tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post4945772331487939597..comments2024-03-23T22:54:58.661-04:00Comments on FBC Jax Watchdogs: Charles Stanley's Advice to Christian Wife Whose Hubby Won't Tithe: Read Him Malachi 3, Assume He is Living in SinFBC Jax Watchdoghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10740366031265491559noreply@blogger.comBlogger88125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-83034929409185720602016-07-31T16:13:55.419-04:002016-07-31T16:13:55.419-04:00Hi...you can't serve two gods, it's either...Hi...you can't serve two gods, it's either GOD YAHWEH or money. Money is represented as a god because it has immense power over the ones that live with greed. Money shouldn't have power over us if we believe in Yahushua Messiah (Jesus Christ) as the true son of our Father GOD YAHWEH. We should trust in GOD to provide for us as in any situation, either it be food, clothes or things that we should need to survive. Our faith should be strong in his word by us not just listening to pastors or preachers but by us reading & understanding the Holy Bible. We can not expect for them to be perfect in every way for they are humans just like us & we all fall in different ways, that's why we have to remember to ask for forgiveness when we do with a true heart of repentance. Please do not judge one another with imperfections or curses but live by Yahushuas teachings as he asked us to live. What we do here on earth one day we will have to answer for our faults & whoever uses GODS word to defame him & use it for their own pursuit of power Christ will be his judge, not us. Stay strong in GODS word & don't let others lead you astray.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-89821066775372010182016-06-25T04:27:11.033-04:002016-06-25T04:27:11.033-04:00I would have thought that the New Testament princi...I would have thought that the New Testament principle is that all that we have and are should be considered to belong to God, to be used in accordance with his revealed will. The teaching that we should give a fixed 10% to the church in the hope (faith?) of receiving material abundance from God in return, appears to be totally at odds with New Testament principles. <br /><br />But Dr Stanley appears to have other sources of "truth", as evidenced by the following extract from Wikipedia: "Stanley joined the staff of First Baptist Church of Atlanta in 1969 and became senior pastor in 1971. As a young pastor, he was given the motivational book Think and Grow Rich. He has written, "I began to apply the principles of that book to my endeavors as a pastor, and I discovered they worked!" He also wrote, "For years, I read Think and Grow Rich every year to remind myself that the truth of God is not just for one career field. It is for all manner of work and ministry." <br /><br />Seems to say it all..? Vince Dnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-45971335004985324442015-08-11T18:33:04.793-04:002015-08-11T18:33:04.793-04:00I found myself laughing out loud as I read this. ...I found myself laughing out loud as I read this. The writer shows how crazy tithing must seem to people who have not been convicted to tithe (Yes, a lot of us had a lot of things to be taught by GOD before we were ready for the word TITHE) or have not tithed as an act of obedience to see how GOD blesses obedience. I am happily married for 22 years to a husband who GOD has not convicted to tithe, YET! I am not worried that he is an adulterer, or selfish, or any of those other things that made me laugh. When looking for answers, go straight to GOD. Through his word and the Holy Sprit, you will never be left without an answer. While raising 6 children; I have found that when GOD asks me to do something that I think is impossible, he is testing my obedience and showing me that he can make all things possible. He's building my faith and getting me ready for the next impossible. God doesn't need me understanding how everything works, he just needs me to be willing to do anything he says and then he can show me how he can make everything possible. Even though I thought I knew what my husband must be thinking about tithing, this writer made me understand him better and laugh more than I've laughed in a long time (my youngest son came in the room to see what could be so funny about Charles Stanley. I have been encouraged throughout my life by Charles Stanley's sermons. I would not want to end my post without acknowledging that I have listened to him since I was 20 years old and his teachings encouraged me to seek GOD's will through many years as a wife and mother. I will choose, because the holy spirit has led me, to be submissive to my husband and wait for him to be convicted to tithe; knowing that GOD is in control and his timing is perfect. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-67021689089469890462014-01-28T08:43:31.985-05:002014-01-28T08:43:31.985-05:00I think you totally misconstrued his mention of un...I think you totally misconstrued his mention of unfaithfulness to include adultery, you would have to understand the messenger to understand what this is referring to!! Your just another Gospel hater!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-77919758882651284062014-01-28T08:41:15.840-05:002014-01-28T08:41:15.840-05:00As long as I can remember I have given to God, but...As long as I can remember I have given to God, but when I reached a higher understanding I began to tithe, now I not only tithe, but also give offerings, why? To help the poor and needy and so God's Word can go out, so that ministers such as Charles Stanley can continue to spread the Gospel, and so that the church building needs can be met or that anyone who has a need it can be met...I don't do it to "expect" God to increase my income, but I can tell you this, God has blessed my income, a lot, and I believe it's because I am tithing!! Don't tithe if you don't want to, but one day you will stand in judgement for how you spent the money God gave you!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-37917241156153508052013-10-13T02:59:49.620-04:002013-10-13T02:59:49.620-04:00Well Said anonymous. People also forget to read Ma...Well Said anonymous. People also forget to read Malachi 1.1 "The Burden of the Word of the Lord to ISRAEL.....Mosaic covenant. We are not under this Law. We are under are Greater Law..Giving...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-26001511851367372662013-06-23T12:29:06.364-04:002013-06-23T12:29:06.364-04:00The new Testament is a new convenent with God when...The new Testament is a new convenent with God when Jesus(Yeshua) died and rose from the grave. No where in the New Testament does God command a tithe to early Christian churches. Tithe means 10% of income, and was from Mosaic Law to tithe to the tribe of Levi. When Jesus rose again, we are no longer bound by the old testament Moses law. If you break one of those laws, you break them all. We as Christains are not bound by the Law.<br /><br />There is no curse for "NOT TITHING 10% of your salary" in the New Testament church (as is often implied on false teachings sermons to base their tithing from Malachi 3:10-12) Tithing was part of Mosaic law under Moses in the Old testament. Christians who insist on keeping the Law of Moses or part of it are under a curse. Gal 3:10 All who rely on observing the law are under a curse, for it is written: "Cursed is everyone who does not continue to do everything written in the Book of the Law."<br /><br />When these TV preachers tell you HAVE to give 10% or lose God's blessings, this is spiritual blackmale so these rich preachers can get richer, take first class trips to Israel, cruises to Alaska, fancy cars, expensive suits, and lavish lifestyles. However, while we try to do what they say is God's will, it robs us of our future's retirement savings, our kids college funds, food for the table, mortgage payments. light bills, or creates credit card debt to support their lifestyle. <br /><br />Giving in the New Testament asks to give from the heart what they can afford to give to those in need. It does not mention a requirement to any church. I give as directly as I can to those in need.<br /><br />A true Christian minister tries to live the life of Jesus. He met people at their homes, he traveled modestly on foot, his church were his followers-- not a 10 million dollar cathedral needing 10 million dollars every year to support the building expenses, he had no place to lay his head, he gave what was extra from donations to the poor directly, he preached without begging for money, he was not a non-profit 501C organizational business, he had only one set of clothes not tons of $1900 suits, and probably had a cup and a bowl for possessions, yet this humble man Jesus changed the world!<br /><br />Now why can't most preachers and ministers be like Jesus? They have been tempted by greed and gave into it. It shows in their false teachings in tithings for the church. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-27406949676556840632013-06-09T14:55:55.644-04:002013-06-09T14:55:55.644-04:00@ Anon from Louisiana
said,
"what in the worl...@ Anon from Louisiana<br />said,<br /><i>"what in the world does Charles Stanley being divorced have to do with you or I obeying the Word of God in the first place?"</i><br /><br />I brought it up because it's annoying that divorced preachers such as Stanley and John Hagee are so legalistic about divorce when they themselves have been divorced.<br /><br />And they don't mention during their anti-divorce screeds that they have been divorced themselves. <br /><br />These type of preachers typical advice, that abused women should not divorce, but stay with their abuser is cruel, wrong, dangerous and not scriptural.<br /><br />Signed,<br /> Overgrown ThicketAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-77616882453145987412013-05-30T05:36:51.748-04:002013-05-30T05:36:51.748-04:00anonymous from Lousiana
When was the last time you...anonymous from Lousiana<br />When was the last time you went to McDonalds and ordered a hamburger, then the nice waitress came and gave it to you and said you would not have to pay for it, since they decided from now on all food would be free and that they would "trust God to keep the restaraunt going"--who needs money to pay utility bills, employees, overhead, etc..., anyway. Or, they would only charge customers who said they "believed in paying for their hamburger", and not those that didn't believe they should have to. How long do you think the place would be able to stay opened?<br />Everyone is always trying to get something for nothing... why not extend that attitude to the church, right? By the way, what in the world does Charles Stanley being divorced have to do with you or I obeying the Word of God in the first place? And those of you who think it is okay to attend one church because it's more convenient, yet you send the money you would have given to another ministry instead; would you go to eat at McDonalds,not pay, and then walk across the street to Burger King to pay the bill? I am a tither, and my husband is not. I pray for him, he is a great husband, but he is responsible for his walk with God, and I am responsible for mine. If a man does not object to his wife tithing, she should tithe on her own income. God will not hold her responsible if tithing would cause friction in the marriage, since the man is supposed to be the spiritual leader in the home, but the Lord knows each and every situation completely.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-81422314572095486082012-12-16T16:07:07.431-05:002012-12-16T16:07:07.431-05:00New BBC Open Forum said... "And of course, if...New BBC Open Forum said... <i>"And of course, if you're like Charles Stanley and your car falls apart, you can just sit back and wait for a wealthy church member to give you a new one (begins around the 5-minute mark)."</i><br /><br />That one really grates on me, but it's not just Stanley who has done this.<br /><br />I've seen a few other television pastors say the same thing, including Bayless Conley (his show is called "Answers" and comes on every Sunday).<br /><br />Conley has said a time or two on his show that he felt God tell him to give away one of his cars (or to sell it. I may be getting some details wrong, because it's been a long while since I've heard him tell this story), and he said God told him to donate the funds from the car to his church, or to some other kind of Gospel ministry outreach.<br /><br />So, Conley sold his car, but he didn't want to. <br /><br />But, he said, a few weeks later, some wealthy guy was visiting his church and just gave him, totally free of charge, a brand new car (I think it was a Lexus). <br /><br />The point he was trying to get across is that people need to trust God with their money and possessions even if it means giving it away, and if they do, God will reimburse them.<br /><br />Not that I'm in total disagreement with that concept, but I don't think because <b>he's</b> claiming God directed him specifically to sell one of his cars, that this should be made into a directive for <b>all</b> members of his church or television audience.<br /><br />I've seen a few other TV pastors tell similar stories.<br /><br />They say God told them to sell money or a house for a church cause, and God later gave them a brand new car or home. <br /><br />Maybe God did - but I don't think this principle applies to all Christians.<br /><br />I am very suspicious of pastors (or turned off by ones) who tell these kinds of stories, and all to make their congregations feel guilted or pressured to give money to their church.<br /><br />This "God told me to sell my car so that I could give the money to the church" story is used quite a bit by different pastors.<br /><br />Signed, OvergrownThicketOvergrownThicketnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-29663685318860139652012-12-16T13:55:47.349-05:002012-12-16T13:55:47.349-05:00To someone who said divorce is a sin. I don't ...To someone who said divorce is a sin. I don't agree that it is per se.<br /><br />I think a lot of Christians get teachings on divorce wrong. (I've never married, so I have never divorced, so I don't have a personal agenda here. I'm over 35 years old.)<br /><br />However, there are books and blogs by Christian authors which expound on the topic of divorce which explain that Jesus was not limiting divorce and re-marriage only to cases of sexual sin and death. <br /><br />I think holding to this attitude that divorce is a huge sin does a great harm to Christians (usually females) who are in abusive marriages.<br /><br />On forums and blogs about domestic violence, I have seen many Christian women who talk about how they stayed trapped in physically or emotionally abusive marriage for ten, twenty, thirty years because of this unbiblical, cruel teaching that divorce is always wrong, no matter what (other than for adultery). <br /><br />A lot of churches incorrectly advise abused women who come to them for help to stay with the neanderthal who is abusing them. <br /><br />These poor women are actually commanded or instructed to "submit to" the jerk even more! That does nothing to halt the abuse. (Most experts in the area of domestic violence tell these women to leave the abuser.)<br /><br />I do find it a little annoying when a divorced pastor (such as Stanley) presumes to lecture other Christians about marriage and divorce. <br /><br />Pastor John Hagee, who has a weekly television series on Christian networks, is in the same position: <br /><br />Hagree dumped his first wife for his current one, according to articles I've read, but he sometimes gives these very "fire and brimstone" sermons from his pulpit, where he strongly condemns divorce. He will pound his chubby fist on the lecturn screaming about the eeeeviiiils of divorce. <br /><br />Yet I've not heard Hagee also mention from the pulpit during these rants that he's divorced.<br /><br />Signed,<br />OvergrownThicketOvergrownThicketnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-65220036656148114212012-12-16T13:28:17.101-05:002012-12-16T13:28:17.101-05:00I used to enjoy Stanley's sermons, for years. ...I used to enjoy Stanley's sermons, for years. <br /><br />Sometime in the last couple of years, Stanley's sermons began to rub on me the wrong way. <br /><br />(Not just Stanley rubs me the wrong way these days, but most TV preachers and Christianity in general too, but I wanted to discuss Stanley on this page and reply to a few comments I saw.)<br /><br />This particular segment, where Stanley told the woman that her husband should tithe, and that he will not because he's selfish and sinful - I was appalled by Stanley's response. <br /><br />I saw the episode when it first aired on television.<br /><br />A few years ago, I looked Stanley's name up online, and one or two sources said he makes something like $300,000 a year (maybe 400K), but whatever the exact amount, I recall it was a six figure one. It was a huge amount.<br /><br />What does any preacher do that merits $100K or more a year? <br /><br />All preachers do is give a sermon once a week. They may occasionally offer counseling to members. But I see nothing that justifies over $100K a year.<br /><br />But anyway, what galls me is when Stanley lectures people on tithing and money, especially now in our difficult economy, when some are unable to find employment, and he gives these kinds of sermons every so often.<br /><br />Who is he, who is earning $300k or more<br />a year, to give patronizing or shame-based sermons to his audience that they should fork over more of their money to his (or any) church, or to any religious-based organization? <br /><br />Not every one out there is earning a cushy $300K a year like he is. <br /><br />Just because you pray and trust God does not mean if you fork over your money to a church that God will somehow pay your rent for you, or provide in other ways, or reimburse you for whatever money you give a church.<br /><br />And that even despite those comments from Christ about "Seek ye first..." <br /><br />Not all the promises in the Bible come true for all Christians all the time, regarding finances or other topics. That is a hard truth many preachers refuse to address in their sermons.<br /><br />To Anonymous May 7, 2012 10:53 AM:<br /><br />Let's be fair. <br /><br />It's not just some greedy Southern Baptist pastors who love money, it's a lot of conservative evangelicals of other denominations, or pastors/leaders of non-denominational churches, too.<br /><br />To Anon May 7, 2012 12:46 PM:<br /><br />I disagree. Some of Stanley's teaching is biblical; not all of it is un-biblical<br /><br />Even the biblical content can be problematic though, because Stanley <b>applies</b> it incorrectly.<br /><br /><b>To WD:</b> I have left comments on your blog before, but I'm a very infrequent visitor here.<br /><br /> I never remember what screen names I've used before when I've posted here, sorry. Thank you for allowing me to post here.<br /><br />I have other posts I want to make, but wanted to break them up into several short ones, instead of making one big long one. <br /><br />(I figure shorter posts would be easier for people to read.)<br /><br />I'll sign my name as "<b>OvergrownThicket</b>," but the blog might register my name as "Anonymous."OvergrownThicketnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-36336533059555137502012-12-09T01:47:29.791-05:002012-12-09T01:47:29.791-05:00Rev. Stanley and many other pastors who agree with...Rev. Stanley and many other pastors who agree with his position on tithing never want to talk about 2 Corinthians 8:12 which states:<br /><br /> "For if the willingness is there, the gift is acceptable according to what one has, not according to what he does not have." (NIV)<br /><br />The Commentary Notes to this Scripture in the Life Application Study Bible (Tyndale House Publishers, Inc 2004) explains this Scripture with the following:<br /><br />"[Apostle] Paul says that we should give what we have, not what we don't have. Sacrificial giving must be responsible. Paul warns believers to give generously, but not to the extent that those who depend on the givers (their families, for example) must go without having their basic needs met. Give until it hurts, but don't give so that it hurts your family and/or relatives who need your financial support."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-36754898089916312632012-08-26T08:55:49.243-04:002012-08-26T08:55:49.243-04:00Thanks Watchdog for taking your time to point out ...Thanks Watchdog for taking your time to point out some errors. Not only with Stanly's advice but on tithing.<br /><br />When the Children of Israel came to Mt Sinai they were to go up the mountain and hear God's voice and obey. They rejected that plan and became covenant breakers at that moment. Then they sent Moses back up the mountain with their plan and thus the law came down the mountain and was placed upon them. That was never God's plan.<br /><br />What we see with today's church is when the people reject God's plan, they come under law. Rules and regulations become a way of life.<br /><br />God's people today are to be led by the Holy Spirit. They are to hear the voice of God and obey. But most believers are not in any condition or position to live that kind of life and the law becomes a replacement way of life.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-24812658452008164582012-06-04T15:19:02.483-04:002012-06-04T15:19:02.483-04:00One Anonymous said that you were "one sick pu...One Anonymous said that you were "one sick puppy" and that you needed psychological help. Well, if this person is right, then you should seek the help of Charles Stanley. Stanley doesn't preach the gospel very much -- just psychology! <br /><br />Also, who would want to tithe to a preacher who wants your money to help build another Belogio-style church like the one FBC Dallas is building. Just think, 130 plus million+ -- Just makes me sick!!!!<br /><br />I very much appreciate you Watchdog!<br /><br />MarciaMarcia Hendricksnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-87053072265158672022012-05-21T22:44:58.896-04:002012-05-21T22:44:58.896-04:00"For all those who are having conflicting emo..."For all those who are having conflicting emotions about whether or not they should give tithes, I stand by and believe the Bible rather than any man's word, and this scripture verse (Leviticus 27:30) speaks loud and clear about the Tithe. <br />If 'you' still have issues with it after reading this verse, it's through your own disobedience, NOT God's. Do what's right by Him for all that He's done for you, but mainly because it's the right thing to do (no matter what anyone else says)."<br /><br />I guess that means I cannot fry my meat in goats milk, either. And we should stone homosexuals. It is all there....in the OT.<br /><br />I am amazed at the ignorance out there in Christendom.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-83653692814332413212012-05-17T05:22:49.145-04:002012-05-17T05:22:49.145-04:00To divorce is not the "sin". You have t...To divorce is not the "sin". You have to look at the contrast between the "adultress" (or prostitute) on who's behalf Jesus interceded and how divorce was perceived in 1st century Judea. <br /><br />Jesus did not condemn her because of her debased status, her "lot" in life, her probable extreme poverty, etc., etc.<br /><br />Divorce on the other hand, was a selfish act and usually only obtained by the rich and for selfish reasons - lust, greed, loss of attraction, etc., and utterly destructive to the family and to the wife who had little or no rights. Rarely was it obtained for adultery or physical or mental abuse (yeah ladies, good luck with that in 1st century Judea). Jesus in effect is saying that if you divorce for such selfish reasons and remarry - you're an adulterer in the eyes of God nevertheless.<br /><br />Funny though...Jesus never seemed to "condemn" anyone outright. On the other hand, he never seemed to give the rich and affluent any excuses or cut them any slack.<br /><br />In this guy's case - did he remarry? I'm not nosy enough to wonder about the reasons he divorced. I do know this, however: Divorce is destructive - and far more destructive to the institution of marriage than gay marriage or even the mere acknowledgement of homosexuality, as a single example, could ever be. It pits parents against their children, children against their parents and often forces children to lie about one of their parents under threat of punishment - "shunning", if you will. So how come Preachers, Priests and Rabbis don't raise the roof to condemn it?<br /><br />Because nobody cuts off their nose to spite their face. Or shoots themselves in the foot or what ever metaphor you want to choose. Because divorce has become acceptable. Tossing aside your partner for one who's more wealthy, younger, prettier, sexier is all the rage. But how many ministers I wonder, have counseled abused spouses to honor their own vows?<br /><br />Interracial marriage, gay marriage, card playing, substance abuse, short dresses, dirty dancing, watching "Glee" - easy targets to be shrill about. Not a lot of thinking or reflecting goes into sermons condemning those things. I'm not suggesting preachers never address it from the pulpit - but they're not public about it as they should be. Angering a divorced and remarried congregant who brings dollars into your church is more dangerous than condemning a homosexual who isn't welcome in your church in the first place.MikeH.https://www.blogger.com/profile/07151462359800934956noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-53501381586404840272012-05-16T11:05:09.347-04:002012-05-16T11:05:09.347-04:00Debra - you say you believe in giving the Tithe, t...Debra - you say you believe in giving the Tithe, then everything else you wrote is a clear argument against tithing. Give generously, from the heart. I agree. Tithing, by definition, is not cheerful, from the heart, new testament giving. It is old testament law, with the threat of death and a curse if you don't give it to the religious leaders.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-85112432252738252572012-05-15T09:43:35.548-04:002012-05-15T09:43:35.548-04:00I am a Christian and I believe in giving Tithe. so...I am a Christian and I believe in giving Tithe. some people like to turn around other peoples words so it can fit what they want to say. God said to give from our heart. God don't want any ones money that feels they don't want to give it is not a rule it's a heart thing. Don't we teach our children to share. we teach them to give. God ask us to give when are heart is in it its to pay bills in the Church its to help people out side the church. Its to help people in the church. it's not free to do theses things. Yes there are people that miss use Gods money but there are many more that don't. I want to have a giving heart. I am sorry that people don't see the real reason we Tithe. In the old testament it was law new testament in your heart. if it's not in your heart to give then don't give but don't put down people that do give because you don't understand why they do it.Debranoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-83540450018999299802012-05-12T09:17:12.884-04:002012-05-12T09:17:12.884-04:00The problem is that Stanley (and all the other sto...The problem is that Stanley (and all the other storehouse tithing ministers) equate giving and tithing. From the question Stanley posed, you don't know if the real issue was giving to the church or tithing. You don't know if this person is a Christian, you don't know if they go to church with the spouse. <br /><br />Funny, the people who profit the most from tithing are the ones who continue to preach this false teaching of old covenant tithing as still binding on new covenant Christians.Marknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-78454098630601949852012-05-11T21:40:02.117-04:002012-05-11T21:40:02.117-04:00From the pulpit, he stated that if he ever divorce...From the pulpit, he stated that if he ever divorced, he'd step away from the pulpit...<br /><br />...still waiting for him to be a man of his own word.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-71903657558804683542012-05-11T17:52:04.198-04:002012-05-11T17:52:04.198-04:00http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_3T-Af57Pg&sns...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_3T-Af57Pg&sns=fb<br /><br />Here are two SBC pastors discussing the tithe distribution and the over-and-beyond-the tithe you give for other essentials.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-48257116545258611722012-05-11T16:16:08.037-04:002012-05-11T16:16:08.037-04:00Mark - (and any other pastor or layman that since...Mark - (and any other pastor or layman that sincerely questions how the church can function without money) your question from yesterday deserves a sincere answer, not just from Tom, but from others that believe God does not rely on the tithe to fund worthwhile ministries and missions like you asked about in the local church. Here is how he funds it in the New Testament: Each person gives as God has prospered him. Cheerfully, what EACH man has purposed in his own heart, not under compulsion. So what this will look like is the church will be full of elderly who pray and serve but can't give; children and college students who can't give, families who are poor and barely surviving financially due to health issues, lost jobs, poor decisions, etc. and can't give AND (Praise God!) there will be some men and women who are able to give millions to the ministry. While others can give thousands, while others can give a few hundred per month. Others will leave bequests. All of these people together are used by God to meet the financial needs for that congregation. The leaders should be able to minister on that budget God provides. They shouldn't have to beat the sheep or teach a false tithing doctrine. They need to do what they preach to us: Be a good steward of what God provides and Trust God to Meet all needs.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-57870445487118743402012-05-11T14:08:49.262-04:002012-05-11T14:08:49.262-04:00As far as tithing goes I don't want so spend o...As far as tithing goes I don't want so spend our hard earned money to a mega church like FBCJ that squanders funds on extravagant salaries and perks for select pastors, telemarketing fees, and so forth.<br /><br /> I believe in tithing - giving to others who are less fortunate is an experience like no other. It's been said that those who give get so much more back in return. Whether your tithe is large or small doesn't matter. Every little bit adds up to make a big impact on someone's life. <br /><br />Thanks to all of you who write with common sense as I do enjoy reading your thoughts (except for the troll who is a joke)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-28333393908874376712012-05-11T11:43:00.093-04:002012-05-11T11:43:00.093-04:00A good blog where the truth is always spoken is &q...A good blog where the truth is always spoken is " News with Views". Check out Pastor Chuch Baldwin May 10 2012.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com