tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post7891227925226196790..comments2024-03-23T22:54:58.661-04:00Comments on FBC Jax Watchdogs: And the Sun Stood Still, and the Moon StayedFBC Jax Watchdoghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10740366031265491559noreply@blogger.comBlogger27125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-88974387080407931862015-09-07T12:32:08.273-04:002015-09-07T12:32:08.273-04:00Denominations are the problem. Why so many churche...Denominations are the problem. Why so many churches. Most are made up by men rather than God and that is why the gospel is not being spread as it was under Jonathon Edwards, Wesley brothers, Spurgeon and others who were not interest in fame and fortune!!! Where are the evangelists today???Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-90431903851326154922015-09-07T12:28:32.459-04:002015-09-07T12:28:32.459-04:00Tom while the Nation of Israel may have rejected J...Tom while the Nation of Israel may have rejected Jesus in the past and the present doesn't have anything to do with the future. It's their land as God gave it to them. They will accept Him when He returns.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-72140638497063438632015-09-07T09:07:31.549-04:002015-09-07T09:07:31.549-04:00Let God be true and every man a LIAR!! Exactly. T...Let God be true and every man a LIAR!! Exactly. That's what this blog is all about. Those men up there preaching are lying about God and religion and the magic book.FBC Jax Watchdoghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10740366031265491559noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-11382411164828937412015-09-07T09:05:41.889-04:002015-09-07T09:05:41.889-04:00The "nation of Israel" has rejected Jesu...The "nation of Israel" has rejected Jesus as the Messiah and absolutely will never believe that he is Jehovah God, the great I Am, the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. No one disagrees with your beliefs about Jesus more than the Jews. And it's "their land?" Tell that to the Palestinians who lived there for centuries and whose God told them its their land. Uh oh. "Leave your homes, land and businessess or die, our loving and just God says this is our land." <br /><br />And just because there is obviously a Creator, it doesn't mean he/she is the God of the Muslims, or of the Jehovah Witnesses, or Mormons, or Catholics or fundamentalist Christians. You can believe anything you want about this Creator, but thankfully, it doesn't make it true. All those other faiths mentioned above, you and I don't believe everything they do. No matter how much they believe it or what their holy book says. And if you were born in Iran, there is a 99% chance you wouldn't be a Christian. Or if you were born in Spain, you'd probably be a Catholic. So stating what you believe, no matter how outrageous it is, does not "prove" anything or convince anyone but your small circle of like minded people, of anything. It's a religion. And it's brought nothing but harm to nations, cultures and families throughout history. No discoveries, no advances in medicine or technology, no roads, no transportation, nothing. But people do go to war over it. Literally and figuratively. Moderate Christians need to speak up before the fundies kill the entire faith and lose any and all credibility and respect they might still enjoy in society.FBC Jax Watchdoghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10740366031265491559noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-22040377739769303902015-09-07T08:36:24.782-04:002015-09-07T08:36:24.782-04:00Absolutely. That is so simple when you compare the...Absolutely. That is so simple when you compare the universe God made, the unique structure of human anatomy, the value that God placed on all mankind by dying in their place. The thread of the issue of blood throughout the Bible and that salvation is free especially during these last days. One last thing is the nation of Israel...it is their land forever and has been for over 3000 years, but their movement back in May 1948 seals the prophecy. Faith can take you farther than you can imagine. Paul went from a killer of Christians to a disciple and follower like no other person. Yes. I'm a believer and also believe Jonah was swallowed by a whale.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-72095163880719934642015-09-07T07:48:26.603-04:002015-09-07T07:48:26.603-04:00Are you saying you actually believe the sun stood ...Are you saying you actually believe the sun stood still and the moon stayed? You believe that happened? Wow. FBC Jax Watchdoghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10740366031265491559noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-65146365996930076402015-09-06T22:51:20.008-04:002015-09-06T22:51:20.008-04:00I recall that historians did not believe Belshazza...I recall that historians did not believe Belshazzar was a real person, however archeologists discovered a golden chariot with his name on it not too long ago. Additionally, chariots have also been found in the Red Sea. Once one starts denying what is truth they become truths unto themselves. Let God be true and every man a LIAR!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-50584666621571634762015-09-06T17:32:11.524-04:002015-09-06T17:32:11.524-04:00Why do people keep taking the bible literally?? Wh...Why do people keep taking the bible literally?? Whyyyyyy? lmaoSerena763https://www.blogger.com/profile/11282928412379923329noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-42044238294533746692015-09-03T17:02:43.132-04:002015-09-03T17:02:43.132-04:00I think it is important to remember that the Penta...I think it is important to remember that the Pentateuch was penned during the Babylonian exile, ca 500 BC +/-, after the destruction of the temple and its contents. That means that, at best, it was recreated from memory from earlier scrolls, and at worst was created whole cloth. I believe that the lack of memory is why Genesis suggests that people lived for multiple centuries, reproducing into their second century of life, etc. And the tales that are told are not unique to the Genesis account, but are similar to the creation stories extant at the time, attributable to other gods. The distinction is that the God of the Israelites was a god of love who cared for and interacted with his people and did not require human sacrifice.Arcenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-64906309184194292312015-09-03T15:00:25.529-04:002015-09-03T15:00:25.529-04:00No, this is not a weird corner......it's just ...No, this is not a weird corner......it's just saying a lot of stuff those of us stuck in fundamentalist areas of the South can't say without being called heathens or pagans....this is a place for thinking Christians. The Govteachhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07705560819973282422noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-62473084294567037992015-09-03T09:25:48.232-04:002015-09-03T09:25:48.232-04:00Amen.Amen.Rameshhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09728392311602332613noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-12878369898970505502015-09-03T08:50:17.061-04:002015-09-03T08:50:17.061-04:00I'm not nearly as hung up on "whether&quo...I'm not nearly as hung up on "whether" these things happened as I am that God is ABLE to bring them about anytime, using anyone or anything, and in any way He chooses. <br /><br />Beyond that, it accomplishes nothing (except fallout) for pulpiteers to try and use specific acts as a definer of faith or divider of believers.<br /><br />Let God be God, and hold Him in the place of "otherness" from our nitpickiness.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-89708553478188369682015-09-03T08:15:20.949-04:002015-09-03T08:15:20.949-04:00Tom Kelly - I've read and re-read your comment...Tom Kelly - I've read and re-read your comments. Very well done. As a matter of fact, if all Christians interacted like you, I doubt I would have ever needed to post these recent topics. Thanks for your well reasoned and considerate views.FBC Jax Watchdoghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10740366031265491559noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-47137041504285358682015-09-03T00:29:26.671-04:002015-09-03T00:29:26.671-04:00What a weird little corner of the web this is.
Ma...What a weird little corner of the web this is.<br /><br />Man! Haha!!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-75364473312054294582015-09-03T00:20:14.327-04:002015-09-03T00:20:14.327-04:00Here is an interesting discussion that explores ne...Here is an interesting discussion that explores newton's contribution and other aspects: <a href="http://www.chomsky.info/debates/20060301.htm" rel="nofollow">Science in the Dock, Discussion with Noam Chomsky, Lawrence Krauss & Sean M. Carroll</a>.<br /><br />Lot of what we think science is, is not.<br /><br />:)Rameshhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09728392311602332613noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-23782394151952610682015-09-02T23:52:21.149-04:002015-09-02T23:52:21.149-04:00Tom, I think we're in agreement here, but the ...Tom, I think we're in agreement here, but the point remains: there is no evidence to suggest the "sun stood still", and the consequences of such a deceleration - consequences we understand now that the writer surely did not - suggest the narrative is a complete fable. If doubt in this story causes someone to doubt their faith in Jesus, then, well, they have little faith I suppose. <br /><br />Thanks for the correction on reference to gravity - yes, of course, the spinning has nothing to do with the existence of gravity, except that those on the earth would feel the effects of their kinetic energy and momentum propelling them on a tangent off of the earth when God stopped it from spinning. They would still feel the effects of attractive gravitational force between them and the earth as defined by Newton's universal law of gravity.FBC Jax Watchdoghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10740366031265491559noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-23868218502242097332015-09-02T22:55:40.637-04:002015-09-02T22:55:40.637-04:00WD,
On another one of your favorite topics, here&#...WD,<br />On another one of your favorite topics, here's a story that you might find interesting. Some poor doctrines can actually be deadly...<br /><br />http://www.wmcactionnews5.com/story/29937715/tn-man-kills-wife-over-tithe-money-officials-say<br />Tom Kelleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07843658496931624572noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-83246421405341845632015-09-02T22:46:58.259-04:002015-09-02T22:46:58.259-04:00It's absolutely true that one does not have to...It's absolutely true that one does not have to believe in inerrancy to be a Christian, as salvation is based solely on faith in Jesus Christ.<br /><br />I do think it is reasonable to consider whether questioning the reliability of some events recorded in the Bible might also call into question the reliability of passages of the Bible that teach about Jesus (especially miracles directly associated with salvation, like His resurrection). But if one's faith in Christ is not shaken by such questions, I think that can be a sign of a strong and healthy faith in Him. <br /><br />I also think that for anyone who believes in Jesus it is just as reasonable to believe in all of the Bible, even those events that seem implausible or impossible, as a God who can create the world is surely capable of doing any of the other things attributed to Him. But, again, being a Christian does not require believing in a particular doctrine about the Bible (inerrancy) or anything other than the most basic teachings of the gospel (who Jesus is and what He did to secure our salvation). Indeed, anyone who says otherwise is misleading people.<br /><br />One correct on the science part, though. gravity is a result by an object's mass, not it's rotation. If the Earth stopped rotating, it would still have gravity. But concerning the main point, yeah, if the Earth suddenly stopped rotating, the expected impacts would be catastrophic, based on the laws of nature. <br /><br />(However, when one is talking about a supernatural event, it is by definition a suspension of the laws of nature. Surely, if He wanted to, God could stop the Earth from rotating and also stop the normal consequences of such an event. For that matter, surely He knows how to make the sun "stand still" without stopping the Earth's rotation. I realize that just because He could do it, that doesn't mean He actually did do it. And it doesn't matter to me if a person believes He did do it or not, in terms of that person's salvation or their personal devotion to Jesus. I'm just saying it that, for me personally, having already accepted the idea of an all-powerful Creator who came to Earth as a man to die for my sins and be resurrected so I could have eternal life, it doesn't take any more faith to believe that God somehow made the sun and moon "stand still," or that He made a donkey talk, or that a snake talked to Eve, or that an ax head floated, or that people all spoke one language and tried to build some sort of tower sand God confused their languages, or anything else in the Bible.Tom Kelleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07843658496931624572noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-85175507852965419762015-09-02T19:35:03.830-04:002015-09-02T19:35:03.830-04:00Anon - My post directly above was in response to y...Anon - My post directly above was in response to your latest post, which I did read, but for some reason was lost when I tried to publish it. Sorry about that. I did not mean to delete it.FBC Jax Watchdoghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10740366031265491559noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-77564755392171470992015-09-02T18:58:42.715-04:002015-09-02T18:58:42.715-04:00anon - Okay. I think we may be agreeing on more th...anon - Okay. I think we may be agreeing on more than we initially thought. I agree the resurrection is a supernatural event that, like you, I believe based on the objective evidence surrounding it, as well as it being a matter of faith. I still maintain that I don't have to believe every other event that is unexplainable if I believe in the resurrection. I think that is where the charlatans and con men and religious fanatics come in. They argue that if you believe in something as supernatural and miraculous as a virgin birth and resurrection from the dead, then you have to also believe all the other nonsense they build their particular brand of religion around.FBC Jax Watchdoghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10740366031265491559noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-90466148092456717572015-09-02T17:33:55.560-04:002015-09-02T17:33:55.560-04:00anon 5:03 - We will address some of those other th...anon 5:03 - We will address some of those other things you refer to that God does in future posts. (Genocide, infancticide, favoritism, lack of justice, lack of equal protection, etc.) I know Christianity is not based on logic and reason. We all know that! However, charlatans and fundamentalist trying to ram their dogma and theology down my throat or I can't be a Christian, is only hurting their own cause. And is driving away the next generation of Christians. And they are blaming it on the Supreme Court. I don't know that the resurrection didn't occur. In faith, I believe it did. But I do know when a preacher is lying about tithing, works, inerrancy, etc. That is why you haven't seen me challenge miracles in general or the virgin birth or resurrection for example. Those are matters of faith. Talking donkeys, and the sun standing still and different languages because men were going to reach heaven by building a tower, are not matters of faith. They are nonsense.FBC Jax Watchdoghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10740366031265491559noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-91603147883391559442015-09-02T17:28:13.339-04:002015-09-02T17:28:13.339-04:00anon 4:48: I think some supernatural events are po...anon 4:48: I think some supernatural events are possible and make sense to the plan of salvation. Talking donkeys, the tower of babel and the sun standing still are nonsense I will never accept. Please don't paint your faith into that corner by trying to convince me that since all of that is nonsense, therefore, Jesus is nonsense too. I'm not there yet. Are you trying to help me get there?FBC Jax Watchdoghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10740366031265491559noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-19851260070128154842015-09-02T17:25:08.276-04:002015-09-02T17:25:08.276-04:00Anon 4:26: Jesus could be resurrected from the de...Anon 4:26: Jesus could be resurrected from the dead without stopping the earth from spinning on its axis. Why do you keep trying to weaken my faith in his resurrection? FBC Jax Watchdoghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10740366031265491559noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-35955903812401279472015-09-02T17:03:56.605-04:002015-09-02T17:03:56.605-04:00"Again, why wouldn't God just strike the ..."Again, why wouldn't God just strike the other army dead as he is so capable of doing with a single word?"<br /><br />Why hell, I don't know why God does a whole lot of things the way He does them! Quite candidly, in my flesh I'm no fan of many of the things He does, and in my flesh I'm confident I could do His job a hell of a lot better than He does.<br /><br />If you get hung up on trying to base Christian belief on logic and reason you're going to be frustrated right out of the gate. Why didn't God just create a world where there was no pain and suffering? Why not just create a perfect world where everyone is happy all the time? What was the point of creating a humanity that would have to be redeemed? I don't know! <br /><br />You just have to resign yourself to believing that His ways are higher and that you have finite understanding.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-44172530377519084122015-09-02T16:48:02.431-04:002015-09-02T16:48:02.431-04:00"However, if God DID decide to halt the spinn..."However, if God DID decide to halt the spinning of the earth to "hold the sun still", he would cause unimaginable destruction the likes the world has never seen."<br /><br />Um, Tom, if you acknowledge that God can suspend His own laws of nature, then I think you pretty much have to acknowledge that He can also suspend any natural consequences that a scientist would expect to ensue if the law were suspended. So I'm totally nonplussed with your argument to the effect that"we know this story is not true because the earth wasn't destroyed."<br /><br />Tip: once you acknowledge that the supernatural is possible, as you have unequivocally done, then don't argue that anything is impossible because it would defy the laws of nature. The fallacy of this should be obvious.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com