tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post6361612032076316409..comments2024-03-23T22:54:58.661-04:00Comments on FBC Jax Watchdogs: Deja Vu: Church Elders - Four Grown Men - Make Video to Discredit Those who Seek to "Destroy Our Pastor"FBC Jax Watchdoghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10740366031265491559noreply@blogger.comBlogger21125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-15472282758437104572013-10-04T22:49:20.649-04:002013-10-04T22:49:20.649-04:00Crazy does not begin to describe the arrogance of ...Crazy does not begin to describe the arrogance of these four men. How many years of brainwashing did it take to get to this point?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-20306473590083260932013-10-03T14:55:18.917-04:002013-10-03T14:55:18.917-04:00Hi. My name is Daisy. I post over at TWW blog.
I ...Hi. My name is Daisy. I post over at TWW blog.<br /><br />I saved a copy of the video to my hard drive. <br /><br />A copy of the file was placed on "File Tea" per someone's suggestion. That was available on File Tea yesterday. If someone wants/ needs a copy, let me know.<br /><br />I see someone above claims to have a copy online. Let me know if you ever need my copy of it, where I can upload it.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-78829831711416032362013-10-03T13:33:58.815-04:002013-10-03T13:33:58.815-04:00WishIhadknown said...
"Well, I see the cowar...WishIhadknown said... <br />"Well, I see the cowards have taken down the video."<br /><br />Well, somebody managed to capture the video and it is now saved for posterity at the Internet Archive.<br /><br />LOL<br /><br /><a href="http://archive.org/details/JamesMacDonaldHarvastBibleChapel" rel="nofollow"><br /><b>http://archive.org/details/JamesMacDonaldHarvastBibleChapel</b></a><br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-7132993369281251322013-10-02T17:47:27.782-04:002013-10-02T17:47:27.782-04:00Non-Christians don't FEAR church members....th...Non-Christians don't FEAR church members....they simply think church members falling for this nonsense are ignorant (ie: stupid) and want nothing to do with them. Gullible-ness is not a virtue!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-23027843001555592962013-10-02T17:10:09.948-04:002013-10-02T17:10:09.948-04:00After reading the comments of these "Elders&q...After reading the comments of these "Elders" if I went to this church I would run far away from this group and never look back.<br />This is why I left the church--tired of manipulation and mind control.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-64929637281911078762013-10-01T17:25:43.381-04:002013-10-01T17:25:43.381-04:00Well, I see the cowards have taken down the video....Well, I see the cowards have taken down the video. <br />I was taught that if you are truly living for Jesus then you have to expect criticism. If there are false accusations that need addressing then a preacher can address them. He has the pulpit for crying out loud.<br /><br />I have a hard time with this new meanness in the ministry. I have a hard time with the idea that everyone in a church must unquestioningly follow the preacher. Isn’t that a cult? I am still shocked that the strategy of the modern church is to recruit “quality members” instead of win souls. I wish God’s people would wake up.<br /><br />Whatever happened to Matthew 5:10-12:<br />10"Blessed are those who have been persecuted for the sake of righteousness, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven. 11"Blessed are you when people insult you and persecute you, and falsely say all kinds of evil against you because of Me. 12"Rejoice and be glad, for your reward in heaven is great; for in the same way they persecuted the prophets who were before you.WishIhadknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12487727353887788291noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-50005405831098282442013-10-01T17:24:33.296-04:002013-10-01T17:24:33.296-04:00Well, I see the cowards have taken down the video....Well, I see the cowards have taken down the video. <br />I was taught that if you are truly living for Jesus then you have to expect criticism. If there are false accusations that need addressing then a preacher can address them. He has the pulpit for crying out loud.<br /><br />I have a hard time with this new meanness in the ministry. I have a hard time with the idea that everyone in a church must unquestioningly follow the preacher. Isn’t that a cult? I am still shocked that the strategy of the modern church is to recruit “quality members” instead of win souls. I wish God’s people would wake up.<br /><br />Whatever happened to Matthew 5:10-12:<br />10"Blessed are those who have been persecuted for the sake of righteousness, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven. 11"Blessed are you when people insult you and persecute you, and falsely say all kinds of evil against you because of Me. 12"Rejoice and be glad, for your reward in heaven is great; for in the same way they persecuted the prophets who were before you.<br />WishIhadknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12487727353887788291noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-70076493666193145672013-10-01T17:23:57.898-04:002013-10-01T17:23:57.898-04:00I am done with this looking on your blog and repen...I am done with this looking on your blog and repent. I am absolutely in disagreement with this post but not in the sense of siding with any party but that I am not seeing any reconciliation focus or purpose in this post. What were the details here? I am confused.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-62365631566666661152013-10-01T17:19:45.509-04:002013-10-01T17:19:45.509-04:00This whole thing makes me sad. I wish those of us ...This whole thing makes me sad. I wish those of us Preach/Teach/Lead in Church would do so humbly and with reverence for the Lord Jesus. You see I love the local Church big or small it was the local Church that loved me out of hell. I pray we put our egos to death and point people to Jesus. the mussing of a D&D Preacherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04927783371528084483noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-11508118540809981762013-10-01T13:46:57.059-04:002013-10-01T13:46:57.059-04:00Hey all of you (bloggers) I just finished reading...Hey all of you (bloggers) I just finished reading your comments and had myself a good laugh. What can I say, I've gone to church most of my life; I'm glad to see people such as yourselves not being intimidated in the least by Mega ego church leaders. AMEN!Nancyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06238812441176222836noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-62796971969391312142013-10-01T05:21:56.219-04:002013-10-01T05:21:56.219-04:00OK somebody please tell me just exactly where this...OK somebody please tell me just exactly where this ego driven train wreck of what was once called the local church will end. <br />Where does this absurd and totally bizarre behavior from "leadership" come from, stupidity or drug induced delusions ? This kind of thing has become so common that we almost expect, and sadly except it. I hope these duffy, dopey deacons realize what fools they have made out of themselves. Especially the scripted announcement with all the head nodding and weird facial expressions. I don't see this kind of thing occurring anywhere except with CHURCH PEOPLE ! Lord help us.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-76515897523847652912013-09-30T18:59:47.628-04:002013-09-30T18:59:47.628-04:00It is sad to see this going down the way it is. I...It is sad to see this going down the way it is. I've been positiively impacted spiritually by the ministry of James Macdonald in his teaching of scripture (first heard him 6 years ago or so). However, things like this do happen and if there is a cover up and he is in the wrong, then he needs to repent. <br /><br />We need more humble pastors. I guess that's why I go to a under 100 person church. <br /><br />The truth will eventually come out. <br /><br />Thanks for your blogAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-18932714864290866972013-09-30T15:46:53.620-04:002013-09-30T15:46:53.620-04:00It really is hard to believe that it is real, and ...<b><i>It really is hard to believe that it is real, and that these four grown men's minds have become so corrupt that they believe what they are saying.</i></b><br /><br />That's what kept going through my mind as I watched the WHOLE video. And they sit there with straight face, heads bobbing in affirmation of each other, all while committing slander/libel/defamation against the men they are smearing. That video would be Exhibit A in the lawsuit.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-77565866250529847122013-09-30T05:56:22.085-04:002013-09-30T05:56:22.085-04:00I wonder if Jim Jones' elder board instructed ...I wonder if Jim Jones' elder board instructed the members to drink the cool aid? MacDonald's statement at the end of his introduction "listen now" sounded like he was somewhat angry. Do the members of that church have any recourse or option presented to them if the "elders" leading them are wrong about an issue? I'm personally too busy trying to grown in my relationship with God my father than waste time trying to figure out how to please earthly men who seek my devotion and obedience. As the saying goees, "ain't no body got time for that."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-91038620028811635862013-09-29T16:30:10.445-04:002013-09-29T16:30:10.445-04:00Apparently this blog is still getting under the sk...Apparently this blog is still getting under the skin of Daddy Mac as noted by his comment this morning about him not caring what people blog or tweet about him. Sad to see a grown man and even sadder to see a preacher act so immature when it comes to people saying things about them. Dr. Lindsay would have never stooped so low as to using the pulpit as a bully pulpit the way Mac has used it since coming the First Baptist. Hard to believe it has been 20 years since we moved into the Main Auditorium back in 1993. Since then we have seen a preacher do away with visitation and training union and causing so many people to leave that we are now the 3rd largest church in Jax and the 50th largest church in the SBC. I remember John McAuthor saying a stage is for performing a pulpit is for preaching. Anybody who remembers First Baptist back in the late 90s will remember how big the pulpit was and how we use to hear a humble pastor preach the Bible and see people flocking down the aisles during the invitation. Now we has a preacher who has turned the podium into a stage and gives us history lessons a tells about the movies he has seen. I'm sure if Dr. Lindsay were still alive he probably would have done what scores of others have done and went and joined another church. I would love to know how many people have been saved and baptized since Brunson became the pastor. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-35567704377940172462013-09-29T05:59:17.007-04:002013-09-29T05:59:17.007-04:00In the business world, do men consider those who d...In the business world, do men consider those who disagree with them to be doing the work of Satan? <br /><br />This is what religion does to your brain.Lynnnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-36981270426938991962013-09-28T17:27:02.312-04:002013-09-28T17:27:02.312-04:00That video was just creepy. It should serve as a w...That video was just creepy. It should serve as a warning to anyone who wants to grace their doors. <br /><br />I am sure these 4 are expecting big promotions for their steadfastness. <br /><br />Marknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-74107053102013682392013-09-27T19:58:27.490-04:002013-09-27T19:58:27.490-04:00Oh my. So embarrassed for these guys. The first qu...Oh my. So embarrassed for these guys. The first question I'd ask as a member is "who in the world are you to me?" Also you'd think with 7 campuses and probably a huge media budget, they could at least produce a professional video. But no matter. It was a poor decision to do it, and its impact will be minimal.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-67946892477620015372013-09-27T14:25:41.507-04:002013-09-27T14:25:41.507-04:00And this, ladies and gentlemen, is why you will fi...And this, ladies and gentlemen, is why you will find me at home or some place other than a church every Sunday of the week.Ronnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-53015023184678746112013-09-27T12:47:49.279-04:002013-09-27T12:47:49.279-04:00I totally agree with Anonymous 11:35
This really ...I totally agree with Anonymous 11:35<br /><br />This really comes down to a lack of trust in God. These MOG seem to think they need to help the Holy Spirit out by controlling the flock. (That is actually the best case scenario. Worst case they have lost sight of their mission and are all caught up in the trappings of their "success".) Teach the word and trust the Spirit to apply it to the hearts and lives of those who receive it. There is a place for church discipline but I'm pretty sure it's not to be used by ego maniac celebrity MOG to maintain control.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-7363112800407661232013-09-27T11:35:09.578-04:002013-09-27T11:35:09.578-04:00The older I get, the more irritated I get with the...The older I get, the more irritated I get with the church "warning" me about what I do, what I don't do, what I eat, what I drink, how often I read my Bible, pray, witness, come to church, give, what I wear, what movies I see, what I think, who I listen to, who I'm friends with, what I read, and on and on and on.<br /><br />How about just coming to church to hear the Word of God through the Holy Spirit, spoken truthfully and compassionately - enjoying fellowship without judgment - and the rest will take care of itself.<br /><br />If more pastors had this approach and worried first about their own behavior, they would not need to be "protected."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com