tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post9140153619667429887..comments2024-03-23T22:54:58.661-04:00Comments on FBC Jax Watchdogs: FBC Jax Gets Good Laugh at Racial and Ethnic StereotypesFBC Jax Watchdoghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10740366031265491559noreply@blogger.comBlogger200125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-85401543918968166842009-06-27T22:49:48.863-04:002009-06-27T22:49:48.863-04:00Over a year ago after having the worst stomach vir...Over a year ago after having the worst stomach virus in years around the Jewish Passover and a month after traditional Easter, I have been rethinking a lot of things.....Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-64512478925059331142009-06-26T08:48:59.085-04:002009-06-26T08:48:59.085-04:00Notice how since the post concerning this being an...Notice how since the post concerning this being an Everson possibility as the blogger using the sn /TomRich Paparazzi - it has stopped.<br /><br />Familiarity exposes ignorance.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-60611531658630271262009-06-25T16:52:47.815-04:002009-06-25T16:52:47.815-04:00anon 4:47 Thanks for the encouragement and inspiri...anon 4:47 Thanks for the encouragement and inspiring post for Team WD.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-33845495283913812252009-06-25T16:40:43.503-04:002009-06-25T16:40:43.503-04:00Mr. Paparazzi: The uncomfortable shoes never hurt ...Mr. Paparazzi: The uncomfortable shoes never hurt when they are on someones elses feet!!! I am sure YOU would yell the loudest if any of YOUR rights were denied or attempted to be taken away!!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-48203606992647799762009-06-25T16:37:16.501-04:002009-06-25T16:37:16.501-04:00Mr. Paparazzi:
The courts have really assisted th...Mr. Paparazzi:<br /><br />The courts have really assisted the down trodden in America over the last 150 years. If all we had was a prayer for something to happen we would not today have:<br /><br />1. Voting rights for women<br />2. Freedom of the slaves<br />3. Equal opportunity in workplace<br />4. Rights of accused to be silent<br />5. Fair hearing in the court system<br />6. School integration<br /><br />And these are just six of several hundred court cases that have been brought forward by its citizenry. Yes, the courts do make some good laws. Its for the people by the people. Hopefully, there will be more of the same so we can all enjoy freedom of every lawful description. Shame on those who wish to silence anyone who has a legitimage complaint. The Supreme Court today finally after six years defended the right of that 13 year old girl not to be stripped searched. On and on we could challenge the rights of the small by the GREAT as some would have us believe. LET RIGHT BE DONE!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-63001525164131297032009-06-25T15:56:55.306-04:002009-06-25T15:56:55.306-04:00"What video is this you are talking about? I&...<i>"What video is this you are talking about? I'd like to see it. Can you link us to it or direct us to it somehow."</i><br /><br />You will not find these videos online. Most of them were in August of 2008 and the pip-squeak one was couple of month before that (I will have to check my records). Anyway, all these were on Number 9 Network, and I am certain they might not have carried them over to 316 Network.<br /><br />But I do have both mp3 of the sermons and videos I recorded. I have not looked at them since end of August 2008, when I stopped watching Fbc Jax Services regularly.Rameshhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09728392311602332613noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-19521807813118575352009-06-25T15:40:55.389-04:002009-06-25T15:40:55.389-04:00"Paparazzi has got me wondering... he is obvi..."Paparazzi has got me wondering... he is obviously still inside the cult, so I'm wondering WHO are these people still on the inside?"<br /><br />I would look more toward Trey's followers and cronies. He sounds young and lacking in the ability to reason with factual information.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-72669717823625146142009-06-25T15:40:12.181-04:002009-06-25T15:40:12.181-04:00WD,
You've really been gracious in holding yo...WD,<br /><br />You've really been gracious in holding your tongue but still defending your rightful position when dealing with your detractors, critics and outright attackers. You should be commended for that.<br /><br />You've also been very classy not to post the more "trash-talking" comments that I know you've received (even some from me,) even though they support your side.<br /><br />We sure aren't seeing such civility from the other side. Even the Mac supporters come on here and attack you BUT STILL can't defend their position.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-54501948347590747102009-06-25T15:05:36.797-04:002009-06-25T15:05:36.797-04:00Tom,
Paparazzi has got me wondering... he is obvi...Tom,<br />Paparazzi has got me wondering... he is obviously still inside the cult, so I'm wondering WHO are these people still on the inside?<br /> <br />My conclusion, having been an insider for over 30 years before I left Mad Mac last year, is that they are the ones who've been there the longest. They maybe grew up there, got saved there, got married there, maybe had children there, and grandchildren in all those musicals. They are the long-timers. I'm not old, so they aren't necessarily older, just been there a long time. I know those people, they feel like "it's my church", and like someone else has blogged on this site before, they have formed so many linked relationships (i.e. SS teachers, directors, kids' SS teachers and directors, nursery workers, ushers on "their aisle", Miss Nancy, Barton and Carr (none of which are in service there anymore.) They find it hard to leave. <br /><br />They've not been deceived before, so they didn't see it coming. They were caught up in the hype of Mac. I was there, but skeptical like you, having strong discernment, watching, comparing his words and deeds and motives with The Word. <br /> <br />So, I think it really comes down to this; in all of life, whether at work, at school, at home, at church or at play, there are still only 3 types of people, (I've witnessed it in my many years of service at FBCJ and so has Tom), there are the Voyeurs, (watchers, the sponges) Lawyers, (who just want to argue the point without action) and Warriors, (the doers, that's us.) We are the doers, the ones with discernment who cannot let it go. We cannot let it happen if it is wrong. We protest. We fight. We make it right or point out to the rest how wrong it is.<br /> <br />In conclusion, now I can imagine who is left at FBCJ.<br />Now, when they post their comments, such as Paparazzi , you can only figure they are either the Voyeurs, the sponges, or the Lawyers, the arguers with no action.<br />The discerners, The Warriors are gone.<br />Maybe there are still a few who will leave in droves as their eyes are opened by blogs such as this and front page headlines made by their pastor.<br /> <br />(And maybe Paparazzi has left us a clue... is HE the one who was taking photos of Deb??)Former FBC Insidernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-50330853032077000022009-06-25T13:41:26.788-04:002009-06-25T13:41:26.788-04:00Anon June 25, 2009 1:16 PM
What is up with the by...Anon June 25, 2009 1:16 PM<br /><br /><i>What is up with the bylaws being in the Library only? Does this not concern members? I guess it is a way to track those who want to look at them. </i><br /><br />Ya know, with a membership somewhere around the 25,000 mark (depending on who ya talk to) wouldn’t it be a logical thing to post the bylaws on their website? They can sure find ways to post advertisements for certain contractors and river cruises; why can’t the bylaws be posted and available to ALL members? Are they THAT secretive? This is a tax exempt organization, and as a taxpayer I think I should have access to their bylaws whether I am a member or not.<br /><br />I find it truly hard to believe that there is only ONE copy of the church bylaws and that is located in the church library. God forbid, what would happen if the library burned down?Richardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17613931887262871062noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-4240884704971366852009-06-25T13:28:02.397-04:002009-06-25T13:28:02.397-04:00Papparazzi - I don't mind you coming here and ...Papparazzi - I don't mind you coming here and discussing these issues. But the question you asked me I won't post because its irrelevant, and you know it.FBC Jax Watchdoghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10740366031265491559noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-80254431808125463822009-06-25T13:25:45.659-04:002009-06-25T13:25:45.659-04:00As information even the apostle Paul had Zenas the...As information even the apostle Paul had Zenas the lawyer with him!! And that was in a Kangaroo court of all places. The church of the Lord Jesus Christ should allow witnesses on both sides.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-3429423152341782002009-06-25T13:17:15.757-04:002009-06-25T13:17:15.757-04:00The strategies of the proposed meeting have been d...The strategies of the proposed meeting have been detailed in an earlier publication that is available on the web at: http://savingbellevue.com/HTM%20Files/abusive.htmArcehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15353942268618097671noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-17204114068881544062009-06-25T13:16:07.440-04:002009-06-25T13:16:07.440-04:00Tom, Matthew 18 clearly says to bring witnesses wi...Tom, Matthew 18 clearly says to bring witnesses with you when confronting. The fact they would not allow you to bring witnesses screams loudly as to their intentions.<br /><br />Wonder if Paparazzi can give us some insight into why they would not allow you to bring a witness. <br /><br />What is up with the bylaws being in the Library only? Does this not concern members? I guess it is a way to track those who want to look at them. <br /><br />So much for the Holy Priesthood. <br /><br />FBCJax seems more RCC in it's polity by its own actions.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-28620897438855093272009-06-25T13:15:04.747-04:002009-06-25T13:15:04.747-04:00Blog. 9:43: Interpertation twisted.
I can tell y...Blog. 9:43: Interpertation twisted.<br /><br /><br />I can tell you the Rule and Reign policy is definitely in place. If you arn't "on board" then you are isolated from doing any service or having any part other than attending and then there is the expectation that you give your money, even if "they" don't like you. Displease the "top" and you get dropped. The "word" goes out and suddenly no one is talking to you. You are relieved of your "position" or area of service. You are made to feel and treated as an offender. And in the WD's case you actually get thrown out. It is my guess that other Trespass Notices would have gone out had not this blog., been in place. The publicity it has brought about would really go wild over further "insult to injury" actions. Should similar Trespass Notices or "inducements" to leave the church come in the future depends on the success of Tom's suit. If Tom loses, the "carnage" may be great. If he wins, maybe there is hope for this church. I will say this treatment, to a degree, did not start with Brunson, it was in place prior. But the current leadership has "fine tuned" it enormously.<br /><br />My opinion is.. Church is voluntary. Why would people that really love the Lord want to be connected with anything like this church, as it is? We are being told what to do and controlled in many areas of our lives today, basically losing our freedoms daily. The church seems to be following the same pattern. A do as I say or else pattern.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-16730027309420173172009-06-25T13:08:53.917-04:002009-06-25T13:08:53.917-04:00The paparazzo is willfully spinning the facts into...The paparazzo is willfully spinning the facts into lies to support his position. If he had paid attention to the blog for the last year, he would have known that the Rich family left the church before the matter was taken to the deacons. He would also have known that there way multiple opportunities for Mac Brunson to meet with Mr. Rich, mediated by other people who were not in either camp but neutral. And Mac refused or did not even answer.<br /><br />Mac is a dictator, plain and simple. He has a lust for power and money and for control of whatever he cannot control. His sin is evident in every TV broadcast.<br /><br />The paparazzo needs to get a dose of reality and stop the idolatry of Mac Brunson, and begin worshipping the Lord God who lives in the persons of the Creator, Redeemer and Comforter.Arcehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15353942268618097671noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-40793092139976477752009-06-25T12:56:37.934-04:002009-06-25T12:56:37.934-04:00Paparazzi - you missed my point.
What did they ha...Paparazzi - you missed my point.<br /><br />What did they have to fear in a meeting?<br /><br />Nothing. That is my point. You think I think they would fear me? or a lawyer? Of course not. Soud and Bristowe and the rest of the bunch fearing me or a lawyer? Of course not. But I would have gone, and I sent them a letter and emails stating such. I would have gone, but with a witness. They had nothing to fear.<br /><br />But that is my point. They didn't want to meet with me, else they would have met my reasonable requests. I know YOU can't see that, but others outside of FBC Jax looking in (other than Wilcox and Estes) DO see it for what it is.<br /><br />If they did want to meet, they would have met my three simple requests. Requests that any reasonable person would make in the same circumstance. And they could have said "Hey, come to the meeting, and we'll tell you about how we found your identity". They didn't even do that. The only response was "if you want to see the bylaws, you can come to the library". And they said categorically will I never be able to bring a person with me or record the meetings as they are "eccliastical". So who says a person going to an eccliastical meeting can't bring a witness?<br /><br />Look, I know I won't convince you, and I suspect you are an insider. But I do genuinely pity you, that you are so blind as to defend the actions of your church leadership in the way they handled this mess. And they have done more harm to themselves than any blogger could have ever done - but the faithful will defend the actions of their leadership, for to not do so indicts themselves.FBC Jax Watchdoghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10740366031265491559noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-83120128763116334812009-06-25T12:53:46.716-04:002009-06-25T12:53:46.716-04:00Richard,
Feel free to pimp my poetry out all over ...Richard,<br />Feel free to pimp my poetry out all over the internet in the name of disfellowshipping Mad Mac and promoting the Watchdog.<br /><br />(Please hit spell check, I didn't.)Poor in Jaxnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-75165356178936085712009-06-25T12:52:41.504-04:002009-06-25T12:52:41.504-04:00Referring to an earlier post where I compared the ...Referring to an earlier post where I compared the kool-aid drinkers to drug addicts, Paparazzi guy is the perfect example.<br /><br />He has apparently consumed so much kool aid that his brain is dead beyond any hope although his body is still functioning.<br /><br />With reference to the comments about high powered lawyers and judges to back FBCJax and inferring that Mr. Roberts doesn't have a chance against them, remember this ... <br /><br />I would betcha by golly that there are enough Catholic and Muslim and Black and Hispanic high powered lawyers in this city that would take this case pro-bono for the principle. You got Smyrl to thank for that one.<br /><br />Those high powered lawyers and judges that will be representing the church will NOT be working pro-bono for the principle. Somehow, some way, the "giving units" will finance the Church's defense and the defense of both Mac and Soud as individuals. The "giving units" will be the ones financing any settlement, if any. <br /><br />I'm quite confident that Watchdog is NOT in this for any financial gain. Watchdog has REPEATEDLY, over and over again, listed what he wanted and what he expected out of this "discipline committee" that was appointed by Brunson. Until that happens, there will be no settlement. Each of those things he is asking for costs NO money. What these high powered lawyers and judges will be defending is keeping Mac out of a public forum having to issue an apology in a format to Watchdog's approval. Can anyone get a visual of that?Richardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17613931887262871062noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-43011201088483167332009-06-25T12:39:14.840-04:002009-06-25T12:39:14.840-04:00Wade's Blog > Reflections on the 2009 SBC i...<a href="http://kerussocharis.blogspot.com/2009/06/reflections-on-2009-sbc-in-louisville.html" rel="nofollow">Wade's Blog > Reflections on the 2009 SBC in Louisville, KY</a>.<br /><br /><i>For reasons that are not of my making (at least in my opinion), I have been involved in the politics of the SBC for the past three years.<br /><br />It is now time for me to step aside.</i>Rameshhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09728392311602332613noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-70497410798270153482009-06-25T12:26:22.977-04:002009-06-25T12:26:22.977-04:00Oh now I know who Paparazzi is, he's just anot...Oh now I know who Paparazzi is, he's just another one of Mad Mac's clones. The arrogance is sickening, but I'm sure Mac is proud that another one of the poor dumb sheep is following in his footsteps. Baaaaaaaaa<br />Blindly follow, that's all you know how to do. Discernment isn't taught there anymore.Former FBC Insidernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-58661563796696720732009-06-25T12:21:06.353-04:002009-06-25T12:21:06.353-04:00Poor in Jax:
Your poetry is lovely. You should wr...Poor in Jax:<br /><br />Your poetry is lovely. You should write a book. Mega pastors make big bucks doing the same thing!<br /><br />I for one would plug it on this blog. It can be dedicated to The Watchdog.<br /><br />Do I have your permission to cut and paste the poem on a couple of other appropriate blogs or do you need a royalty fee for me to do that?Richardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17613931887262871062noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-39849939984930246642009-06-25T12:16:50.329-04:002009-06-25T12:16:50.329-04:00Paparazzi,
Take another sip of the kool-aid and pa...Paparazzi,<br />Take another sip of the kool-aid and pass it down.Former FBC Insidernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-61211475406011998832009-06-25T12:05:40.093-04:002009-06-25T12:05:40.093-04:00Mr. TR,
Pull your head out of your arrogant poste...Mr. TR,<br /><br />Pull your head out of your arrogant posterior and listen.<br />The church would have had nothing to fear if you had brought a lawyer to the meeting. They would have feared NOTHING. Why? Because the church has a few of the biggest power players in the city that are trustees and deacons, etc in the church. So if they wanted to play the lawyer game, they would have been glad to let you bring a lawyer to the meeting, face to face with their lawyers. I mean come on, between you and the church, who has more weight to swing around? Definitely the church. So the issue is not that they were afraid of your lawyer. They wanted to restore things the biblical way, without lawyers and all that political nonsense.<br />But you, as a misguided sheep would do, insisted on "rights" and decided against biblical restoration.<br />Now you're throwing lawsuits left and right at anybody who's in range. And they're getting shot down out of the air.<br /><br />I urge caution Mr. Rich. Suing the church is a big thing. Remember, power players, and lawyers, and judges are hard to fight.<br />I don't think your lawyer, Mr. Roberts is he?, can win this one.<br /><br />And what's the deal with suing the church anyways? What are you after?<br />An apology? You won't get one, they did nothing wrong. Money? A settlement? You may get a settlement but money is not what your after is it.<br />You want revenge, retribution, the same thing you tried to avoid by blogging anonymously. Isn't it funny how things play out, hehe.<br /><br />Vengeance is the Lord's Mr. Rich. If you honestly think you are in the ok here and that the Lord is pleased with your actions up until now, let the Lord win and take His vengeance on Mac Brunson.TomRich Paparazzinoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-59845673663076023502009-06-25T11:59:39.865-04:002009-06-25T11:59:39.865-04:00" I have listened routinely many times to eac..." I have listened routinely many times to each of Pastor Mac's sermons. Clearly my impressions may not agree with yours."<br /><br /><br />Well stated Thy Peace. All one need do is too listen and pay close attention TO THE FACTS AND THEY WILL SEE THE TRUTH!!! <br /><br />These Macsters are willfully ignorant!!!Bro./Patsor Rod H.noreply@blogger.com