tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post6532274428407069204..comments2024-03-23T22:54:58.661-04:00Comments on FBC Jax Watchdogs: Mac Uses 10 People Holding Dollar Bills to Show What "All the Upset is About" - It's Just "That Little 10% that God Requires"FBC Jax Watchdoghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10740366031265491559noreply@blogger.comBlogger121125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-25933073385946348312010-10-13T20:52:06.096-04:002010-10-13T20:52:06.096-04:00Biblical tithing is an outlined, detailed, and ver...Biblical tithing is an outlined, detailed, and very specific system in the Mosaic Law:(Lev.27:30-34; Dt.14:22-27). Kosher food items, and cattle is what was required.<br />Who was authorized to receive it is indicated:(Num.18:21-32). Disbursement of 3rd & 6th year tithe: (Dt.14:28-29). There are many other details involved.... <br /><br />The question, "What would Jesus do (WWJD)?" really intrigues me in this case: supposing HE was a carpenter:(and most certainly NOT a farmer or cattleman,)then, what would HE "tithe?" A tenth of each table or chair HE made! What about Peter, James, and John who were fishermen: what would they bring to the Temple, in accordance with the Law? Would they bring a "TITHE" of fish sandwiches? It seems to me, that they would have to break the Law, in their efforts, to keep the Law! I don't think Jesus would do that, DO YOU?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-71476459309661762292010-10-12T12:14:07.372-04:002010-10-12T12:14:07.372-04:00He has no shame.He has no shame.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-4875866007485406152010-10-11T04:28:06.237-04:002010-10-11T04:28:06.237-04:00"Math at church can be fun."
Especial..."Math at church can be fun."<br /><br /> Especially when the megas get to count the cash raked in by their "giving units" every week. ;)Sherinoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-75549593774385323882010-10-10T23:36:27.948-04:002010-10-10T23:36:27.948-04:00But he is good at math.
He did say last year that...But he is good at math.<br /><br />He did say last year that he was "tithing on the tithe", which is 11%.<br /><br />I believe we should tithe on the tithe on the tithe, which would put us at 11.1%, or a tithe on the tithe on the tithe on the tithe, which would require oodles of faith, at 11.11%.<br /><br />Math at church can be fun.FBC Jax Watchdoghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10740366031265491559noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-63124129977650527342010-10-10T23:34:27.815-04:002010-10-10T23:34:27.815-04:00Anon - yes, it truly was cutting edge.
All these ...Anon - yes, it truly was cutting edge.<br /><br />All these years, I thought that a tithe or 10% meant "10 out of 100". And now Mac's genius showed that it is really just "1 out of 10". He is very smart, and on the ball.<br /><br />:)FBC Jax Watchdoghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10740366031265491559noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-61552980914895461352010-10-10T23:32:16.904-04:002010-10-10T23:32:16.904-04:00I, for one, hate that I missed this service on tit...I, for one, hate that I missed this service on tithing. I have never been able to figure out how much one tenth is. And to go the extra mile and use visuals-why, oh why wasn't I there?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-68865069723077557392010-10-10T21:09:22.080-04:002010-10-10T21:09:22.080-04:00WOW! I am reading the discourse between "the...WOW! I am reading the discourse between "the Other Tom" and "Keith" and this is turning into a blood bath. <br /><br />Why are we attacking each other? If Mac has done something wrong he needs to be held accountable as any of us do. If he hasn't then logic serves that he doesn't need to be defended. If you support him, tell him and send your tithes and offerings to FBC JAX. <br />And by the way, I do believe in tithing. <br /><br />This was a much better site when it didn't get personal and start name calling.<br /><br />On a different note, I am reading and getting a sense that things at FBC JAX is not like it once was. By that I mean, that lines are being drawn in the membership and their is a beginning of taking sides those for Mac and those against. Is this the case? If so, how I hate to this. This was what Dr. Vines, once called a pastor's dream church when he left.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-12960255282731191612010-10-10T20:53:14.311-04:002010-10-10T20:53:14.311-04:00Mac has a house. Mac has a tie. Mac has a pair of ...Mac has a house. Mac has a tie. Mac has a pair of shoes. Mac has a life... Mac Mac Mac.<br /><br />Are you going to stand before God and complain to God about Mac?<br /><br />No...you will give an account of why you chose to spend your time on this earth complaining 24/7 about Mac!<br /><br />"Beware that root of Bitterness...it will defile many"<br /><br />By the looks of this Blog, it has infected a lot of people!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-77566018125396452552010-10-10T20:34:45.861-04:002010-10-10T20:34:45.861-04:00In all my experiences and they are many, many, man...In all my experiences and they are many, many, many with people, I find that there all have at least two faces and maybe three. The one on the job, the one at church, and then the one at home. Sort of like the three faces of Eve. Its real hard to read some of these since most of us only see the one side and not the other two. Its similar to a fence sitter he looks around and over the area and determines which side is the safest to land. There are others who just sit on the fence and never get down. I'm for one glad we have this blog as we can air out our differences and try to hold each other accountable for our words...some encouraging and some discouraging.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-57772730944499969722010-10-10T19:23:05.586-04:002010-10-10T19:23:05.586-04:00In all my experiences and they are many, many, man...In all my experiences and they are many, many, many with people, I find that there all have at least two faces and maybe three. The one on the job, the one at church, and then the one at home. Sort of like the three faces of Eve. Its real hard to read some of these since most of us only see the one side and not the other two. Its similar to a fence sitter he looks around and over the area and determines which side is the safest to land. There are others who just sit on the fence and never get down. I'm for one glad we have this blog as we can air out our differences and try to hold each other accountable for our words...some encouraging and some discouraging.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-17525378938343152492010-10-10T19:21:12.818-04:002010-10-10T19:21:12.818-04:00"I believe "the other Tom" probably..."I believe "the other Tom" probably is still Catholic because his theology is wacked out."<br /><br />Still lying, Chump.<br /><br />"I'm your pastor, chump."<br /><br />Only in your own delusions, ChumpThe Other Tomnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-44313801456448123772010-10-10T18:53:24.405-04:002010-10-10T18:53:24.405-04:00Ben, the kingdom of God is within you. Jesus is al...Ben, the kingdom of God is within you. Jesus is already here inside saved people. He does not have to appear bodily again until the second coming. He is all seeing and all knowing. As Christians we are sealed with the Holy Spirit the day we accept Him as Savior and Lord. The word if you use is your sentence is incorrect. He is already here ministering to the Saints and also making intercession for us even from heaven. I'm glad we have that assurance and especially I John 1:9 "If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness". I believe we all need that verse on a daily basis whether we blog or not.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-32188318461774642442010-10-10T18:38:23.122-04:002010-10-10T18:38:23.122-04:00Keith...I Cor 6 vs 2&3 "Do ye not know th...Keith...I Cor 6 vs 2&3 "Do ye not know that the saints shall judge the world? and if the world shall be judged by you are ye not worthy to judge the smallest matters? Know ye not that we shall judge angels? how much more things that pertain to this life?" I Cor 5 vs 12 "For what have I to do to judge them also that are without"do not ye judge them that are within?" <br /><br />It appears that there is sufficient judging going on within the church. Thats why a lot of people are staying away and avoiding some of the emotional distress it brings to them and their family members. Sometimes even those that are spiritual are removed simply because they are labeled as "divisive". You can't even discuss Bible doctrines for making someone get upset with you and your belief on a particular matter. There are a lot of folks writing books about what the church is dealing with today and they are having a great time traveling all over their conventions making speaking engagements and selling their books. They choose all types of topics within and without the body of Christ to write. Calvinism, eternal security, how to have a happy home, how to develop your kids, how to grow a church, and yes even how to give speech lessons on delivery, poise, gestures, etc. I heard one mega say that even Satan would be given a second chance. Another one said there was no such thing as the lake of fire that when the individual dies thats it, no longer any existence. What the church has done is to have brought into its operation a mindset of handling the disputes between brethren like the world does. When this occurs it always winds up hurting someone unnecessarily. We are our brothers keeper whether we like it or not. Hope this assist with your question if only a brief answer.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-6742135889262418022010-10-10T18:28:52.050-04:002010-10-10T18:28:52.050-04:00Thankfully, there are many who are in the ministry...Thankfully, there are many who are in the ministry for the right reasons. They can usually be identified by their humbleness. However, many are just looking to be more "successful" among their peers, building their own kingdom/ brand. To be the next Ed Young of Houston or Ed Young Jr.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-9008092558619372072010-10-10T17:42:53.506-04:002010-10-10T17:42:53.506-04:00Ben, make your arguments from NT scripture. Not yo...Ben, make your arguments from NT scripture. Not your opinion.<br /><br />Perhaps you could show us the villa Paul built or the nice chariot John aquired.<br /><br />Thanks.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-42125107699156563222010-10-10T17:28:40.787-04:002010-10-10T17:28:40.787-04:00"Was laughable that Brunson injected into his..."Was laughable that Brunson injected into his message that he had been in Orlando during the week, bought himself a new shirt and tie - then visited the the Town Center where Miss Debbie purchased another new pair of shoes"<br /><br />You don't like Mac when he is in the pulpit and you don't like Mac when he is not in the pulpit. For shame a pastor might buy a shirt and tie or his wife might buy new shoes, again. How sinful it must be to have stuff. Are all the complainers ditching their stuff so they can really have a point to make?<br /><br />Oh, I forgot, its not about the stuff its about how much he makes. How he lived in a friends home for a year. How he built a house in a gated community. All these sinful things.<br /><br />Are the members of the church allowed to have a lot of stuff? Oh, its just pastors who are to be what you think Christ is like.<br /><br />Give me a break.<br /><br />One goods thing about Christ, if He came incarnate today He would head to your neighborhood to minister to you.Bennoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-65376821887859637182010-10-10T17:20:28.434-04:002010-10-10T17:20:28.434-04:00"Do you mean all positions in the world or ju..."Do you mean all positions in the world or just the ones in the Body?"<br /><br />I was thinking of the body, those paid ministers and those in ministry support roles within the church.Bennoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-57430890556873830562010-10-10T16:50:33.532-04:002010-10-10T16:50:33.532-04:00Wow, now preachers apparently belong in prison. T...Wow, now preachers apparently belong in prison. That's a new one. Man, this blog is a joke.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-70449200485174472062010-10-10T16:31:15.023-04:002010-10-10T16:31:15.023-04:00I have been on 3 mission trips. I have seen many ...I have been on 3 mission trips. I have seen many come to Christ, although, I didn't do it, He did. I slept on the ground during one trip. I believe "the other Tom" probably is still Catholic because his theology is wacked out. All you people do is whine whine whine! Why don't you go do something productive. You obviously hate going to church, so go read to someone in the nursing home. Go serve in a shelter. You obviously love your money and treat it as your sustainer, so go do something for YOU. That is who you love.<br /><br />"Keith, I hate to remind you but God allows the individual to discern what is the difference between wheat and tares even in the churches."<br /><br />Book? Chapter? Verse?<br /><br /><br />"PLEASE tell us which church you are a member of so that I know NEVER to enter its doors. I want absolutely NOTHING to do with whatever type of work your "spirit" brings about."<br /><br />I'm your pastor, chump. :)Keithnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-50385732058591414342010-10-10T15:49:59.995-04:002010-10-10T15:49:59.995-04:00http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3GmZfYhrWxg
Check ...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3GmZfYhrWxg<br /><br />Check out this clip about the Lie that you will be blessed if you tithe.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-52926081003059399972010-10-10T15:37:42.977-04:002010-10-10T15:37:42.977-04:00"For those who say the pastor should quit tak..."For those who say the pastor should quit taking a paycheck and work as a tentmaker: do you say the same about all paid positions?"<br /><br />Do you mean all positions in the world or just the ones in the Body?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-32971287513648519392010-10-10T15:21:51.096-04:002010-10-10T15:21:51.096-04:00Listened to the FBCJ 10:30 am service this morning...Listened to the FBCJ 10:30 am service this morning. <br /><br />Was laughable that Brunson injected into his message that he had been in Orlando during the week, bought himself a new shirt and tie - then visited the the Town Center where Miss Debbie purchased another new pair of shoes. <br /><br />Just don't get it - people hurting with the economy and this man stands in a pulpit talking about himself buying personal possessions. No humbleness in thinking about the people who have no money for their basis needs. <br /><br />Of course Miss Debbie will go on her Annual Christmas shopping trip to NYC in December. Ooop's, believe it's called a Mission Trip! <br /><br />Then we have the annual Brunson Family Holy Land Tour with their personal friends. Wow, what a blessed life they live! Yep, this couple really works hard in their ministry at FBCJ. Unbelievable!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-25887768845318396072010-10-10T14:32:17.062-04:002010-10-10T14:32:17.062-04:00Keith, your anger is showing calling anyone a wort...Keith, your anger is showing calling anyone a worthless parasite. You have no idea who is serving God so quit judging from a few words to which you disagree. Not everyone thinks alike and am I glad for that. You sound like you want everyone to be ROBOTS!!! AIN'T GONNA HAPPEN.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-45464754095064315172010-10-10T14:16:08.994-04:002010-10-10T14:16:08.994-04:00Keith, I agree with you "forget about fancy b...Keith, I agree with you "forget about fancy buildings". But, unfortunately, the big shots do not want anything 2nd or 3rd rate. It has to be FIRST CLASS ALL THE WAY. After all, they do have an IMAGE to uphold. How does it look to "other megas" when they visit? Must keep up the APPEARANCES. Along with the expensive dinners, etc. Providing for the widows, orphans, sick, and needy is not part of their agenda.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-23724429858004926262010-10-10T14:08:41.046-04:002010-10-10T14:08:41.046-04:00Keith, I hate to remind you but God allows the ind...Keith, I hate to remind you but God allows the individual to discern what is the difference between wheat and tares even in the churches. Thats why a lot of the so called pastors leave the ministry and some actually go to prison where they belong. God does allow people to judge one another its called the JUDICIAL SYSTEM.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com