tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post966720363104225657..comments2024-03-23T22:54:58.661-04:00Comments on FBC Jax Watchdogs: Some Reflections on the 400th Post by the WatchdogFBC Jax Watchdoghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10740366031265491559noreply@blogger.comBlogger49125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-66931036169945048542010-06-13T09:18:30.291-04:002010-06-13T09:18:30.291-04:00Good job Tom.
I'm proud to know you and call y...Good job Tom.<br />I'm proud to know you and call you friend.<br />I believe God has chosen you "for such a time as this".<br /><br />Thanks for answering yes, to the call.Former FBC Insiderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14110678455091719881noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-60074190052759622672010-06-11T12:11:06.879-04:002010-06-11T12:11:06.879-04:00A disclaimer now and then would be good.A disclaimer now and then would be good.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-68828923656965328482010-06-11T10:20:52.676-04:002010-06-11T10:20:52.676-04:00"This sounds real good but are you suggesting..."This sounds real good but are you suggesting that we must ignore the evil perpetuated by the celebrity pastors because there are good pastors out there who might be tainted if we talk about it?"<br /><br />Not at all! Those who are corrupt need to beheld accountable. We are not to enable them by remaining silent. That's the good that comes out of the blog sites.<br /><br />However, we need to verbally acknowledge and support and pray for those pastors who are humbly walking with the Lord and seeking to care for His sheep. It's too easy for those good men to suffer from the fall out from the others.<br /><br />And, yes, a disclaimer would be good every now and then.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-9420227709934597732010-06-11T10:09:16.477-04:002010-06-11T10:09:16.477-04:00"The danger is some bloggers (and blog master..."The danger is some bloggers (and blog masters) are giving the impression that ALL pastors are corrupt."<br /><br />This sounds real good but are you suggesting that we must ignore the evil perpetuated by the celebrity pastors because there are good pastors out there who might be tainted if we talk about it?<br /><br />So, what is your advice? Use a disclaimer each time we comment?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-85246266196729466242010-06-11T09:41:45.203-04:002010-06-11T09:41:45.203-04:00All this discord among believers (I'm assuming...All this discord among believers (I'm assuming believers) reminds me of the verse "A house divided cannot stand"; and a quote:<br />"To live above with those we love, oh, that will be glory! To live below with those we know, now that's another story!"<br /><br />There are two sides to every story.<br />There is much arrogance, lack of integrity and use of the bully pulpit among a certain segment of SBC pastors today. That is wrong, wrong, wrong! And they should be held accountable. However, there are many pastors laboring in God's vineyards who are humble, shepherd-pastors seeking to do God's will and love His sheep (tho' some of us are not very lovable). The danger is some bloggers (and blog masters) are giving the impression that ALL pastors are corrupt. That is just as wrong as the very people they are pointing a finger at. We also need to remember Ephes. 6 that states the fact that our war is not against flesh and blood but against principalities and wickedness in high places, and the weapons of our warfare are our prayers! I sincerely wonder how many prayers are being offered up to God who is the only One who can bring healing to the SBC and our churches?<br /><br />For those pastors who have not given into greed and corruption and are doing all they can to minister to God's people:<br />"And we urge you, brethren, to recognize those who labor among you, and are over you in the Lord and admonish you, and to esteem them very highly in love for their work's sake. Be at peace among yourselves." I Thess. 5:12Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-32104188815395649112010-06-10T23:13:46.548-04:002010-06-10T23:13:46.548-04:00Here's a couple of thoughts that may open some...Here's a couple of thoughts that may open some eyes regarding church leadership. 1. Jesus called the Jewish leaders whited sepulchers which appear beautiful on the outside but are within full of dead men's bones. 2. I Peter 4:17 "For the time is come that judgement must begin at the house of God". <br /><br />If we claim not to sin then we make God a liar as He says all men are liars, there is none good, no not one. That includes us all. It is regrettable that the church has brought the world into it rather than the reverse. The church has no power when flesh rules and I see that mostly going on, not only from this and other blogs, but watching some of these performers on television. No wonder the world is sliding into Hell faster than a snowball. Satan loves to have the brethren fighting among themselves as he goes to and fro from place to place. We need to forgive and forget and additionally get out of the ministry if we are in it for OURSELVES AND NOT JESUS. Just my thoughts on the matter.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-23513664022398272522010-06-10T21:30:55.392-04:002010-06-10T21:30:55.392-04:00Nonnie --
Cautionary,how?
Let me offer this quot...Nonnie --<br /><br />Cautionary,how?<br /><br />Let me offer this quote from Luther, translated into English, as related by Eric W. Gritsch in The Wit of Martin Luther:<br /><br />Gently, dear Pauli, dear donkey, don’t dance around! Oh dearest little ass pope, don’t dance around dearest, dearest little donkey, don’t do it. For the ice is very solidly frozen this year because there was no wind you might fall and break a leg. If a fart should escape you while you were falling, the whole world would laugh at you and say, “Ugh, the devil! How the ass pope has befouled himself!”<br /><br />Etc.<br /><br />See also his comments referring to the Pope as "Antichrist."<br /><br />June 10, 2010 7:20 PM<br /><br />What exactly does this have to do with anything? Cryptic and vague. What does your quote relate to, specfically?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-50849717274638239442010-06-10T21:09:51.508-04:002010-06-10T21:09:51.508-04:00"Do you think that is all he did or all he wr..."Do you think that is all he did or all he wrote?<br /><br />Have I read Luther? Yes. Much more then the 95 thesis. Have you? Doesn't sound like it."<br /><br />Yep, even read his horrible rantings about Jews. And his defense of infant baptism.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-6058203347315646372010-06-10T21:09:51.509-04:002010-06-10T21:09:51.509-04:00"Do you think that is all he did or all he wr..."Do you think that is all he did or all he wrote?<br /><br />Have I read Luther? Yes. Much more then the 95 thesis. Have you? Doesn't sound like it."<br /><br />Yep, even read his horrible rantings about Jews. And his defense of infant baptism.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-3440725211240650992010-06-10T21:08:18.548-04:002010-06-10T21:08:18.548-04:00"Let he who is without sin, cast the first st..."Let he who is without sin, cast the first stone"<br /><br />Who was Jesus talking to? The religious leaders. Please read in context...the Pharisees did not even bring out her "partner" in crime. How could she be "caught" in adultery alone?<br /><br /> Jesus knew they were trying to trip him up. He knew they were in SIN for what they were doing...not even following the REAL law in such matters.<br /><br />From your misuse of this scripture would, it mean that NO pastor can preach about sin since they are sinners, too. No one can point out sin since they are sinners, too.<br /><br />Is that what you are communicating here? That is biblical ignorance.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-27578213996615042612010-06-10T19:20:56.149-04:002010-06-10T19:20:56.149-04:00Nonnie --
Cautionary,how?
Let me offer this quot...Nonnie --<br /><br /><i>Cautionary,how?</i><br /><br />Let me offer this quote from Luther, translated into English, as related by Eric W. Gritsch in <i>The Wit of Martin Luther</i>:<br /><br /><i>Gently, dear Pauli, dear donkey, don’t dance around! Oh dearest little ass pope, don’t dance around dearest, dearest little donkey, don’t do it. For the ice is very solidly frozen this year because there was no wind you might fall and break a leg. If a fart should escape you while you were falling, the whole world would laugh at you and say, “Ugh, the devil! How the ass pope has befouled himself!”</i><br /><br />Etc.<br /><br />See also his comments referring to the Pope as "Antichrist."Mike DeLonghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07663633633400443037noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-72938923978586607332010-06-10T18:57:05.786-04:002010-06-10T18:57:05.786-04:00I was in a hurry yesterday, Tom, and I think the w...I was in a hurry yesterday, Tom, and I think the word verification must not have went through and in the rush, I closed it before really seeing what had happened. Anyhow, I've said the bit I wanted to say, and it is "on the big board!" I'm reading - you keep writing.Johnny D.https://www.blogger.com/profile/17141127764617679586noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-72758470845883570732010-06-10T18:41:18.986-04:002010-06-10T18:41:18.986-04:00Thank you Thy Peace and QueenKnitter, I am greatly...Thank you Thy Peace and QueenKnitter, I am greatly encouraged by your words!FBC Jax Watchdoghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10740366031265491559noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-11933564285586965222010-06-10T18:35:22.413-04:002010-06-10T18:35:22.413-04:00Hi Johnny D - must have been a problem with the te...Hi Johnny D - must have been a problem with the technology, I checked and no posts came through from you yesterday. <br /><br />But glad to hear from you.<br /><br />Thanks for the encouraging words, Cousin Johnny! Glad to call you a friend.FBC Jax Watchdoghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10740366031265491559noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-81951246976826829372010-06-10T16:35:04.379-04:002010-06-10T16:35:04.379-04:00Ben, I don't know where you received your Chur...Ben, I don't know where you received your Church History education, but if you learned there the tripe you posted, you should demand your money back. You were cheated. Try reading Luther. I recommend you start with his "Open Letter to Christian Nobility," then check out his "Letter to Pope Leo X" After that you can get into the hard-core Jesus stuff of his "Larger" and "Smaller" Catechisms. Yes, he was all about Jesus, but he left no stone unturned when telling the Church where he believed it was in error and expressing that concern to the wider community. To be sure, Watchdog is no Martin Luther; he has never claimed to be. However, he is taking to task the contemporary evangelical expression of the Church with a tenacity that would make Luther proud. In that, he is living out the words and work of Jesus.Jimnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-12675298222877306662010-06-10T16:11:07.213-04:002010-06-10T16:11:07.213-04:00Unless you are in every point like Luther, you can...Unless you are in every point like Luther, you can't acknowledge any similarities at all.:)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-26919366819615388982010-06-10T15:58:50.053-04:002010-06-10T15:58:50.053-04:00Well, cousin, not sure what happened, but I wrote ...Well, cousin, not sure what happened, but I wrote several paragraphs yesterday in response to this blog, yet, somehow, they didn't make it. So, let me try again. <br /><br />I admire you, Tom. I would have given up long ago. In fact, I did. The corruption issues that you blog about DEFINITELY helped drive me to near-atheism. <br /><br />I admire the way you stand up and do not quit in the face of unrelenting criticism. Sure, most of it is just terribly bad criticism, like some of the critics above me here. Yet, criticism can be withering after a fashion. And some of your critics...wow. I honestly have to wonder at what level some of these people function mentally? Where is their reasoning power? For example, what would drive an adult human to believe:<br /><br />"It looks like Ergun Caner made a lot of mistakes, the funny thing about that is so have you and so have I."<br /><br />Really? I always love the "Well we do it too, so let's not hold Caner responsible" argument. Good one. Why don't we just quit holding people responsible period? Lie, cheat, steal, whatever - do it all you want, because somewhere, somebody else has done it too. Yeah, they just don't make adult-reasoning power like they used to. But then, I'm not surprised. Look at our destroyed, unconstitutional bankrupt, run by a bunch of kleptocratic-plutarchs country we live in, and you get an idea of the voting brain-power out there - ergo the average American's reasoning power.<br /><br />Nevertheless, I encourage you to carry on, Tom. I honestly do not know how you keep going, but I want you to know I do very much appreciate the example you have set here. It is likely that appreciation will harm your reputation by giving fuel to your haters, "See, an admitted atheist admires Tom - even calls him cousin! Let us put on our phylacteries and bejeweled breast plates of righteousness and tell the world of this transgression!" (Heh. Couldn't resist throwing in that last sentence in my modern-day Pharisee fantasy conversation.)<br /><br />Be well, Tom. And may you always live in peace, and may the sharp, focused light of reason shine down upon your readers.Johnny D.https://www.blogger.com/profile/17141127764617679586noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-90492004413392009322010-06-10T15:24:17.752-04:002010-06-10T15:24:17.752-04:00Dr. Dog-
Words cannot express our sincere t...Dr. Dog-<br /> <br /> Words cannot express our sincere thanks for all your hard work and perseverance over these last several years!<br /><br /> Only you and your family can fully appreciate the personal and financial sacrifices you've made to shine the light!<br /><br /> Keep up the great work, and we'll be right there with you!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-58012732560267809522010-06-10T15:05:52.214-04:002010-06-10T15:05:52.214-04:00Some interesting posts on Wade Burleson's blog...Some interesting posts on Wade Burleson's blog related to Martin Luther:<br /><br /><a href="http://kerussocharis.blogspot.com/2007/01/proud-toward-sinners-you-are-utterly_16.html" rel="nofollow">Proud Toward Sinners? You Are Utterly Damned -- THE CONDUCT TOWARD SINNERS THAT IS CHRISTIAN AND PLEASING TO GOD -- An extract from a sermon entitled "The Lost Sheep" by Martin Luther [JANUARY 16, 2007]</a>.<br /><br /><a href="http://kerussocharis.blogspot.com/2007/08/preachers-who-act-as-if-they-have-no.html" rel="nofollow">Preachers Who Act As If They Have No Personal Sin Preach a Milquetoast, Powerless Gospel [AUGUST 17, 2007]</a>.<br /><br /><a href="http://kerussocharis.blogspot.com/2007/10/reformation-goal-of-every-true-child-of.html" rel="nofollow">Reformation the Goal of Every True Child of God [OCTOBER 31, 2007]</a>.<br /><br /><a href="http://kerussocharis.blogspot.com/2008/03/biblical-primer-on-women-in-ministry.html" rel="nofollow">A Biblical Primer On Women in Ministry (Part 2) [MARCH 17, 2008]</a>.Rameshhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09728392311602332613noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-12681625740406252162010-06-10T13:54:07.097-04:002010-06-10T13:54:07.097-04:00"No, he nailed 95 thesis on the CATHEDRAL doo..."No, he nailed 95 thesis on the CATHEDRAL door. In your face, he was. Have you read Luther? How he talked about corrupt priests? Obviously not."<br /><br />Do you think that is all he did or all he wrote?<br /><br />Have I read Luther? Yes. Much more then the 95 thesis. Have you? Doesn't sound like it.<br /><br />Ben PatrickAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-3488090820126715772010-06-10T13:24:43.621-04:002010-06-10T13:24:43.621-04:00The fact that you cannot see the wrongs and that h...The fact that you cannot see the wrongs and that he is a wolf says a lot about you. You will answer for being so biblically ignorant and supporting a wolf.<br /><br />Perhaps you can show us the scriptural basis for Mac using the civil authorities to go after a blogger. No, make that 3 bloggers. 2 did even go to his church.<br /><br />We will all be waiting for that scripture....<br />________________________________<br /><br />"Let he who is without sin, cast the first stone"<br /><br />1. It's not your place to tell me that I will be judged for being biblically ignorant. <br /><br />2. What exactly am I being biblically ignorant about?<br /><br />3. If you would read my post again I didn't say I was for anything Mac Brunson was doing. Just because I don't like what WD is doing doesn't mean I'm for Brunson either.<br /><br />4. Name Calling? i.e " biblically ignorant, wolf, etc...Seriously?<br /><br />5 Personally, I think people who abuse children should be given the death penalty.Kennethnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-46298032887067954242010-06-10T13:22:09.495-04:002010-06-10T13:22:09.495-04:00might gently suggest that Luther's treatment o...might gently suggest that Luther's treatment of his opponents is a cautionary tale, not an example to be followed.<br /><br />June 10, 2010 11:25 AM<br /><br />Cautionary,how? You are always so cryptic in your comments here and at Wades. Why be so cryptic all the time?<br /><br />Luther was going against the state/church.<br /><br /> How could the example be the same at all? Priests worked for the Pope who was both a civil and religous leader.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-69251637552486658562010-06-10T11:25:40.041-04:002010-06-10T11:25:40.041-04:00I might gently suggest that Luther's treatment...I might gently suggest that Luther's treatment of his opponents is a cautionary tale, not an example to be followed.Mike DeLonghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07663633633400443037noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-73354277958768288802010-06-10T11:20:37.888-04:002010-06-10T11:20:37.888-04:00Q. Knitter --
You clearly know more about this th...Q. Knitter --<br /><br />You clearly know more about this than I do. I'd really like to pick your brain via email if possible.Mike DeLonghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07663633633400443037noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-63491551743095678962010-06-10T11:20:37.887-04:002010-06-10T11:20:37.887-04:00"
Luther set out to reform the church, to hel..."<br />Luther set out to reform the church, to help steer her back to God's design. I have yet to see that as important to the supporters here.<br />"<br /><br />Luther wanted to reform the Catholic church. He did not go far enough. He still believed in state church and sacraments. <br /><br />Why is what we are saying here different than Luther: Get out of these fake churches!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com