tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post4510175096989340859..comments2024-03-23T22:54:58.661-04:00Comments on FBC Jax Watchdogs: Ed Young Videos Back Up: Lawyers Claim WD Videos "Infringe Upon The Church's Ability to Market the Work"FBC Jax Watchdoghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10740366031265491559noreply@blogger.comBlogger100125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-76067825992178017602011-03-23T11:58:53.020-04:002011-03-23T11:58:53.020-04:00Sorry Dee, I though you were defending Ed. My apol...Sorry Dee, I though you were defending Ed. My apologies.<br /><br />I assume one of the reasons he chose Miami is so that he could go fishing a lot.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-67895169174536976522011-03-22T14:28:35.185-04:002011-03-22T14:28:35.185-04:00FWIW, I'm not a fan of Ed's. I have a very...FWIW, I'm not a fan of Ed's. I have a very close connection to one of the guys on his advisory/oversight team and know him to be nothing but a fanboy of Ed. <br /><br />If people really wanted to dig up dirt on Ed they'd do a little investigating on his Miami satellite church. Let's just say there are some fishy reasons he chose Miami.Dee Lauderdalehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14723069502535620781noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-9093566510970475732011-03-22T10:43:07.601-04:002011-03-22T10:43:07.601-04:00Dee, Ed Young Jr. HAS refused Time & Time agai...Dee, Ed Young Jr. HAS refused Time & Time again to meet with people who have questions regarding his very luxurious lifestyle. <br /><br />He flat out REFUSES to answer ANY question. <br /><br />His comments on his own blog are screened and if it's negative he will not post it. <br /><br />On his own Youtube page ALL the comments are turned off.<br /><br />Various blogs have tried to contact him to no avail. <br /><br />Ed Young Jr. will not meet with anyone regarding this matter. <br /><br />People have tried talking to him face to face but he will have none of it. <br /><br />Instead he hides behind his Lawyers and PR team. <br /><br />He didn't even offer an apology to his Congregation when this whole fiasco was going on.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-89586917529892031692011-03-21T14:30:03.186-04:002011-03-21T14:30:03.186-04:00My take is that Ed Young turns more people away fr...My take is that Ed Young turns more people away from the gospel (due to his lifestyle and un-Biblical tithing mandates) than he does winning people to Christ. It's the same ole-same ole, health-wealth gospel. <br />Once you dare to pull back the curtains, it is not a pretty sight.Marknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-63169434143148430552011-03-21T14:00:33.008-04:002011-03-21T14:00:33.008-04:00Having actually been a pastor, I know that critics...Having actually been a pastor, I know that critics come with the territory. The only thing I ever asked was people talk to me face to face. I can give you a long list of names of men and women that did just that. We met behind closed doors and talked it out. Sometimes I was right, sometimes I was wrong but at all times we loved each other throughout. <br /><br />I've also had verified evidence of what people said about me behind my back and without exception each of these people were weak and spineless and the vast majority of the congregation knew it. <br /><br />I don't know Mac but I do know a few other pastors whose names are drug through the mud on this site on a regular basis. Are they perfect? My goodness, not by a long shot. But for the love, be man or woman enough to at least attempt to tell them what you think of them to their faces. that's what scripture requires of you, if they refuse then that's on them.<br /><br />And before you play the "but they'll be mean to me and do all sorts of evil to me...." card, there is nothing in Scripture to support cowardice. Men and women of faith have been dying for principles for thousands of years. <br /><br />Lastly, don't try to turn this back on Mac, me or any other pastor's behaviors. YOU are responsbile and will give account for YOU not anyone else. That thought alone should be enough to keep anybody busy.<br /><br />Now let the feeding frenzy begin. And as always I stand ready to discuss with anybody who wants to contact me. Email dee.lauderdale@gmail.com or my website, deelauderdale.com.<br /><br />PeaceDee Lauderdalehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14723069502535620781noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-68966962164805440962011-03-17T20:17:55.988-04:002011-03-17T20:17:55.988-04:00Oh My, Oh My
Pastor Calls Flock Devils, Demons......Oh My, Oh My<br /><br />Pastor Calls Flock Devils, Demons....<br />when they refused to give the pastor their tax refunds; he refused to give them their Communion. <br /><br />http://www.myfoxhouston.com/dpp/news/local/110315-pastor-calls-flock-devils-demonsAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-41260092551469593912011-03-17T19:42:11.105-04:002011-03-17T19:42:11.105-04:00My thought is if you can't stand the heat get ...My thought is if you can't stand the heat get out of the ministry. A lot of pastors (2,000 Baptist) quit every single year. They realize that they were never called just self appointed and needed to find themselves. Tom is doing a great service showing whats going on in the real world sort of like Glen Beck.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-30891823744903278212011-03-17T17:36:15.339-04:002011-03-17T17:36:15.339-04:00Dee, you are "projecting". Pastors do th...Dee, you are "projecting". Pastors do this all the time. We are used to it even though it is getting old.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-61224393589726236192011-03-17T17:35:04.085-04:002011-03-17T17:35:04.085-04:00Pastor Dee is back!
A commenter over at pastors....Pastor Dee is back!<br /><br /><br />A commenter over at pastors.com on the "transitioning the church" thread. Or, in better terms: How to get rid of the dissenters in MY church.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-24665837358694067472011-03-17T09:41:43.072-04:002011-03-17T09:41:43.072-04:00Dee - I'll say it again. You and others are wr...Dee - I'll say it again. You and others are wrong if you think I'm feeling sorry for myself, or viewing myself as "persevering through persecution", a martry of some sort. No way. <br /><br />Maybe the reason you and others want to project this on to me, is because you pastors view yourselves in that way. You believe your pastor friends who are subject to criticism, questions, and critiques of their words, are being hindered by the work of the devil himself. To be a pastor criticized often on the Internet is to suffer as a martyr.<br /><br />But glad to see you're one of the faithful readers all these years.FBC Jax Watchdoghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10740366031265491559noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-68567433802319348882011-03-17T09:30:49.774-04:002011-03-17T09:30:49.774-04:00"I don't view myself as a martry everytim..."I don't view myself as a martry everytime someone criticizes me"<br /><br />Have you ever actually read your own stuff Watchdog? This is your stock-in-trade, poor pitiful me, I've been attacked the by the rich and powerful, I'm just a humble saint calling out the sins of others. BTW, can you give me a verse about that?<br /><br />Sheesh. Pot meet kettle.<br /><br />On another topic, this anonymous commenting stuff is additictive. I see why so many like doing it, say whatever you want without fear of anybody challenging you. However, my view of Scripture won't allow me to continue. This is a blast from the past, Dee Lauderdale.Dee Lauderdalehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14723069502535620781noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-80336776973711525632011-03-17T09:20:54.251-04:002011-03-17T09:20:54.251-04:00TP: this is what pastors do. They can take on thei...TP: this is what pastors do. They can take on their critics from the pulpit, knowing their faithful followers will "handle it". This is what Thom Rainer was saying, that lay people need to rise up and squelch the critics. Not that the pastor should be more transparent, but that critics should be taken care of. <br /><br />In the age of the new emergent church where the pastor truly is the CEO and the annointed one - and in some cases the "owner" of the church - we will see more and more of this.FBC Jax Watchdoghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10740366031265491559noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-54531417586481837522011-03-17T09:11:46.041-04:002011-03-17T09:11:46.041-04:00I have to admit I am very slow. I finally figured ...I have to admit I am very slow. I finally figured out why Mac Brunson was railing against bloggers for almost a year before Watchdog was outed. Mac was not thin-skinned as I thought before, but more conniving in whipping up the sentiments of the pew sitters against Watchdog.Rameshhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09728392311602332613noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-38815609032682298772011-03-17T02:52:06.736-04:002011-03-17T02:52:06.736-04:00Recalcitrants unite!Recalcitrants unite!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-75455594956227438972011-03-17T00:41:54.169-04:002011-03-17T00:41:54.169-04:00And Butch - I will gladly wear your label of "...And Butch - I will gladly wear your label of "recalcitrant", it is a term I have come to cherish, ever since I first heard Paige Patterson use it to describe people at FBC Jax that took issue with Brunson's leadership.<br /><br />A recalcitrant is one who stubbornley refuses to submit to authority and control. And when that authority and control is corrupt, or abusive, or illigitimate, or outside of its bounds, then one should take the position of being a recalcitrant. <br /><br />But I do reject your label of "unbeliever", as I am a believer. <br /><br />Deal with that, too, friend.FBC Jax Watchdoghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10740366031265491559noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-6085495205487837032011-03-17T00:35:46.235-04:002011-03-17T00:35:46.235-04:00Butcher - agreed. No persevering here. Just prospe...Butcher - agreed. No persevering here. Just prospering, enjoying and loving totally life, and blogging about issues in the modern mega church that need to be exposed. I am loving it, and happy as can be. <br /><br />You see, unlike mega church pastors, I don't view myself as a martry everytime someone criticizes me. I don't try to tell people who criticize me that they are going against God. I don't ignore anonymous criticism, I take it and read it and think about it. <br /><br />Unlike mega church pastors I don't demand Christians donate 10% of their income to my cause else they are going to suffer the wrath of God.<br /><br />So please, Butcher, don't "shudder". I am fine.<br /><br />Deal with it.<br /><br />Blessings to you.FBC Jax Watchdoghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10740366031265491559noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-64432174588181736222011-03-17T00:25:51.421-04:002011-03-17T00:25:51.421-04:00I shutter at the idea that Tom is persevering.
T...I shutter at the idea that Tom is persevering. <br /><br />Tom, you are not persevering through anything.<br />It's naive to think your persevering through some sort of persecution for your actions through this blog.<br />Shame on you, on all of you, even the pastors who blog here.<br />Stay focused on your ministry. Don't associate yourselves with these recalcitrant nonbelievers.<br /><br />Back to Ed Young.<br /><br />He is not a preacher. He is an inspirational speaker. His church is not a church. He is an abuser of the weak minded. He is a 13 year old boy in a 40 year olds body.<br /><br />It is sinful to pursue legal action over a matter such as copyright infringement, etc. What a disgrace.<br />And what a waste of people's money and time making those stupid videos.<br /><br />No one wants to see a white man pretend to be a black rapper. Ugh. It puts a bad taste in my mouth.<br /><br />Speaking of taste, we need to do a better job of distinguishing between kool aid and holy water.The Butcher Priestnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-82342677929485403222011-03-16T21:33:42.556-04:002011-03-16T21:33:42.556-04:00Sorry, should be "I totally support..."Sorry, should be "I totally support..."Jacknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-29689128329704595222011-03-16T21:32:07.026-04:002011-03-16T21:32:07.026-04:00ANON 8:12...you responded to my comment:
you want...ANON 8:12...you responded to my comment:<br /><br />you want us to pray to soften our hearts toward false doctrine, perverting the Gospel for material gain, making merchanise of people, greed and puffed up egos?<br /><br />No, we must call them out. But then, you work for them. Did you sign the BFM 2000? If you are a man, I hope your wife never teaches any men anything or you could get fired. Wait, I think it is ok if they are third world native men.<br /><br />I obviously wasn't clear...I'm in your camp! I completely agree with what you are saying. I wish there was a way I could explain further, but don't want to get into it on a public blog. But I'm totally support what WD is doing!jacknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-32793207483484176022011-03-16T21:03:52.469-04:002011-03-16T21:03:52.469-04:00An excellent and apt sermon for this post and comm...An excellent and apt sermon for this post and comments ...<br /><br /><a href="http://www.emmanuelenid.org/Old%20Site/sermons/Romans/Romans123.htm" rel="nofollow">Emmanuel - Enid [Wade Burleson] 2002 - 2004 > Series on "Romans: The Integrity of God" > #123. Those Who Divide Cannot Hide (Romans 16:17-18)</a>Rameshhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09728392311602332613noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-75891014183924663682011-03-16T20:56:41.053-04:002011-03-16T20:56:41.053-04:00Marketing the Church is Biblical!
Jesus said &quo...Marketing the Church is Biblical!<br /><br />Jesus said "Go into the Hedges and Higways"....that is Buzz Marketing!<br /><br />The Rainbow is one of the greatest advertising pieces in history!<br /><br />Paul said "I become all things to all people in order that they may come to Christ"...in other words....<br /><br />Paul was saying..."haze, strobe lights, loud music, creating an atmosphere like a "Club"...will win the Lost!<br /><br />That's Bible!!!<br /><br />Ed's sermon series are amazing...<br /><br />Pardon me..I'm prospering<br />Twilight<br />Bucket List<br />Sex-The Real Deal<br />All Jacked Up<br />Not Dead Iguanas<br />The Real F-Word<br /><br />This stuff is cool...None of that preaching thru Leviticus...<br /><br />My fav is "Crazy Pill"<br /><br />Looks like some of the readers here need to order that!!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-53958193531776410092011-03-16T20:12:50.418-04:002011-03-16T20:12:50.418-04:00PLEASE, everyone reading this blog and my humble, ...PLEASE, everyone reading this blog and my humble, jumbled comment, stop right now and pray for His grace and love to soften all of our hearts. For the sake of the church in the U.S. as well as those who have yet to have a chance to hear the Good News.<br /><br />March 16, 2011 9:41 AM<br /><br />you want us to pray to soften our hearts toward false doctrine, perverting the Gospel for material gain, making merchanise of people, greed and puffed up egos?<br /><br />No, we must call them out. But then, you work for them. Did you sign the BFM 2000? If you are a man, I hope your wife never teaches any men anything or you could get fired. Wait, I think it is ok if they are third world native men.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-63649836678877269992011-03-16T20:07:34.790-04:002011-03-16T20:07:34.790-04:00The "unity" drivel is typical from seeke...The "unity" drivel is typical from seeker megas. I heard it all the time. It is meant to keep down any dissent. You are called a "hater" or divisive, if you dare question the great leader. <br /><br />They have no clue what scritpure teaches about what Jesus prayed: Spiritual Unity. <br /><br />That is because they have blind guides who love their position, place and material comforts more than Christ.<br /><br />If they preached the full Gospel, the gig would be over.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-13804442858006406932011-03-16T20:05:12.108-04:002011-03-16T20:05:12.108-04:00Tom,
You're doing the right thing in perseve...Tom,<br /> You're doing the right thing in persevering. I have to believe that when more people see these "pastors" for what they really are, then the people will leave.<br /><br /> KarenM in NCAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-58594489624658245322011-03-16T20:05:07.858-04:002011-03-16T20:05:07.858-04:00The last refuge of scoundrels is to name call thos...The last refuge of scoundrels is to name call those who point out evil charlatans as "haters".<br /><br />Never mind the hate Young shows for his lemmings by pillaging them for his own luxury and comfort in the Name of Christ.<br /><br />Again, where is the scipture about the Villa Paul bought with tithe dollars outside Laodicea for being so successful in ministry? After all, he deserved it because he brought so many to Christ.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com