tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post7392544657964835886..comments2024-03-07T00:24:23.674-05:00Comments on FBC Jax Watchdogs: Caner's Comeback Almost Complete - Will Speak to Students at FBC Jax Pastor's ConferenceFBC Jax Watchdoghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10740366031265491559noreply@blogger.comBlogger197125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-11119742738822548502012-01-19T01:52:14.436-05:002012-01-19T01:52:14.436-05:00I'm so late to this forum but I must admit tha...I'm so late to this forum but I must admit that I just heard the almost unbelievable news of the Ergun Caner controversy. I've been reading about it and am so grieved to hear that this man that I so enjoyed hearing on the John <br />Ankerberg Show was a fraud. Then more grieved still that the responsible members of the Body of Christ cannot discern the difference between forgiving a fallible brother from applying the necessary discipline of removal from leadership responsibilities of that brother. <br />Simon the magician was quite gifted and apparently impressed no small number of followers but he was rebuked for wanting to have the ability to give the Holy Spirit thru laying of hands. There is a right way and wrong way of spreading the gospel and as the world watches us we need to keep our vessels (esp those that have the church sanction) pure, so as not to give the enemies of the Lord occasion to blaspheme him. <br />Truly, it is a sad time for the church as the world watches us stumble in darkness and Satan snickers with glee. I hope this lack of discernment is not as pervasive as it seems to be.blessedpbhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00680217138135276066noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-47686364991966350402011-01-23T18:24:42.625-05:002011-01-23T18:24:42.625-05:00How hard is it to offer a sincere apology, spend s...How hard is it to offer a sincere apology, spend some time in repentence, and then move on?<br /><br />Peter did it.<br /><br />Paul was mean spirited Pharisee before he came to Christ. Yet later he had to rebuke Peter.<br /><br />We've all had to take stock of our life especially when wickedness is laid bare to the world.<br /><br />It would be wrong not to accept him back into the fellowship, but as it is, and scripturally supported, we cannot.<br /><br />It's not about forgiveness. I feel certain the great majority of us are more than willing to forgive. All he has to do is repent and ask our forgiveness. <br /><br />Pride goes before destruction...Katienoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-54421018311196214742011-01-21T12:14:01.034-05:002011-01-21T12:14:01.034-05:00'I really wonder why they stand for those who ...'I really wonder why they stand for those who need correcting vs standing against those of us who demand transparency and biblical truths. "<br /><br />It is quite simple. For the last 30 years, the focus in the SBC has been on obeying human authority in the Body instead of on the priesthood of believer and soul competency previously taught.<br /><br />We have an entire generation of people who have been brainwashed into believing there really is human authority in the Body of Christ. The scriptural teaching of <br /> 'not so among you' or "the greatest among you are the lowliest servants of all" is gone. Mere humans have sought to replace the Holy Spirit.<br /><br />Mac was taught to think this way by his mentors. As were many other paid professional Christians in the SBC. <br /><br />This only results in people not studying on their own and following man instead of Christ. Their very maturity in Christ is stunted by men who elevate themselves instead of Christ.<br /><br />The bottomline is that you will not stand before the Lord and tell Him that Mac taught you something so it must be right. You, alone, are responsible for what you believe and what you do and who you support.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-84249109303527082062011-01-21T09:49:51.189-05:002011-01-21T09:49:51.189-05:00This also was from Doug's email to me;
"...This also was from Doug's email to me;<br /><br />"Baptist, especially the Georgia Baptist Convention and all of Robert White, Mike Everson, Gerald Harris, Tony Dickerson, Wayne Robertson, Hamrick, Evers, .. et al, disciples who are out of control and allow many out of control men to speak to Georgians, need to heed some insight from their own bible concerning disciplining all those who need disciplining ( including Everson, Caner, and the likes)<br /><br />I think of this verse concerning the issues now within the Baptist denomination;<br /> <br />"He who spareth the rod hateth his son: but he that loveth him correcteth him betimes" (Proverbs 13:24) <br />and "Withhold not correction from a child: for if thou strike him with the rod, he shall not die. Thou shalt beat him with the rod, and deliver his soul from hell." (Proverbs 23:13-14)<br /><br />The Baptist are in need of correcting those that are an ABOMINATION to Christ Kingdom!<br /><br />I really wonder why they stand for those who need correcting vs standing against those of us who demand transparency and biblical truths. <br /><br />I am praying for discernment concerning these issue and others that are now overwhelming reality for us within the Christian community and will do as GOD direct me in the future. It is not for us to correct these men, it is only something GOD can change. But we must be willing vessels, in a Christ like way and manner, to expose whatever needs to be exposed so that others can make their own choices. I have made mine which is to stay as far away from these men as I know. <br /><br />Their messages are now falling on deaf ears and will continue to do so as long as there is no accountability from the leadership and by the leadership within the Baptist denomination.<br /> <br /> ..............................Dr Whohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16048200559040261140noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-56801481172108923862011-01-20T17:59:32.366-05:002011-01-20T17:59:32.366-05:00Peter Lumpkins has a new post about the conference...Peter Lumpkins has a new post about the conference, but he will not allow you to ask any hard questions about Ergun Caner.<br /><br />So much for seekers of truth. <br /><br />Try posting these questions on his site: <br /><br />It is not legalistic to ask Ergun to come clean and set the record straight on his lies.<br /><br />When did he come to America? 1978, 1979, 1969, 1970???<br /><br />Who and when did he debate in 13 countries and 35 states?<br /><br />Did he watch Dukes of Hazard in Turkey?<br /><br />How was he trained in Jihad?<br /><br />Did he grow up in Turkey, near the Turkish-Iraqi border?<br /><br />Man!!! just look at the Ergun file<br />http://babyloniansquirrel.blogspot.com/2010/05/caner-file.html<br /><br />What are these high school student to think?<br /><br />IF Ergun would have repented and set the record straight we wouldn't be talking about him.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-15079813178139649412011-01-20T17:28:27.400-05:002011-01-20T17:28:27.400-05:00"YOU NEED TO GET A LIFE!!!!"
can you he..."YOU NEED TO GET A LIFE!!!!"<br /> can you help me, if you can I will provide my phone #.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-80351185889002916222011-01-20T16:30:07.860-05:002011-01-20T16:30:07.860-05:00This is a partial text from Doug that I received t...This is a partial text from Doug that I received today.<br /><br /> .......................<br />Just like Parents are responsible for their kids and actions thereafter, <br /><br />The leadership of the Southern Baptist Convention should be held responsible for the actions of those who are members. It is the leadership that accepts this type of behavior and therefore should hold the burden for allowing all these men who are exposed to continue with their fake ministries and shows. <br /><br />Until the membership - and as a whole group - within the Baptist denomination demands better choices and hold these men accountable with actions in accordance to and within Matthew 18 and 1st Timothy 5: wich says: <br /><br />19 Against an elder receive not an accusation, but before two or three witnesses. <br /><br />20 Them that sin rebuke before all, that others also may fear. <br /><br />21 I charge thee before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, and the elect angels, that thou observe these things without preferring one before another, doing nothing by partiality. <br /><br />22 Lay hands suddenly on no man, neither be partaker of other men's sins: keep thyself pure. <br /> <br />.....then the members of this Baptist faith are being lead by shepard's who are truly tares, wolves, and Pharisees. <br /><br />The leaders of this denomination and of all these State Conventions are the bearers of answering to Christ one day and now have the bloody hands for allowing all these men to continue deceiving and destroying Christ word and testimony for all those who choose to follow him and for those who desire to worship him. <br /><br />I choose to Follow Christ, Not Man. <br /><br />The SBC, GBC ,and all other state convention leadership should prayerfully consider whether or not they are truly Christ focused vs MAN focused because they are losing the battle whether they want to believe it or not, and I am not talking about just money.<br /><br />Furthermore, where I live the Georgia Baptist Convention has become the resting ground for many of the corrupt now in the ministry and is in the midst of a major battle for power looming against the current leadership - both the silent and exposed - for decision which are detrimental to the testimony of Christ. They have lost their focus and have seeded the secular concepts into the Christian faith.<br /> <br /> ....................Dr Whohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16048200559040261140noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-24817709760401795962011-01-20T14:58:21.865-05:002011-01-20T14:58:21.865-05:00......" It will be interesting to see who his........." It will be interesting to see who his replacement is. Maby it will be a caner lieutenant. "<br /><br />January 20, 2011 12:13 PM<br /><br />Or Ergun Caner himself ?? Hmmmm. Chris Eppling is given a position at T-M College, Ergun's home is for sale, maybe they're bringing Ergun to speak to the Youth as sort of a "dry run" to see how well he'll be received. <br /><br />This smacks of SBC cronyism. Everybody knows the former FBC Pastor, Jerry Vines, and the current FBC Pastor, Mac Brunson are heavily vested in EC. Their reputations are on the line.Sweet Tea Drinkernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-6031364370118816702011-01-20T14:51:34.723-05:002011-01-20T14:51:34.723-05:00"YOU NEED TO GET A LIFE!!!!"
YOU NEED T..."YOU NEED TO GET A LIFE!!!!"<br /><br />YOU NEED TO GET A CALENDER!!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-69605464737887599612011-01-20T14:50:18.376-05:002011-01-20T14:50:18.376-05:00"NEWS FLASH.....THIS IS 2010!!!"
Posted..."NEWS FLASH.....THIS IS 2010!!!"<br /><br />Posted on January 19,2011<br /><br />You my friend are a MORON!!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-77876851853363867752011-01-20T12:13:19.217-05:002011-01-20T12:13:19.217-05:00the question is was he politely asked to move on o...the question is was he politely asked to move on or was it his choice.<br /><br />his hand was probally too far in the cookie jar. It will be interesting to see who his replacement is. Maby it will be a caner lieutenant.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-56284751966806943242011-01-20T12:12:36.409-05:002011-01-20T12:12:36.409-05:00The folks at FBC JAX should have a huge problem th...The folks at FBC JAX should have a huge problem that the unrepenant, Ergun Caner, is going to speak at their church.<br /><br />If you are a member of FBC Jax, do you have a problem with Ergun speaking to the youth? He has told many of the same lies over and over and over again and has not repented nor has he set the record straight. <br /><br /><br />For those who are crying about moving on and forgiving, YES--if he repents.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-12395802042751729132011-01-20T11:33:51.254-05:002011-01-20T11:33:51.254-05:00Word is that he is heading to Truett-McConnell Col...Word is that he is heading to Truett-McConnell College and has taken a position there, where Ergun's brother Emir is the president.FBC Jax Watchdoghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10740366031265491559noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-27155039617775774842011-01-20T11:31:40.436-05:002011-01-20T11:31:40.436-05:00"Get on this Gospel Train!!!
January 16, 201..."Get on this Gospel Train!!!<br /><br />January 16, 2011 7:32 AM<br /><br />Appears our youth director wanted to get off the Gospel Train @ FBCJ . . .Smart man, but question is was he politely asked to move on or was it his choice.<br />Members will never know the real truth. There will be gooey words about him leaving - been there, heard it before.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-80739534014598334482011-01-20T09:59:54.376-05:002011-01-20T09:59:54.376-05:00Anon 5:55pm: Your quote was from Khan in Star Tre...Anon 5:55pm: Your quote was from Khan in Star Trek - the Movie...right?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-86089765905527939462011-01-20T08:50:27.901-05:002011-01-20T08:50:27.901-05:00So glad to have Caner back on the scene!So glad to have Caner back on the scene!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-33864208996084888782011-01-20T06:11:00.020-05:002011-01-20T06:11:00.020-05:00"So like, was the Holy Spirit involved with y..."So like, was the Holy Spirit involved with your decision? Or was it just some persuasive talker that prompted your decision?"<br /><br />Exactly. The problem could be this person thinks what Caner is and does, represents what it means to be a follower of Christ. That is a follower of man or this person would have given Christ the credit.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-31133928552802341242011-01-20T00:03:47.507-05:002011-01-20T00:03:47.507-05:00It is being reported that FBC Jax's high schoo...It is being reported that FBC Jax's high school youth group pastor, Rev. Eppling, is leaving.<br /><br />January 19, 2011 11:01 PM<br /><br />I hate to hear this. Rev Eppling is a good man, and has a servant's heart for our young people. We love you Rev Eppling. We'll be praying for you and your family.FBC Jax Parentnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-86628729120539073602011-01-19T23:52:55.352-05:002011-01-19T23:52:55.352-05:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-88472072794094265942011-01-19T23:25:47.768-05:002011-01-19T23:25:47.768-05:00Maybe Mac Brunson and Ergun Caner can now publish ...Maybe Mac Brunson and Ergun Caner can now publish the updated version of their book:<br /><br /><a href="http://books.google.com/books?id=sYQEGoi9h5cC&lpg=PP1&dq=ergun%20caner%20mac%20brunson&pg=PP1#v=onepage&q&f=false" rel="nofollow">Google Books > Why Churches Die: Diagnosing Lethal Poisons in the Body of Christ [2005] By Mac Brunson, Ergun Caner</a>Rameshhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09728392311602332613noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-79988145378450829082011-01-19T23:11:16.512-05:002011-01-19T23:11:16.512-05:00Anonymous said...
LEAVE HIM ALONE!!
I came to Ch...Anonymous said... <br />LEAVE HIM ALONE!!<br /><br />I came to Christ thru his preaching, he is funny, he is honest, he is bold, he is captivating....Everthing that YOU are not.<br /><br />PLEASE stop prosecuting him for his past.<br /><br />XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX<br /><br />So like, was the Holy Spirit involved with your decision? Or was it just some persuasive talker that prompted your decision?<br /><br />This business of Ergun Caner....... it causes HIS name to stink. That maam/sir, is serious.<br /><br />IT ain't about poor Ergun. It is about HIS name and HIS reputation, HIS word and majesty. Ergun is blowing stink all over the place with unrepentant lying.<br /><br />These SBC brotherhood-lums who shield him are no better, they facilitate the stench.<br /><br />Shame on Brunson for fomenting this kind of behaviour and condoning this breach of integrity in a pulpit. Tacit approval is still approval.<br /><br />If Brunson were to rebuke him, he might accidentally bump the search light on his actions against one of his members. YOu know, that trespass order and public name calling he used on Tom. I think Macky will be silent on this and other embarassing things.<br /> Cowardice in cuff links.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-83379603595865559432011-01-19T23:01:35.624-05:002011-01-19T23:01:35.624-05:00It is being reported that FBC Jax's high schoo...It is being reported that FBC Jax's high school youth group pastor, Rev. Eppling, is leaving.Anonymous FBCJax Insidernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-36012819954156005122011-01-19T22:23:50.135-05:002011-01-19T22:23:50.135-05:00Judas followed Jesus around for three years. He vi...Judas followed Jesus around for three years. He visited, witnessed for the Lord, probably baptised some people...but while he was part of the team he was LOST. We should all learn that just because one is on the team and shows up at church doesn't mean anything anymore. Be a fruit inspector and watch not only what they do, but everything that they say on or off the campus.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-66991516888844743092011-01-19T22:18:53.027-05:002011-01-19T22:18:53.027-05:00Last days, end of days are upon us. Good will be e...Last days, end of days are upon us. Good will be evil, evil will be good. Get use to it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-9383205101721230442011-01-19T21:55:46.348-05:002011-01-19T21:55:46.348-05:00He tasks me! He tasks me, and I shall have him! I&...He tasks me! He tasks me, and I shall have him! I'll chase him round the Moons of Nibia, and round the Antares Maelstrom, and round perdition's flames before I give him up!WishIhadknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12487727353887788291noreply@blogger.com