tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post8592107786753689736..comments2024-03-23T22:54:58.661-04:00Comments on FBC Jax Watchdogs: Robert Jeffress: Evangelicals Would Rather Have a "Born Again Christian" than a "Good, Moral Person" in the White HouseFBC Jax Watchdoghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10740366031265491559noreply@blogger.comBlogger56125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-59314186284269555652011-10-12T14:11:25.963-04:002011-10-12T14:11:25.963-04:00Dogs can wag their tongues all day and profess to ...Dogs can wag their tongues all day and profess to be a Born Again Christian but what the tongue says has little effect on the truth.<br /><br />Jesus, the very one who is the Head of the Church said we will know them by their fruit, not simply by what the wagging tongue says alone.<br /><br />I agree with the Word of God, faith without works is dead, dead, dead. You can say you have faith all day long but you had better be able to prove that you are connected to the Holy Tree God by producing His Fruit in you. That's the real test.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-84248050912196947092011-10-10T21:39:15.011-04:002011-10-10T21:39:15.011-04:00Mormonism is a cult plain and simple. It is not a...Mormonism is a cult plain and simple. It is not another "brand" of Christianity.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-64659994484023008262011-10-09T01:24:05.789-04:002011-10-09T01:24:05.789-04:00I prefer Cain but if Romney were the nominee I wou...I prefer Cain but if Romney were the nominee I would hold the nose and vote for him.<br /><br />In fact, from what I can tell he seems to be a non practicing cultural Mormon. But he really is not that conservative...so he is not my first choice. <br /><br />I held my nose and voted for McCain!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-1391375860334782562011-10-09T01:19:25.693-04:002011-10-09T01:19:25.693-04:00And I see you still don't have the guts to cla...And I see you still don't have the guts to claim your comments.<br /><br />October 8, 2011 11:40 PM<br /><br />Absolutely! I have seen first hand the arrogant evil that masquerades as "Christian" leadership. I have seen way too many people thrown under buses for daring to disagree with the specially "anointed ones". Yes, most definitely. I am a coward. These guys take no prisoners. They ruin people. I am thankful that here ideas stand on their own...content is more important than who you are or who you are associated with. <br /><br />Signed, Publius. :o)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-77083493044527371032011-10-09T01:12:37.240-04:002011-10-09T01:12:37.240-04:00"Christianity is a religion"
Todd, Chri..."Christianity is a religion"<br /><br />Todd, Christiantity is NOT a religion. It is a relationship. Big huge difference.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-35618501528349604472011-10-09T01:01:38.479-04:002011-10-09T01:01:38.479-04:00Anonymous said...
"Mormon?
With the &...Anonymous said...<br /> "Mormon?<br /> With the "secret underwear","<br /><br /><br />Gee, everything of Mega Pastors and mega churches are "secret" so where's the beef?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-38395698799962853442011-10-08T23:40:33.508-04:002011-10-08T23:40:33.508-04:00you know Anon, I removed that post for a couple re...you know Anon, I removed that post for a couple reasons:<br /><br />1. Your post on which I commented was rambling, disjointed and generally useless<br /><br />2. My response to it was too snarky, upon reflection, and not edifying.<br /><br />3. As I said when I mentioned the I Tim 2 passage, which was directed to the Watch Dog himself, btw....I acknowledged that it was off-topic. <br /><br />So, I decided enough bandwidth had been wasted already without a pissing contest between you and me on a question which will never be settled in this life.<br /><br />And I see you still don't have the guts to claim your comments.Ed Franklinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05878045658191730881noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-22090580358235114462011-10-08T22:37:54.161-04:002011-10-08T22:37:54.161-04:00Dr Robert Jeffress:
"The Southern Baptist Con...Dr Robert Jeffress:<br />"The Southern Baptist Convention (the largest Protestant denomination in the WORLD) has officially labeled Mormonism as a Cult"<br /><br /><a href="http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/bestoftv/2011/10/07/tsr-romney-values-voter-mormon.cnn" rel="nofollow">CNN Video</a> <br /><br /> <a href="http://blogs.dallasobserver.com/unfairpark/2011/10/why_robert_jeffress_is_endorsi.php" rel="nofollow">A Dallas Blog comments</a> <br /><br /><br />Oh, this makes sense, SBC has a direct line to the Almighty and Knows the TRUTH.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-45187359083283209842011-10-08T22:36:56.481-04:002011-10-08T22:36:56.481-04:00I TOTALLY disagree with the supposed learned pasto...I TOTALLY disagree with the supposed learned pastor. I would rather have a conservative with judeo-christian values who is a leader than someone who is a Christian and NOT a leader. Too many pastors aer not fit to be leaders and just being born-again is not enough to lead this nation. I do like Perry and Bachman. Wonder if I could get them to run togehter as a team?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-66857076930982297452011-10-08T22:32:12.080-04:002011-10-08T22:32:12.080-04:00Was Jesus a Mormon?
Was Paul a Mormon?
Would Jes...Was Jesus a Mormon?<br /><br />Was Paul a Mormon?<br /><br />Would Jesus vote for a Mormon?<br /><br />With the "secret underwear", baptism for the dead, and the belief that one day Mitt will be a God and run his own Universe.<br /><br />Surely he can run the USA!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-70108601463684146352011-10-08T22:07:34.776-04:002011-10-08T22:07:34.776-04:00I am never impressed when a non-anonymous removes ...I am never impressed when a non-anonymous removes their post:<br /><br />Ed Franklin said...<br /><br /> @Anon 5:27....thanks for your efforts, but I'm not moved much from where I am (though I might not be where you seem to put me with "...you will have to give up your need for preeminance (sic)" Perhaps that view of me as a troglodyte caused you to leave the meat out of your presentation.<br /><br /> with regard to a couple of your "points"--<br /><br /> 1. yes, "a woman"...and your point is? That Paul had in mind one particular woman? If I say, "if a man lays a hand on my wife, he's dead meat..." does that mean just one man?<br /><br /> 5. Robertson does not see all the sinister meaning you ascribe to the word: "auṫhentes, a self-doer, a master, autocrat. It occurs in the papyri (substantive authentēs, master, verb authenteō, to domineer, adjective authentikos, authoritative, “authentic”)"<br /><br /> ....and so on and so forth. I've studied the egalitarian/complementarian thing for about 30 years and have seen some substantially more convincing cases than you present....and I will admit, I am never impressed by the anonymous poster. Why would someone not put their name to that post?<br /><br /> (Wow! my captcha word is "unpoo"...is that an omen?...lol)<br /><br /> October 8, 2011 6:46 PMAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-68997020188853620362011-10-08T20:30:54.509-04:002011-10-08T20:30:54.509-04:00Todd - please read my posts. I'm not debating ...Todd - please read my posts. I'm not debating the religion, cult, or denomination issue. You are.<br /><br />I am concerned with who will make the best president. Period.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-23131220771763555332011-10-08T20:28:03.577-04:002011-10-08T20:28:03.577-04:00After all, the last "born again" Souther...<i>After all, the last "born again" Southern Baptist we had in the White House ended up getting sexual favors from a 22-year old in the Oval Office.</i><br /><br />And the one before him was, IMO, the worst president in my lifetime, if not ever, until the present occupant took office. Four more years of this and we won't have a country left. But if conservative evangelicals continue to fail to see the forest for the trees, four more years of BHO is exactly what we face. If Romney is the Republican candidate you can hold your nose and vote for him, or you can vote your conscience and vote for a third-party candidate which is the same as a vote for BHO. Suit yourself.New BBC Open Forumhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18300115421477555376noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-16226093449971938062011-10-08T20:26:45.241-04:002011-10-08T20:26:45.241-04:00Todd, I'm having a margarita now. You need one...Todd, I'm having a margarita now. You need one too.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-374397385829256272011-10-08T18:46:35.961-04:002011-10-08T18:46:35.961-04:00This comment has been removed by the author.Ed Franklinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05878045658191730881noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-31259807366950611472011-10-08T18:40:55.703-04:002011-10-08T18:40:55.703-04:004:42 Anon,
Mormonism is not a denomination of...4:42 Anon,<br /><br /> Mormonism is not a denomination of Christianity. Please get your facts straight. Mormonism is a religion, Christianity is a religion, Islam is a religion...<br /><br /> Mormonism is not a branch of Christianity or a denomination of Protestantism. Mormonism is a cult.<br /><br /> Let me say again, Romney would make a terrific president, especially in comparison of what we have now. But let's not confuse the issue - - Romney, if he claims to be a Mormon, is not a Christian...and I stand by my viewpoint that a Christian with the Spirit in them has the advantage of Godly wisdom.<br /><br />Todd<br /><br />ToddAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-48358479751331163472011-10-08T18:29:37.031-04:002011-10-08T18:29:37.031-04:00Bill Bennett Responds;
“Do not give voice to bigo...Bill Bennett Responds;<br /><br />“Do not give voice to bigotry. Do not give voice to bigotry,” Bennett said in his speech Saturday morning. “I would say to Pastor Jeffress: You stepped on and obscured the words of Perry and Santorum and Cain and Bachmann and everyone else who has spoken here. You did Rick Perry no good, sir, in what you had to say.”<br /><br />Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1011/65475.html#ixzz1aEPKY591<br /><br /><br />Now what was the new name to be for the Bigoted SOUTHERN BAPTIST Convention?<br /><br /> So they could "reach" out to other areas of the country ?<br /><br />Oh will tell em the truth...<br /> their all going to He//?<br /><br />There is no correct truth but the Southern Baptist Truth.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-61848088668479536472011-10-08T17:31:26.064-04:002011-10-08T17:31:26.064-04:00I am not voting for a preacher but a president. Ob...I am not voting for a preacher but a president. Obama claims to be a chrisitan but his big issue he took the lead on in the Ill legislature was not protecting born alive aborted babies. He worked hard to keep that from passing. His pastor was the on the board of the Hospital that put late term born alive aborted babies in the soiled linen closet to die and withhold any medical treatment.<br /><br />Obama is a monster who claims to be a Christian.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-51713894203083414012011-10-08T17:27:05.237-04:002011-10-08T17:27:05.237-04:00Ed,
Here is are some clues about 1 Tim 2 is horri...Ed,<br /><br />Here is are some clues about 1 Tim 2 is horribly interpreted...since we have limited space:<br /><br />1. The Grammar is "singular" as in A woman.<br /><br />2. Women are not 'saved' by bearing children. (Paul is referring to THE childbearing of MEssiah...it is a play on words because of the fertility cult at the temple of artemis in eph)<br /><br />3. There is NO prohibition to women teaching men in the Old Covenant. Not one. So you want me to believe there is a new more strict law in the New?<br /><br />4. Authenteo does not mean "authority over". If the Holy Spirit had wanted to Inspire clear words for authority over there are plenty in Greek.<br /><br />5. Authenteo is used once in the NT in this passage. It denotes sinister domineering as in false teaching. Chrysostem even wrote about authenteo saying a "husband should not authenteo his wife". (I beleive it was in Homily 10) So we know it is bad and men can do it to women. So, it cannot be a simple authority over.<br /><br />There is a ton more but I will stop. You might consider that Paul assumes women are prophesying in the Body in 1 Corin 11. You might also consider Pentecost.<br /><br />Every group longs to have someone "under" them. Patriarchs are no different and this errant teaching goes back to Genesis 3 and a bad interpretation of "teshuqa". Which was translated as "turning" until about 1300 AD.<br /><br />Patriarchy is a sin and the result of the fall. Many are teaching sin as a virtue. <br /><br />Besides, most pastors teach that women are more easily decieved and that is the reason for them not to teach men. So why allow them to teach other more easily decieved women and children? Evidently the Cross was not enough for Born Again women to overcome such deception. Others teach that it is creation order that makes the difference. So cows are higher up the chain than man, I suppose.<br /><br />It is all silliness. And I often think of women in closed countries who witness and teach men because the fields are ready and laborers are few. Spome suffer in prison for it. SAul was throwing women in prison before he was saved. Guess he saw them as much a threat as the male Christians.<br /><br />But you will have to give up your need for preeminance to see it and I have few hopes many will.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-61822792357482848662011-10-08T17:09:36.649-04:002011-10-08T17:09:36.649-04:00These mega church pastors are such idiots. They ar...These mega church pastors are such idiots. They are so insulated. <br /><br />I am not a fan of Romney but Chuck Colson makes a good argument AGAINST what Jeffries is teaching in his old book, Kingdoms in Conflict.<br /><br />Conservatives are their own worst enemy. We want perfection in our candidates on our pet issues and thier background while Democrats will vote for some vague "hope and change" and rally behind some guy with no executive experience but a community organizer (which is code for socialist) who has a background in Marxist Liberation Theology. (He did throw Jeremiah under teh bus when that got embarassing) But Obama has been true to his socialist beliefs. In other words, Democrats will vote for anybody running on that ticket. Conservatives do tend to stay home if they do not like the candidate in the general. It is a big problem.<br /><br />I am leaning toward Cain. He is sticking with the main issue. Perry is a bit wacky with his bizaree affiliation with Joel's Army and some Muslim groups. Romney is not conservative (socialized medicine in Mass) but looks like a President and is seen as the establishment candidate so that will get him votes.<br /><br />It would also be soemthing to watch 2 African Americans, one a socialist and one a conservative take each other on in the general. Historic.<br /><br />Yes we Cain!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-10090291450001690402011-10-08T16:44:59.451-04:002011-10-08T16:44:59.451-04:00I hate Mormonism.
It is evil, vile, and wicked.
...I hate Mormonism.<br /><br />It is evil, vile, and wicked.<br /><br />Defend it if you will, it will lead you straight to Hell.<br /><br />Only an idiot would believe that trash.<br /><br />We don't need any more idiots in the White House.<br /><br />Jeffress is not smooth but he is right....We hate Mormonism.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-26751589299758068122011-10-08T16:42:02.730-04:002011-10-08T16:42:02.730-04:00Todd you're wearing us out. Obviously you want...Todd you're wearing us out. Obviously you want to be right. Ok! You are then.<br /><br />There's a much bigger issue at stake. We need a strong conservative leader to replace the incumbent who has destroyed our country. If Christians are going to get bogged down by this silly debate over denomination, we are in huge trouble come 2012.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-1014353036159114082011-10-08T16:39:26.763-04:002011-10-08T16:39:26.763-04:00Herman Cain professed his faith in Jesus Christ we...Herman Cain professed his faith in Jesus Christ well before entered the race for President of the United States:<br /><a href="http://www.christianpost.com/news/herman-cain-talks-about-his-faith-possible-presidential-run-49761/" rel="nofollow">http://www.christianpost.com/news/herman-cain-talks-about-his-faith-possible-presidential-run</a><br /><br />If it gets down to Cain vs. Romney, I'd choose Cain - hands down!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-27795422775824693622011-10-08T16:19:26.769-04:002011-10-08T16:19:26.769-04:00I can assure you, 3:28 Anon, that a First Baptist ...I can assure you, 3:28 Anon, that a First Baptist Church of Dallas check was not cut to the Rick Perry for President fund. If I am wrong on that, FBC Dallas has made a mistake that is illegal and unethical. That church would know better. <br /><br />It would be fully legal for a church employee to arrange everything for Dr. Jeffress to attend the forum. There would be no problem with that.<br /><br />ToddAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-62253777574758934282011-10-08T16:05:38.533-04:002011-10-08T16:05:38.533-04:00"I do believe that a man/woman with the Holy ..."I do believe that a man/woman with the Holy Spirit in them, leaning on the Word of God as authority would be a greater President than one without the power of God in them."<br /><br />And when was the last one that met that criteria?<br />Obama?<br />Bush?<br />Clinton?<br />Bush?<br />Reagan?<br />Carter? Was a Southern Baptist<br /><br /><br /><br />Even Pastors who claim these credentials are even dangerous to be around.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com