tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post6383944388615236842..comments2024-03-23T22:54:58.661-04:00Comments on FBC Jax Watchdogs: Paula Deen Gets Fired, Ergun Caner Keeps Getting Hired - Even as He Continues to Advance Ethnic and Racial Stereotypes in the PulpitFBC Jax Watchdoghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10740366031265491559noreply@blogger.comBlogger42125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-57006732028110126872013-11-23T12:28:52.203-05:002013-11-23T12:28:52.203-05:00Brothers cannot force brothers to be honest, uprig...Brothers cannot force brothers to be honest, upright, and principled ...sisters cannot do that for sisters either. The best the Erdem Caner can do is to live a life of honest and principled actions and stay out of his brothers' misdeeds. If asked, he should be truthful about their family in the early years; otherwise, he is best left out of this discussion. Emir, and certainly Ergun, appear to be frauds.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-3323172979872699402013-08-25T00:23:49.483-04:002013-08-25T00:23:49.483-04:00Erdem Caner is a financial adviser (or something l...Erdem Caner is a financial adviser (or something like that in Ohio). How honest could he be if he is going along with the lies and not calling his brothers to be honest and live with some sort of integrity. It is my understanding that some of this has caused issues between some of the family on his wife's side and Ergun over the lies and the way he acts. However, I can not say for certain, but could see this as being truthful.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-21298654703303805392013-08-24T14:47:39.977-04:002013-08-24T14:47:39.977-04:00Greetings All,
Obviously one is not in possession...Greetings All,<br /><br />Obviously one is not in possession of all the private facts but the evidence would appear to indicate that this has all the elements of a pair of weak-willed and insecure individuals unable to prevent themselves succumbing to the temptation of Mammon and then lacking the strength of purpose to use the only viable exit door available to them – the one marked redemption.<br /><br />The transition from E. Michael Caner before 2001 to Ergun Mehmet Caner, after 9/11, would appear to indicate a path traveled from self-consciousness and embarrassment about true identity to an over-amplified and over-blown, very public and somewhat disingenuous rejection of that self-same identity, fueled at least in part by the temptation of Mammon.<br /><br />The saddest thing of all, in my view, is that, without the lies, there is, in all likelihood, an eminently believable, simple, genuine tale of a failed marriage, a broken home, an unhappy atmosphere, burdened souls, a confused identities and an unfulfilled hunger to belong, which all combined to trigger a search for meaning that ultimately led Ergun and Emir to the Church. The problem is that, for the independent observer, the impenetrably thick fog of lies render the discernment, identification and isolation of any indisputable truths whatsoever in this unhappy narrative, a less than straight forward task.<br /><br />Interesting side debate about Emir Caner. Even more interesting side debate - there are, in fact, three Caner brothers. Has anyone ever given any thought as to why so little mention is ever made of Erdem Caner? Would it be beyond the bounds of possibility that there's actually an honest Caner brother?Garyhttp://gapoblog.wordpress.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-55569849753149145152013-07-31T05:26:37.863-04:002013-07-31T05:26:37.863-04:00Unrelated, but possibly of interest - New Reality ...Unrelated, but possibly of interest - New Reality Show About Rich Pastors<br /><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yDh-hE2OLvM" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yDh-hE2OLvM</a>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-24174085738267196072013-07-24T18:06:09.889-04:002013-07-24T18:06:09.889-04:00UPDATE ALREADY!!!UPDATE ALREADY!!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-86089561952709063582013-07-21T21:23:35.758-04:002013-07-21T21:23:35.758-04:00English is not his first on second lanuage I have ...English is not his first on second lanuage I have heard him speak and to me it's his only language! LOLAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-90770400497882896402013-07-10T13:25:32.311-04:002013-07-10T13:25:32.311-04:00Judge, Rebuke and Shun:
http://lglpconnect.com/20...Judge, Rebuke and Shun:<br /><br />http://lglpconnect.com/2013/06/21/judge-rebuke-and-shun-2/Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-83528746081932624752013-07-09T14:51:18.287-04:002013-07-09T14:51:18.287-04:00Take a look at this new ebook: "The New Prote...Take a look at this new ebook: "The New Protestant Reformation"<br /><br />http://lglpministries.com/eBooks/The%20NEW%20Protestant%20Reformation.pdf<br /><br />The church is going to have to change if it is to survive in the future.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-69519493695296190592013-07-09T14:43:14.643-04:002013-07-09T14:43:14.643-04:00"I Fight Back"
Must be his Muslim backg..."I Fight Back"<br /><br />Must be his Muslim background/training kicking in?<br /><br />But Ergun Caner preaches Christianity?<br /><br />"Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, the new creation has come: The old has gone, the new is here!"<br /><br />Ho Ho HoAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-59944587462437448182013-07-07T14:35:29.471-04:002013-07-07T14:35:29.471-04:00I don't know why no one asks Emir where he was...I don't know why no one asks Emir where he was born and when. This question would be followed by, "Did your entire family live in Ohio at that time?"<br /><br />What would Emir say????<br /><br />I guess interviewers are just too polite.Bennett Willishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01200940136846753450noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-68214654370949159272013-07-06T19:40:18.212-04:002013-07-06T19:40:18.212-04:00"Innocent before the Consistory. Bullies/Trol..."Innocent before the Consistory. Bullies/Trolls: I Fight Back"<br /> Ergun Mehmet Caner @erguncanerAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-1367062404062512412013-07-06T15:27:30.373-04:002013-07-06T15:27:30.373-04:00A bit of an update on Ergun Caner. Caner reported...A bit of an update on Ergun Caner. Caner reported a DMCA against a video that James White produced which clearly demonstrates Caner's serial lying. As could be protected, YouTube took the video down. James White provided the appropriate evidence against Caner's complaint.<br /><br />YouTube restored the video. Here it is:<br /><br />http://aomin.org/aoblog/index.php?itemid=5478Katienoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-10595859890829611652013-07-01T23:08:07.657-04:002013-07-01T23:08:07.657-04:00Ergo.Ergo.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-72371028514513919052013-06-28T14:50:40.946-04:002013-06-28T14:50:40.946-04:00Peter Lumpkins' puckered lips are firmly attac...Peter Lumpkins' puckered lips are firmly attached to the hindquarters of the Very Reverend Jerry Vines.<br /><br />Lumpy's "publishing company" just published a book in Vines' honor.<br /><br />Vines is a friend and supporter of Prestonwood.<br /><br />Ergo, Lumpkins is not going to say anything negative about Prestonwood.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-74310769358796902242013-06-28T09:41:01.888-04:002013-06-28T09:41:01.888-04:00Anonymous said...
Looks like Peter Lumpkins has mu...Anonymous said...<br />Looks like Peter Lumpkins has much to say about this posting<br /><br />QUESTION: Who the heck is Peter Lumpkins?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-33750429557068234032013-06-27T22:30:34.280-04:002013-06-27T22:30:34.280-04:00Stop Baptist Predators [Christa Brown] > SNAP r...<a href="http://stopbaptistpredators.blogspot.com/2013/06/snap-responds-to-southern-baptist-abuse.html" rel="nofollow">Stop Baptist Predators [Christa Brown] > SNAP responds to Southern Baptist abuse resolution</a><br /><br /><i>"The Southern Baptist Convention has passed a resolution urging people to report child sex crimes to law enforcement. Big deal.<br /><br />This is a virtually worthless 'feel good' public relations move that basically protects no one. Brave action, not vague resolutions, stops crimes against kids."</i>Rameshhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09728392311602332613noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-31735722929604667582013-06-27T17:02:50.623-04:002013-06-27T17:02:50.623-04:00Amy:
You said:"Why won't anyone among th...Amy:<br /><br />You said:"Why won't anyone among the SBC who supported this resolution speak out for them?"<br /><br />I've been SBC for 39 years and sadly I have learned many of the SBC resolutions where just that and nothing takes place afterwards.<br /><br />I hope I'm wrong but I'm inclined to believe the 2013 Resolution was a PR item for the SBC.Tom Parkerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12861689101266081092noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-5126640649221454762013-06-27T13:55:50.039-04:002013-06-27T13:55:50.039-04:00Lumpkins seems to want to focus only on SGM ties, ...Lumpkins seems to want to focus only on SGM ties, like is this directed just at Mohler? Weeks ago when I first heard about his resolution, I tried several times to submit a comment on his blog encouraging that the light of truth also shine on documented abuse and cover up WITHIN the SBC, like at Prestonwood, but he never would publish any of those comments. He calls pointing to CRIMINAL court documents detailing child sex abuse of children within MS and TX Baptist churches (one Prestonwood victim came forward to MS prosecutors) "emotional jump-to conclusions" yet he drafted a resolution after reading the SGM civil lawsuit? http://www.scribd.com/doc/117329773/Langworthy-State-s-Response<br /><br />Langworthy pleaded guilty in Jan. 2013 and received a 50 year suspended sentence. He's not in jail. It's critical that Prestonwood still call police in Dallas to report the known abuse that occurred there and support the already 2 survivors from Prestonwood who have contacted police in Dallas and Plano in the last few months. Why won't anyone among the SBC who supported this resolution speak out for them? Amy Smithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09238444710658478191noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-77397850142722454422013-06-26T16:05:01.701-04:002013-06-26T16:05:01.701-04:00Amy,
Join the club. I asked Peter a sincere quest...Amy,<br /><br />Join the club. I asked Peter a sincere question via Twitter (He was caricaturing Calvinism in an unfair light). One can believe what they want about theological systems, but at least be honest in your disagreements. When I asked him, he EXPLODED. He then blocked me from his Twitter account. When I posted on his comments section the other day, he said I would no longer be able to post there. I haven't slept in a few days (sarcasm). <br /><br />Lumpkins has an agenda. His logic is skewed. He can't dialogue with anyone without resorting to insults and talking down to others.<br /><br />Justin Justinnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-10192331788671004142013-06-26T14:13:22.268-04:002013-06-26T14:13:22.268-04:00Amy, Peter Lumpkins is a despicable mean-spirited ...Amy, Peter Lumpkins is a despicable mean-spirited man. He doesn't give two bean sprouts about child abuse. His goal is always personal. He detests Calvinism and it seems that wherever you find Lumpkins publicly trying to hurt people, you will find reformed theology. What do Al Mohler, James White, C.J. Mahaney all have in common? <br />Ever wonder why he doesn't go after Paige Patterson for his involvement in the whole Daryl Gilyard affair? <br /><br />I have never read anything that Lumpkins puts out that shows a scintilla of Christian love. Nothing whatsoever. But, the most detestable thing he has done , to my way of thinking, is to use abused children as a way to spread his venom against those he places in his target sights. <br /><br />I try very hard not to judge another person’s relationship with Christ. It’s all I can do to manage my own. But the scriptures teach us that there is little in the Christian’s domain that should countenance liars. Ergun Caner is a liar. That’s a fact and all the lawsuits in the world won’t change that. Still, Caner should be extended forgiveness if he repents. He hasn’t. In fact, he is stirring up more strife. All of this Caner nonsense had pretty much settled down. Jason Smathers and James White didn’t re-bring up Caner’s lies. Caner did. <br /><br />1 Corinthians 5:11 says “But I actually, wrote to you not to associate with any so-called brother if he is an immoral person, or covetous, or an idolater, or a reviler, or a drunkard, or a swindler - not to even eat with such a one.” Christian churches who continue to use Caner in their programs are in opposition to the scriptures. <br /><br />If Peter Lumpkins is against you, count it all joy. You know right from wrong and are on the right side of the Christian teachings. Katienoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-13364429990933733342013-06-26T09:18:52.284-04:002013-06-26T09:18:52.284-04:00I'm hoping Caner fades into the oblivion that ...I'm hoping Caner fades into the oblivion that is Arlington Baptist College. If the media coverage will stop, perhaps that will happen.<br /><br />I don't have any idea who Lumpkins is, nor do I care to know. It sounds like he has as little credibility as Caner.<br /><br />What either of these two also-rans says does not create even a speed bump in my daily living.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-12091365134255416092013-06-26T07:18:11.749-04:002013-06-26T07:18:11.749-04:00Amy,
Nobody takes Peter Lumpkins seriously. The o...Amy,<br /><br />Nobody takes Peter Lumpkins seriously. The only reason Lumpkins got on the band wagon against child abuse is because he saw it as a way to strike back at an enemy - Al Mohler. Do a quick search of YouTube and watch 2011 when Al Mohler verbally rips Lumpkins apart from the platform for a ridiculous charge Peter made about homosexuality and Mohler's alleged support of Jonathan Merritt. Anyway, that little fiasco embarrassed the fire out of Peter (he said as much to his friends) and he chose "child abuse" as his next trumpet concert in order to get back at Al Mohler for his association with CJ Mahaney. You have experienced Peter's true colors. Just wait. Once he's identified you as the enemy, anything you say will be denigrated, deleted (in Peter's bizarre world the word is 'non-published') or diminished. Keep it up, Amy, you are on to something. You will find Peter Lumpkins cares little about child abuse and much about getting even.Billhttp://www.sbc.netnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-59280885621916955792013-06-26T05:51:44.579-04:002013-06-26T05:51:44.579-04:00I wouldn't believe Lumpy if he told me that th...I wouldn't believe Lumpy if he told me that there are seven days in a week.The Other Tomnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-73076737948758650942013-06-25T23:00:03.469-04:002013-06-25T23:00:03.469-04:00Amy he most definitely was attacking you verbally ...Amy he most definitely was attacking you verbally and that is also a type of abusive behavior. Does he have no shame for attacking you like that in a public forum?Tom Parkerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12861689101266081092noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-75485786487405344322013-06-25T22:57:33.723-04:002013-06-25T22:57:33.723-04:00Amy:
I'm sad to say that I thought Mr. Lumpki...Amy:<br /><br />I'm sad to say that I thought Mr. Lumpkins was sincere about his resolution, but I am not sure now. He most definitely was attacking you.<br /><br />Tom Parkerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12861689101266081092noreply@blogger.com