that is incorrect. Medill Corporation makes the payment to GE Capital each month. Is this the best use of the Lord’s money? The pilots that work for Brad Harris at Dallas Jet International(The management company for the jet based at Alliance Airport) that crew the aircraft have always known the aircraft is a secret. Alliance is highly secure and private compared to the other airports in this part of North Texas. Just call Brad Harris to confirm. He will give you the same half truth as Ed did on stage on who owns the aircraft. It is no secret that it is a secret and always has been. Here is the registration straight from the FAA Records:<br /><br />Record 1 of 1 found<br /><br />AIRCRAFT IDENTIFICATION / STATUS<br /><br />Make: FALCON Year of Delivery: 1989 Airport: AFW – KAFW – Ft. Worth Alliance Airport<br />Ft. Worth – TX – United States<br />Model: 50 Year of Manufacture: 1988 Serial Number: 50-188 Alt Ser#:<br />Registration Number: N188FJ Prev Reg#: XA-ALA Status: Not for Sale Purchase Date: 4/4/2001<br />Life Cycle: In Operation Previously Owned: Yes Ownership Type: Wholly Owned<br />Currently On Lease Last Change: 2/3/2009<br /><br />COMPANY/CONTACT<br />Company Contact<br />Owner/Lessor – General Electric Capital Corporation<br />DBA GE Corporate Aircraft Finance<br />10 Riverview Drive<br />Danbury, CT 06810 United States<br />http://www.gecorporateaircraft.com<br />Office: 203-749-6000<br />Mr. Scott F. Forsberg<br />Manager, Aircraft Remarketing<br />scott.forsberg@ge.com<br />Office: 203-749-6640<br /><br />Lessee – Medill Company/ Ed Young<br />TX United States<br />Ms. Ann R. Duckart<br />Vice President Tracy M Lamb Vice President<br /><br />Aircraft Management Company – Dallas Jet International, LP<br />5605 N. MacArthur Blvd. Suite 640<br />Irving, TX 75038 United States<br />info@dallasjet.com<br />http://www.dallasjet.com<br />Office: 972-812-7525<br />Fax: 972-812-7527<br />Mr. Brad Harris<br />President & CEO<br />bharris@dallasjet.com<br />Office: 972-812-7525<br />Fax: 817-853-5188<br /><br />Registered as Owner – CEF 2002 Aircraft, LLC<br />United States<br />Hutson T. W<br />President<br />Hangar: 503-329-5901<br /><br />This aircraft will be owned by ED YOUNG’S “SHELL” company, Medill for $1.00 at the end of the lease. ALL COMPLIMENTS OF THE FELLOWSHIP CHURCH. The aircraft costs the church over $1,000,000.00 per year currently with insurance, pilots, hangar, and repairs. Hmmm, now that’s not exactly as Ed put it on stage. There is no transparency at Fellowship because Ed owns the church and he won’t allow it. That is specifically against the way the New Testament insists that a church should be structured. It should not be owned by the Pastor. A church is owned by the membership but NOT AT ED YOUNG’S CHURCH. IT IS ALL SETUP WRONG AND IT IS FOR PROFIT BUSINESS THAT HE HAS CONVINCED HIMSELF IS SET UP CORRECTLY. LET ME KNOW HOW THAT IS WORKING FOR FELLOWSHIP CHURCH. WHAT A TURN OFF FOR SOMEONE LOOKING TO FIND CHRIST. ALL OVER A STUPID AIRPLANE AND A BIG HOUSE. ED YOU SHOULD BE ASHAMED!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-86022608703940841992010-02-12T09:50:54.104-05:002010-02-12T09:50:54.104-05:00Ed Young is no different than any other tv preache...Ed Young is no different than any other tv preacher who is out to rob the pockets of people who will listen to him. I would have more respect if he were honest and tell people."hey I'm Ed Young and I'm here to screw you and take your money". Of course if people are dumb enough to give it to him then I can't feel too much sympathy for them. People have been referred to as sheep in the Bible and sheep are about the dumbest animals on earth. They will follow you anywhere. Look at Jim Jones. So maybe I'll go on tv, give speaches that give people warm fuzzy feelings and maybe one day I'll be flying around in my private jetUnknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15391340055219380638noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-48535535927655758192010-02-12T09:45:35.308-05:002010-02-12T09:45:35.308-05:00Ed Young gives the same BS crap as all the rest of...Ed Young gives the same BS crap as all the rest of them do. I would respect him a lot more if he would just be honest and say "hey people. I'm here to screw you and take your money". But if those followers of his are stupid enough to fall for it then I don't feel sorrow for their losses. Look at Jim Jones. Oh well, maybe I should go on tv and give little speaches that give people that warm fuzzy feeling and maybe I can fly around in muy own jet some dayUnknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15391340055219380638noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-7910016085657555662010-02-09T16:03:31.308-05:002010-02-09T16:03:31.308-05:00Ed has his damage control crew out making the roun...Ed has his damage control crew out making the rounds on blogs. The talking points are very similar as to what we are reading here:<br /><br />1. Who can trust the media?<br />2. There are two sides to every story<br />3. All the lost people Ed has led to Christ<br />4. You have your facts wrong (it is not a 10,000 sq ft home but a 7000 sq ft home)<br />5. He is a target because he is so successful.<br /><br />Word on the street is that Ed was already suffering from declining "tithes" and is afraid. He is calling in favors from other "respected leaders" that he has put on stage or knows.<br /><br />Gee, maybe TD Jakes will put in a good word for him while he denies the Trinity.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-92126669536665535892010-02-09T15:36:39.116-05:002010-02-09T15:36:39.116-05:00"Sometimes success makes you a target for tho..."Sometimes success makes you a target for those less successful, which is what I suspect is going on with this whole story."<br /><br />I am ashamed to say I have used this one myself to excuse lots of sin, ignore the Word and insult those who question. <br /><br /> It is the old "you are just jealous so you are the real sinner". God is blessing me more so you are just jealous.<br /><br />I think we are all going to be shocked at what is important in God's economy on that big day that is coming. Soon, I hope.<br /><br />MattAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-42954927067304422042010-02-09T14:51:12.332-05:002010-02-09T14:51:12.332-05:00If Ed Young was traveling for church business, whi...If Ed Young was traveling for church business, which he said he was, then I would expect that the church is held accountable for payment and should be on the lease. He is an amazing speaker and openly travels all over the world, mostly to large pastoral conventions and leadership groups. He also travels to several mission sites in Brazil and other places, as well as our campus in Florida. His speaking schedule is usually posted on his website.<br /><br />I have no idea what that might cost, or even should cost, and I don't care. Not because I don't care about how our finances are spent, but because I don't care what it costs for him to impact as many people as he can for Christ. If we can do it, and he's willing, we should.<br /><br />In God's economy, the amount doesn' matter. What matters is what's in the heart. Since only God knows what's in a person's heart, we are left to judge based on the results we can see. What I've seen is hundreds of pastors testifying to the impact Ed's speaking engagements have had on their minitries, mostly as I interact with them at our C3 conference. If that costs 10's of thousands of dollars, and we have it, I'm OK with it being spent.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com