tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post6653668328171232048..comments2024-03-23T22:54:58.661-04:00Comments on FBC Jax Watchdogs: Was the Perry Endorsement and Jeffress Media Blitz Part of the FBC Dallas "Media Campaign"?FBC Jax Watchdoghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10740366031265491559noreply@blogger.comBlogger27125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-25046732022334032152011-10-14T20:54:20.098-04:002011-10-14T20:54:20.098-04:00The real problem - with many evangelical and other...The real problem - with many evangelical and other church "leaders" - is that they, and we, as Christians do not understand Christianity - true Christianity. "We" are following the world's approach by thinking in terms of domination of worldly matters, even in national matters. Read Scripture and find which of the World Kingdoms, set up by God, ever had a "Christian" leader. (God does choose our worlds governmental leaders - He says so clearly.) Think of Babylon, Medo-Persia, Greece, and Rome. When the government of Rome was superceded by an ecclesiastic ruler (the Papal leaders) we experienced the dark ages, and only the Reformation could remove it's power. The motivation for the Reformation was Scripture in the hands (hearts or minds) of Godly men, motivated by the Spirit of God. The original Baptist movement in America was sternly against any marriage of politics and church. Today, the majority of Baptist organizations (I cannot refer to them as churches for they ceased long ago to preach the gospel as a priority.) The strongest followers of the world's approach concerning government, inside and outside of the "church" have been Southern Baptists.<br /><br />We need to study Scripture. (As my pastor says, the Bible is not a lazy man's book.) Instead, though, "we" as "Christians" have thought to dominate culture by lobbying and voting and taking political control. This IS NOT GOD'S WAY!<br /><br />(For some of you this may be news.) The Kingdom of God is here now. Jesus brought it. On that great feast of Pentecost, Peter preached what the prophets foretold. The Kingdom, the one not of this world, arrived. If we are really of Christ, then we should know and understand that we are citizens of that Kingdom. That Kingdom is ruled by the Righteousness of Christ, and by the Lord Jesus Christ himself, from the very throne of God. This, I know, is very seldom preached, and hardly ever preached in the majority of Baptist "churches."<br /><br />What is our armour? What is our weapon? Ephesians 6:10-17 "Finally, my brethren, be strong in the Lord, and in the power of his might. Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil. For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places. Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand. Stand therefore, having your loins girt about with truth, and having on the breastplate of righteousness; And your feet shod with the preparation of the gospel of peace;<br />Above all, taking the shield of faith, wherewith ye shall be able to quench all the fiery darts of the wicked. And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God:"<br /><br />and Zechariah 4:6 "Then he answered and spake unto me, saying, This is the word of the LORD unto Zerubbabel, saying, Not by might, nor by power, but by my spirit, saith the LORD of hosts.<br /><br />In ChristAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-3448637208199796942011-10-14T16:54:09.987-04:002011-10-14T16:54:09.987-04:00Anonymous said...
"Isn't it about tim...Anonymous said...<br /> "Isn't it about time for another post on a wicked and evil mega-church pastor? This one is real old."<br /><br />Surely you must know one who you could refer, along with a comment or two?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-13774458462072130112011-10-14T16:25:49.301-04:002011-10-14T16:25:49.301-04:00Sounds like what happens in many Baptist Churches?...Sounds like what happens in many Baptist Churches? (Burn Eternally that is, as Baptist's don't want anyone who asks questions to stay.)<br /><br />"What ends up happening is when you come out of this cult you are so brainwashed that you are going to blood atone for your sins of running and things like that. And they put so much pressure on you to come back or you are going to burn eternally," <br /><br />http://news.yahoo.com/warren-jeffs-wife-breaks-away-arizona-compound-031641864.htmlAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-88372080444413172752011-10-14T12:49:35.135-04:002011-10-14T12:49:35.135-04:00Isn't it about time for another post on a wick...Isn't it about time for another post on a wicked and evil mega-church pastor? This one is real old.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-57862202619185995552011-10-14T08:42:09.575-04:002011-10-14T08:42:09.575-04:00Group calls for investigation:
http://blogs.dalla...Group calls for investigation:<br /><br />http://blogs.dallasobserver.com/unfairpark/2011/10/americans_united_for_separatio.phpAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-2545389827031642872011-10-14T08:39:42.291-04:002011-10-14T08:39:42.291-04:00Just as some blacks label any criticism as racism,...Just as some blacks label any criticism as racism, some Christians label any criticism as persecution against Christians. It gets old.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-52196684960562736282011-10-13T22:48:56.008-04:002011-10-13T22:48:56.008-04:00Persecution Syndrome:
"Anita Perry: Husband...Persecution Syndrome: <br /><br />"Anita Perry: Husband Rick Perry "brutalized" by media, the GOP because of his faith "<br /> <a href="http://trailblazersblog.dallasnews.com/archives/2011/10/anita-perry-husband-rick-perry.html" rel="nofollow">Story and Video</a>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-44039818545470458312011-10-13T20:30:21.703-04:002011-10-13T20:30:21.703-04:00We may not agree with Bro. Jeffress but we have to...We may not agree with Bro. Jeffress but we have to admit he is a good strategist. W.D. U remind me of an old country "Don't U ever get tired of hurting me" At least that is what some may say. I however think U are doing a good thing pointing out some of the absurd things some of my fellow pastors are doing.Bojachttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11409639762166464751noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-18989935775641707902011-10-13T18:35:18.076-04:002011-10-13T18:35:18.076-04:00For Lovers of Cain
"Cain's 9-9-9 tax pla...For Lovers of Cain<br /><br />"Cain's 9-9-9 tax plan is simple: you'll simply pay more"<br /><br />Just another new tax - a Federal Sales Tax and another Bureaucracy. <br /><br />For Lovers of Romney<br /><br /> Romneycare was the inspiration of Obamacare.<br /><br />For Perry Lovers<br /><br /> "Texas Enterprise Fund's $440 million in taxpayer grants" just like Obama's Stimulus program both with political paybacks.<br />http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970203791904576606852823058940.html<br /><br /><br />So remind me , what is the difference between a Democ Rat and a Republ I Can (too)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-64582299371405388612011-10-13T18:20:06.810-04:002011-10-13T18:20:06.810-04:00Americans United for Separation of Church and Stat...Americans United for Separation of Church and State has asked the IRS to investigate First Baptist Church of Dallas and its pastor for posting videos that endorse a presidential candidate, but the pastor isn't concerned aboutAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-18568928900809804012011-10-13T14:26:53.116-04:002011-10-13T14:26:53.116-04:00This is an amazing video that gives a glimpse into...This is an amazing video that gives a glimpse into where we are....and it is extremly funny!<br /><br />http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K6ENgXiZO0k&feature=relatedAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-13758196466581189342011-10-13T04:59:16.452-04:002011-10-13T04:59:16.452-04:00I was a member of FBC-WF for a short time while Je...I was a member of FBC-WF for a short time while Jeffress was CEO (I mean pastor). He had led the church to cut its Cooperative giving from 15% when Morris Chapman left to 7 or 8% in 1997. Not sure what is was when he left, but it was all calculated in order for the church to focus more upon itself. Missions did not get mentioned once during the month of December when it is typically mentioned in SB churches. <br />FBC-Dallas gave IMB more than 1 million dollars once when Mac Brunson was pastor. That will NEVER happen while Jeffress is pastor.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-56125251961683774782011-10-13T02:02:50.772-04:002011-10-13T02:02:50.772-04:00Much better post..that was exactly my issue with t...Much better post..that was exactly my issue with the endorsement. Why Perry and not Cain? I am NOT wanting some minister throwing an endorsement behind a candidate when it is not one I especially trust. I guess Jeffress does not to remember "the domain" problem had with Perry and "the interstate corridor land deal."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-38875480611511365812011-10-13T00:08:29.320-04:002011-10-13T00:08:29.320-04:00Many senior pastors cannot lead their congregation...Many senior pastors cannot lead their congregations out of wet paper sacks, much less into the future to reach their cities for Christ.<br /><br />Jeffress was senior pastor of FBC-Wichita Falls prior to FBC-Dallas. The WF church also used yard signs as part of its "marketing" (for lack of a better word) during his tenure there; the real gain: residents of WF could see how far/wide members of FBC-WF lived over the community and knew when special events were scheduled (not much else, really; lots of TV ads, but manages a local cable channel and employs a media/missions minister).<br /><br />While at FBC-WF, Jeffress and others led the congregation to building a new sanctuary (previous one close to 100 years old). A well-organized media campaign was included toward the end of the construction project--along with the start of new ministries. Today, Jeffress has moved on but FBC-WF has grown considerably--and it paid off the $21 million construction project in about 4 years (much money among the membership there).<br /><br />Jeffress' executive pastor at FBC-D served with him in a similar staff role at FBC-WF.<br /><br />Read the history: when Criswell followed the much-loved/respected Truett years ago at FBC-D, major work needed to be done. What was begun was similar to what it sounds like Jeffress is doing now. Just interesting. Read the history; it informs the future and the present.<br /><br />No horse in this race.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-29169107780751912662011-10-12T20:30:57.750-04:002011-10-12T20:30:57.750-04:00Mega churches give me the creeps anymore. So fake!...Mega churches give me the creeps anymore. So fake!<br /><br />He is competing with Prestonwood...another fake church.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-49887386753639297732011-10-12T20:29:34.755-04:002011-10-12T20:29:34.755-04:00It amazes me how many people cannot see through th...It amazes me how many people cannot see through these guys. <br /><br />You want proof they don't have credibility anymore? Look no further than the current White House.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-44197214334252441312011-10-12T20:26:43.941-04:002011-10-12T20:26:43.941-04:00BTW, I don't even like him personally or in th...BTW, I don't even like him personally or in the pulpit, just observing how he has gotten the upper hand on all those who disparage him.<br /><br />October 12, 2011 8:56 AM<br /><br /> HUH? You mean he got the upper hand playing the world's game? I say no thanks to that!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-74391658462650133492011-10-12T13:09:14.848-04:002011-10-12T13:09:14.848-04:00Of course it is all orchestrated. If you don'...Of course it is all orchestrated. If you don't think it is, then either you have never known a mega-church pastor or attended one of their churches. The saddest part is that they are giving all pastors a bad name and then who will you call when you need a pastor in a time of crisis? You certainly don't have to worry about calling a mega-pastor because you'd never get through to him and he would never come.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-62271996492233864902011-10-12T12:53:54.500-04:002011-10-12T12:53:54.500-04:00Good post, WD.
KyleGood post, WD.<br />KyleAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-77348054278887650322011-10-12T12:47:36.731-04:002011-10-12T12:47:36.731-04:00Wonder if any of the members pulled up their yard ...Wonder if any of the members pulled up their yard signs after last weekend?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-17228032840852348642011-10-12T12:44:02.887-04:002011-10-12T12:44:02.887-04:00As a former insider at FBD, I can assure you that ...As a former insider at FBD, I can assure you that EVERYTHING Robert Jeffress has done since 2007 has been related to the fundamental transformation of the church (and not in a good way to those of us who have left).<br /><br />This is proven by their staff selections, music format, the types of new members they seek. <br />Much energy is devoted to "creating" the kind of experience they want people to believe is authentically taking place when they come to church. However, it is all calculated and orchestrated. And yes, the media campaigns fit right into that strategy.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-15845136531257282122011-10-12T12:37:59.641-04:002011-10-12T12:37:59.641-04:00Descriptions like "godly" get thrown aro...Descriptions like "godly" get thrown around and can mean whatever that person wants them to mean.<br /><br />All this godly speak around will show up in the history books desplaying a person like bush or obama will be viewed as a godly individual. Sort of like our for fauthers are thought of as godly but some of the worse abusers of humanity. It is ment to through you off, jeffress is doing a good job.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-15092225011675045112011-10-12T12:14:32.506-04:002011-10-12T12:14:32.506-04:00Kool-Aid
Kool-Aid
Taste Great
You'll love Koo...Kool-Aid<br />Kool-Aid <br />Taste Great<br />You'll love Kool-Aid<br />Can't Wait.....<br /><br /><br />I'll take the Red Sign<br /><br />"Hide it under a Bushel? NO! I am going to let it shine!"<br /><br />and that Black Bikini...<br /><br />Where's Miss Texas when you need a boost?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-88135538681910311122011-10-12T11:14:16.513-04:002011-10-12T11:14:16.513-04:00Curiously, the sign in the picture says "We f...Curiously, the sign in the picture says "We found a CHURCH we can believe in." Aside from all the red flags that raises about treating a church as a deity, you have to wonder where God is in their minds. Is he there at all?Nadinenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-13472158889269006052011-10-12T08:58:56.576-04:002011-10-12T08:58:56.576-04:00God used "Media" to further His message....God used "Media" to further His message.<br /><br />The Rainbow<br /><br />"Fire" on Mt. Carmel<br /><br />The Star of Bethlehem<br /><br />and the list goes on..<br /><br />Thank you Pastor!<br /><br />As the song says, "Hide it under a Bushel? NO! I am going to let it shine!"Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com