tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post4626563883719020536..comments2024-03-23T22:54:58.661-04:00Comments on FBC Jax Watchdogs: Caner Whopper: My Madrassa Was in Beirut...By That Did He Mean "Beirut Restaurant" in Toledo?FBC Jax Watchdoghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10740366031265491559noreply@blogger.comBlogger53125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-86348532922548000112010-07-30T15:59:42.905-04:002010-07-30T15:59:42.905-04:00THANKS AGAIN THY PEACE!
The links posted is like ...THANKS AGAIN THY PEACE!<br /><br />The links posted is like reading a comedy book!<br /><br />These men are adamant that people are not doing correct research on the subject. <br /><br />The only thing they are doing is throwing their own names into the Caner gutter pit of lies.<br /><br />Interesting posting!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-82331203959404670472010-07-30T15:08:04.192-04:002010-07-30T15:08:04.192-04:00Alpha & Omega Ministries Apologetics Blog [Jam...<a href="http://www.aomin.org/aoblog/index.php?itemid=4100" rel="nofollow">Alpha & Omega Ministries Apologetics Blog [James White] > Tim Guthrie and False Witness</a>Rameshhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09728392311602332613noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-2136925651466357442010-07-30T13:59:36.552-04:002010-07-30T13:59:36.552-04:00Aftereffects of James White Dividing Line program ...Aftereffects of James White Dividing Line program ...<br /><br /><a href="http://turretinfan.blogspot.com/2010/07/tim-guthrie-highly-offended-at-being.html" rel="nofollow">Thoughts of Francis Turretin > Tim Guthrie - Highly Offended at Being Wrongly Linked to Ergun Caner</a><br /><br /><a href="http://timguthrie.blogspot.com/2010/07/james-white-bears-false-witness.html" rel="nofollow">Winning Truth w/Tim Guthrie > James White Bears False Witness</a>Rameshhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09728392311602332613noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-27633272843922395142010-07-30T11:27:59.975-04:002010-07-30T11:27:59.975-04:00Thy Peace @ 9:28 AM July 30th
THANK YOU so much f...Thy Peace @ 9:28 AM July 30th<br /><br />THANK YOU so much for providing this link - I would hope that each and everyone who reads this blog takes the time to listen to it. <br /><br />Liberty is very foolish to have Caner out representing their University - all this does is provide listeners to hear his desperation - he's one smooth communicator that Liberty is allowing to influence our young adults. Shameful!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-5737732777693354042010-07-30T09:28:12.612-04:002010-07-30T09:28:12.612-04:00Yes, ALL the commentators in this blog are "h...Yes, ALL the commentators in this blog are "haters", "hiders", "poisoners in the church", "non Christians (we are not Christians according to Ergun Caner)" and so on ... according to Ergun Caner from a speech/sermon in May 2010. Please listen to the <a href="http://www.aomin.org/podcasts/20100729.mp3" rel="nofollow">Dividing Line by James White</a>.Rameshhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09728392311602332613noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-6404658396014975152010-07-29T16:54:36.539-04:002010-07-29T16:54:36.539-04:00Watchdog, my apologies. I must have misread Mr. G...Watchdog, my apologies. I must have misread Mr. Guthrie. I understood him to say that "the military" was going to do something to add to the "frying" of Caner. I am aware that Mr. Caner addressed some Marines of MAG 29, New River Air Station, North Carolina on the topic of Jihad back in April of 2005. It was part of their required monthly Professional Military Education. There were probably two or three hundred Marines present in the base theater for that class arranged by the unit chaplain. Please tell me we are not still kicking around that five-year old piece of history. If that is the event on the video, be aware that his style of racist and religious humor was not well received by many of those "War Eagles." They possessed way too much integrity to be sucked into his side-show. I am reasonably sure he has made similar appearances to other military units. Perhaps HQMC has given instruction that he is no longer welcome to give similar lectures on any Marine base. Could that be Tim's concern? His conjecture still sounds to me like a rumor from an active, uninformed imagination.Jimnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-14091417775153350452010-07-29T15:58:15.996-04:002010-07-29T15:58:15.996-04:00TG and EC on the same board. There are connection...TG and EC on the same board. There are connections everywhere. This might explain some of TG's enthusiasm for his personal attacks. He may perceive that he is supporting his friend and fellow board member. This seems to make some sense out of the nonsense.<br /><br />If you get enough information, it could all make sense. People do strange things in support of their friends--like strap bombs to themselves.Bennett Willishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01200940136846753450noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-40003975834830507292010-07-29T12:00:00.997-04:002010-07-29T12:00:00.997-04:00It is easy for me to imagine innocent people takin...It is easy for me to imagine innocent people taking the word of their pastor who invited Caner. It is very different to imagine our military doing the same. I predict this will be a very big story if it is based in fact.<br /><br />July 29, 2010 9:48 AM<br /><br />And one the Obama White House will LOVE to use for their own purposes<br /><br />Gee Thanks, Caner, for giving them the ammunition.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-72186504248355533612010-07-29T11:32:40.450-04:002010-07-29T11:32:40.450-04:00Dee: I would encourage you to look at this comment...Dee: I would encourage you to look at <a href="http://fbcjaxwatchdog.blogspot.com/2010/04/caners-apology-i-have-never.html?showComment=1270928070482#c3207691699181288810" rel="nofollow">this comment</a>. It shows Ergun Caner giving speeches on Jihadism as an expert.Rameshhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09728392311602332613noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-69432561905679054952010-07-29T11:17:48.204-04:002010-07-29T11:17:48.204-04:00And if you want to know why I say that, he's m...And if you want to know why I say that, he's made not only a fool of Christians but also the US Military.<br />Jihad.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-54305947416000238952010-07-29T11:15:13.012-04:002010-07-29T11:15:13.012-04:00This is truly getting worse and worse. I would no...This is truly getting worse and worse. I would not in any way be surprised if there are more revelations to come. I have been suspicious from the beginning that there's more to this story than meets the eye.<br />I'll say it one more time...are we SURE this guy is not still a muslim?<br />In infiltration?<br />I don't care what anybody says, somebody needs to be asking this question.<br />Sorry, Caner, if I'm wrong. But man, you seriously brought this on yourself and you know it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-50056378900431099342010-07-29T09:48:53.874-04:002010-07-29T09:48:53.874-04:00I am deeply disturbed by this potential new revela...I am deeply disturbed by this potential new revelation that caner addresses our military troops on jihad. If this is true, then someone in the government did not do their job and vet this guy.<br /><br />To think that a liar had access to the troops and fed them information that was not based in fact gives me pause.This may be a bigger story than a lying Baptist seminary president.<br /><br />It is easy for me to imagine innocent people taking the word of their pastor who invited Caner. It is very different to imagine our military doing the same. I predict this will be a very big story if it is based in fact.deenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-73833432960013703982010-07-29T09:40:23.212-04:002010-07-29T09:40:23.212-04:00WOW! A training speech to the troops. Makes you wo...WOW! A training speech to the troops. Makes you wonder if the Govt., checks anyone out anymore.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-67325140053453025842010-07-29T02:11:43.856-04:002010-07-29T02:11:43.856-04:00Now we know to warn folks not to give money to Wat...Now we know to warn folks not to give money to Watchman Fellowship. They do not have honest board members. <br /><br />Besides, their behavior is cultish and they need to be "watched"Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-21712285231680455932010-07-29T00:48:03.936-04:002010-07-29T00:48:03.936-04:00Well, do note that Tim G. and Ergun Caner have min...Well, do note that Tim G. and Ergun Caner have <a href="http://www.watchman.org/index.cfm?fuseaction=home.staff" rel="nofollow">ministry connection</a>.<br /><br />This does not make Tim right or wrong. It's just an observation.Marknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-11255300181703444042010-07-29T00:28:41.723-04:002010-07-29T00:28:41.723-04:00Jim - it is no secret, and it is no rumor. It is f...Jim - it is no secret, and it is no rumor. It is fact. A blogger has the video tape of Caner's training or speech he gave to a certain unit of our U.S. Marines on Jihad.<br /><br />He plans on making it available soon.<br /><br />And it will take another round of defenses and attacks from Caner's defenders like Guthrie and Stormin Norman Geisler to explain even more lies coming from Caner, and this time its more serious: he delivered them to our troops. <br /><br />Guthrie likely got wind of it from Caner's camp, as the blogger probably attempted to contact Caner about his statements to the troops.FBC Jax Watchdoghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10740366031265491559noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-7835053932743170092010-07-29T00:19:04.564-04:002010-07-29T00:19:04.564-04:00Wow! With apologies to Lewis Carroll or Alice or ...Wow! With apologies to Lewis Carroll or Alice or whomever is most appropriate, this Ergun Caner saga is getting "curiouser and curiouser." Now "Truthful" Tim Guthrie is circulating a rumor that some unnamed individual or individuals are "about to use the military...and thus rally another group to the frying" of poor old Ergun Caner. Folks, I have spent more than a quarter-century on active duty, and I assure you "the military" does not care about Mr. Caner. You would be hard pressed to find more than a handful of American Soldiers, Sailors, Marines, Airmen or Guardians who even know his name (most of those will be chaplains who attended Liberty). Furthermore, Guthrie's patronizing platitude: "Our heroes in the military deserve better than to be used as pawns in this ridiculous evil game," disgusts me. I doubt Mr. Guthrie is qualified to carry the boots of one of our "heroes." As far as the military getting involved, as Guthrie rumors, I believe that is a fabrication from an imagination that knows little or nothing about the way the military works.Jimnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-90248138892207584572010-07-29T00:18:33.160-04:002010-07-29T00:18:33.160-04:00Wow! With apologies to Lewis Carroll or Alice or ...Wow! With apologies to Lewis Carroll or Alice or whomever is most appropriate, this Ergun Caner saga is getting "curiouser and curiouser." Now "Truthful" Tim Guthrie is circulating a rumor that some unnamed individual or individuals are "about to use the military...and thus rally another group to the frying" of poor old Ergun Caner. Folks, I have spent more than a quarter-century on active duty, and I assure you "the military" does not care about Mr. Caner. You would be hard pressed to find more than a handful of American Soldiers, Sailors, Marines, Airmen or Guardians who even know his name (most of those will be chaplains who attended Liberty). Furthermore, Guthrie's patronizing platitude: "Our heroes in the military deserve better than to be used as pawns in this ridiculous evil game," disgusts me. I doubt Mr. Guthrie is qualified to carry the boots of one of our "heroes." As far as the military getting involved, as Guthrie rumors, I believe that is a fabrication from an imagination that knows little or nothing about the way the military works.Jimnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-25387211372583755052010-07-28T22:27:04.759-04:002010-07-28T22:27:04.759-04:00Alpha & Omega Ministries Apologetics Blog [Jam...<a href="http://www.aomin.org/aoblog/index.php?itemid=4098" rel="nofollow">Alpha & Omega Ministries Apologetics Blog [James White] > Misstatements</a><br /><br /><i>A discussion of the difference between even consistent misstatements over time, and lying. Hopefully some helpful thoughts.</i><br /><br />Also James White discusses a little about speeches/sermons Ergun Caner made in May of this year, where he calls the people questioning him as "haters" and more on Dividing Line tomorrow on this subject.<br /><br />I find it interesting that James White speaks so clearly and lucidly. God bless James White.Rameshhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09728392311602332613noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-11753241459044924372010-07-28T16:36:25.362-04:002010-07-28T16:36:25.362-04:00"Caner has been notified that another video i..."Caner has been notified that another video is about to be released with the intent of stirring the military emotions and thus rally another group to the frying."<br /><br />And we all know how emotional the military is.<br /><br />Rumor, emotions, etc <br /><br />Does Tim write for the Enquirer in his spare time?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-24622168736774138522010-07-28T16:08:24.087-04:002010-07-28T16:08:24.087-04:00How this man responded is typical and a common res...How this man responded is typical and a common response of those within the Baptist Mafia...<br /><br />The Truth is Marching on.....Dr Whonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-6702212721567487172010-07-28T16:07:11.607-04:002010-07-28T16:07:11.607-04:00It is the old "preemptive rebuttal" tric...It is the old "preemptive rebuttal" trick that Tim G is trying.<br /><br />Tim has never addressed any of the issues. He has always attacked the person who brought the news. And he never lets facts get in the way.<br /><br />I suspect that there are a lot fewer people who agree with Tim than we think. In fact, we may know them all by name or "handle."Bennett Willishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01200940136846753450noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-88221259090893279562010-07-28T15:57:26.856-04:002010-07-28T15:57:26.856-04:00Tom:
Yes, that was the first thing I noticed. I h...Tom:<br /><br />Yes, that was the first thing I noticed. I have never been to Tim G's website before.<br /><br />At the top it says "Winning Truth" and the very first line says "Rumor has it". Geesh.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-18696060319731983822010-07-28T15:17:26.550-04:002010-07-28T15:17:26.550-04:00Tim G:
Said--"Rumor has it"
Notice no ...Tim G:<br /><br />Said--"Rumor has it"<br /><br />Notice no facts just rumor.<br /><br />Wonder if he would like it if his church folks majored in rumors like he loves to?Tom Parkerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12861689101266081092noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-70376312464906624752010-07-28T14:54:33.384-04:002010-07-28T14:54:33.384-04:00What facts has Tim G. ever presented in support of...What facts has Tim G. ever presented in support of EC or against the ones who have been presenting their facts?<br /><br />He is a strange one, but he seems to have plenty of company.Tom Parkerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12861689101266081092noreply@blogger.com