tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post3140465380392476318..comments2024-03-23T22:54:58.661-04:00Comments on FBC Jax Watchdogs: The World According to a Suffering Mega Church Pastor: Mac Says He Never Wanted to Come, and "Only Jesus Can Take Me Outta Here"FBC Jax Watchdoghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10740366031265491559noreply@blogger.comBlogger79125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-3545821970096972662011-11-25T20:44:12.460-05:002011-11-25T20:44:12.460-05:00Marcus Dandrea (November 24, 2011 11:25 PM) said: ...Marcus Dandrea (November 24, 2011 11:25 PM) said: “Pastor Mac is a really good person and great pastor. Alll [sic] you do is criticize and put him down and pretty much hate him, why?”<br /><br />But on the same point, why do you feel the need to defend him, especially given the questionable things which he has said and done?<br /><br /><br />Marcus Dandrea (November 24, 2011 11:25 PM) said: “If you don't bring up your issue with him first then you have no business posting it up for everyone to see.”<br /><br />So in order to criticize a Pastor of a church which one does not belong to, one must go through the said church’s internal disciplinary process against the said Pastor? If so, then would this required practice not keep criticisms of the said Pastor within his church and, thus, censored?<br /><br /><br />Marcus Dandrea (November 24, 2011 11:25 PM) said: “It is difficult enough being a pastor. Satan pesters them more than he does any of us.”<br /><br />How do you know this? Because you assume that the Pastor is always the most important person among Christians in general? If so, why?1 Thessalonians 5:21noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-66799785440846417852011-11-24T23:25:08.025-05:002011-11-24T23:25:08.025-05:00You people are really ungrateful. Pastor Mac is a...You people are really ungrateful. Pastor Mac is a really good person and great pastor. Alll you do is criticize and put him down and pretty much hate him, why? <br />If you don't bring up your issue with him first then you have no business posting it up for everyone to see. <br />It is difficult enough being a pastor. Satan pesters them more than he does any of us. <br />It really looks like you have a problem, like instead of talking to God, you talk to other spirits for advice. That's probably not a good idea since familiar spirits usually end up being demons. <br />You should repent and apologize for all this nonsense.Marcus Dandreanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-15591975376426583572011-11-23T13:27:04.799-05:002011-11-23T13:27:04.799-05:00I'll have a Bic Mac and fries!I'll have a Bic Mac and fries!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-46794946303423597922011-11-18T11:19:44.748-05:002011-11-18T11:19:44.748-05:00Amen
Keep Preachin BrotherAmen<br /><br />Keep Preachin BrotherAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-27680127942163860152011-11-18T10:18:59.632-05:002011-11-18T10:18:59.632-05:001 Thessalonians 5:21 said...
"Exactly what be...1 Thessalonians 5:21 said...<br />"Exactly what beliefs underlie this preoccupation with the authority of the Pastor?"<br /><br /><a href="http://freetostay.multiply.com/video/item/26" rel="nofollow">According to Steve Gaines, you need the Authority to Cast out Demons</a><br /><br />right Donna....Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-88700311592503955672011-11-18T05:46:50.243-05:002011-11-18T05:46:50.243-05:00I guess people believe that it's all some deep...I guess people believe that it's all some deeply spiritual thing run by God, when it comes to where pastors preach. I'd think it would be quite disillusioning if they saw the details of how it actually takes place. Doesn't the church have a say in who becomes their pastor? What about contracts, employment details like salary, benefits, etc. It all sounds pretty human to me. It's a job, just like any other CEO has.<br /><br />I think that aspect-claiming it's all a spiritual thing-is the most arrogant, off-putting thing about it.<br /><br />It seems also that if a pastor stands up there and says that no one can remove him but Jesus himself? How arrogant and threatening can you get? So of course the church can't try to get rid of him, because they'd be on the devil's side then, right? It's really absurd that people sit and listen to such and go along with that set-up.<br /><br />What if some Republican candidate won the Presidency and said that God put them there and only he can remove them-nothing to do with term limits or the will of the people or how the government is set up. <br /><br />Plus if God called you somewhere, wouldn't you take that so seriously that you'd not even take a salary, much less tons of perks for doing the job GOD called you to do? <br /><br />Oh, and I don't think God would like you standing up there complaining about this job that is so important and special that He wants only you to do it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-70327579755642790352011-11-17T23:04:05.005-05:002011-11-17T23:04:05.005-05:00Another one...
FOX News >> Syracuse Univers...Another one...<br /><br /><a href="http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/11/17/syracuse-university-assistant-basketball-coach-accused-molesting-ball-boy" rel="nofollow">FOX News >> Syracuse University Assistant Basketball Coach Accused of Molesting Ball Boy</a><br /><br />The dominoes are tumbling, folks.New BBC Open Forumhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18300115421477555376noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-7782152659430065382011-11-17T17:09:37.348-05:002011-11-17T17:09:37.348-05:00BTW, my apologies for my typos. They are slipping ...BTW, my apologies for my typos. They are slipping past me. :-(<br /><br />/Grrrr.1 Thessalonians 5:21noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-65048125576268609942011-11-17T17:02:59.233-05:002011-11-17T17:02:59.233-05:00Anonymous (November 16, 2011 10:43 PM) said: “Cons...Anonymous (November 16, 2011 10:43 PM) said: “Consider the members of FBC as sheep, lemmings, whatever you think of them.”<br /><br />While it is tempting to wave my hand and dismiss them as just that, doing so does not answer any questions. While <a href="http://fbcjaxwatchdog.blogspot.com/2011/02/al-mohler-pastors-are-god-appointed.html" rel="nofollow">Pastors often express why they think that they desire one’s submission</a>, I have yet to hear churchgoers <i>themselves</i> like the members of First Baptist Church of Jacksonville explain <i>exactly</i> why <i>they</i> submit to their Pastor to the extent which they do.<br /><br />Different perspectives on the authority of the Pastor can be underlain by much different beliefs.<br /><br />But I do often wonder if they have this oversimplistic belief that you must submit to your Pastor because his is the Pastor and that is that.1 Thessalonians 5:21noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-56729532824880912452011-11-17T13:51:35.795-05:002011-11-17T13:51:35.795-05:00I don't think that there are 20 Baptist Church...I don't think that there are 20 Baptist Churches in the world that would seriously consider calling the pastor of FBC Dallas.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-8340303673440067152011-11-17T11:29:25.297-05:002011-11-17T11:29:25.297-05:00Off Topic: Some interesting posts in the blogosphe...Off Topic: Some interesting posts in the blogosphere ...<br /><br /><a href="http://stopbaptistpredators.blogspot.com/2011/11/theologian-in-residence-puts-ignorance.html" rel="nofollow">Stop Baptist Predators [Christa Brown] > Theologian-in-residence puts ignorance on display</a><br /><br /><a href="http://sbcplodder.blogspot.com/2011/11/put-down-bible-pick-up-phone-call-cops.html" rel="nofollow">SBC Plodder [William Thornton] > Put down the Bible, pick up the phone, call the cops</a><br /><br /><a href="http://www.abpnews.com/content/view/6936/53/" rel="nofollow">ABP News [Bob Allen] > Yale professor cites similarities between Mormons, Southern Baptists</a>Rameshhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09728392311602332613noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-58264504239723886942011-11-17T11:13:19.702-05:002011-11-17T11:13:19.702-05:00I heard, but cannot absolutely confirm, that FBCJa...I heard, but cannot absolutely confirm, that FBCJax wanted Mac from the get-go. Early on they persuaded them to come and visit Jacksonville. After the visit, the Brunsons TURNED DOWN the opportunity (rumor had it Mrs. B. preferred Dallas).<br /><br />It was the second go around a good year later that persuaded the Brunsons to come.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-36693865088034766712011-11-17T10:06:31.588-05:002011-11-17T10:06:31.588-05:00Question.
Coming from a point of view that misery ...Question.<br />Coming from a point of view that misery is optional, why would you want a man as pastor who says he, “never wanted to come?” Are there no other men available who would love to come? Are there no other men who would truly love to pastor and serve the people of FBCJ?WishIhadknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12487727353887788291noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-64674902997109978122011-11-17T09:58:15.557-05:002011-11-17T09:58:15.557-05:00Not saying I am anything like Jesus but I am tryin...Not saying I am anything like Jesus but I am trying to follow his example. Or to put it another way, dissent is not unspiritual.WishIhadknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12487727353887788291noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-47567383721620404152011-11-17T08:00:17.449-05:002011-11-17T08:00:17.449-05:00The biggest joke is you actually trying to equate ...The biggest joke is you actually trying to equate yourself with Jesus.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-60593085718816088002011-11-16T23:45:34.508-05:002011-11-16T23:45:34.508-05:00“Usually people who have problems with pastors bei...“Usually people who have problems with pastors being called also have problems with authority in their lives. Just a quick observation.”<br />Guess Jesus had the same problem with authority; given his multiple and severe criticism of the religious leaders of his day. Just a quick observation.WishIhadknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12487727353887788291noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-80630075567583376082011-11-16T23:26:47.570-05:002011-11-16T23:26:47.570-05:00Classic rhetorical devises create a false attack s...Classic rhetorical devises create a false attack so that you elicit sympathy from your followers then dehumanize your critics so that your followers feel justified in attacking the critics. Don’t remember our Lord Jesus using those devices. In fact, as I recall, he was long suffering even unto death.<br /><br />The preacher needs to practice what I am sure he has preached in at least one of his sermons and “count your many blessings.”<br /><br />The preacher makes a nice six figure salary that is probably more than five times that of the families in his church.<br /><br />The preacher lives in an exclusive gated community in a house that is probably three times the size of the average home of the members of the church.<br /><br />The preacher is surrounded by only the people he chooses. <br /><br />Any criticism he hears is entirely voluntary. <br /><br />Does anybody know how much you have to give to be able to call the preacher’s cell phone?<br /><br />The preacher only works when he wants to.<br /><br />The preacher has gifts lavished on him without having to give an accounting to the church.<br /><br />The preacher and his family can travel anywhere at any time and the church pays for it.<br /><br />The preacher is part of a highly loyal and protective network that guarantees he will always have a place to go and an audience to speak to.<br /><br />I could go on.<br /><br />You and your preacher should get out a work a real job and then you will know what it is like to really suffer false attacks and criticism.WishIhadknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12487727353887788291noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-20394724726382205122011-11-16T22:45:08.276-05:002011-11-16T22:45:08.276-05:00Local megachurch goes green... with unintended res...Local megachurch goes green... with <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zo5eXKGODIo" rel="nofollow">unintended results</a>.<br /><br />I suspect the reaction from Mac or Steve would be just as swift if the "executive compensation" list of FBC Jax or Bellevue were to be leaked.New BBC Open Forumhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18300115421477555376noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-40026467411560802902011-11-16T22:43:01.327-05:002011-11-16T22:43:01.327-05:00Consider the members of FBC as sheep, lemmings, wh...Consider the members of FBC as sheep, lemmings, whatever you think of them.<br /><br />We are talking about adults and we're accountable for our own decisions... <br /><br />Mac will be held for his, and you for yours.<br /><br />If someone held me under a microscope, recorded every word I said and could analyze every utterance... That would just be plain ugly. <br /><br />Leading a mega-church... Ha, I can barely lead myself!<br /><br />I haven't read anything ground-breaking about Mac's actions, or lack thereof. He is in a elevated leadership position, he shows nepotism... <br /><br />Shocked? Guess what, he's also a sinner. <br />Just like the rest of us.<br />Romans 03:23<br /><br />Ultimately, if we are expecting this man to be perfect, then we can count on one thing... Perpetual disappointment.<br /><br />Only one man that walked this earth and done so without transgression. <br /><br />Matthew 7:3Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-29910585298913391562011-11-16T22:22:22.829-05:002011-11-16T22:22:22.829-05:00Mac told me once that there were over 20 churches ...Mac told me once that there were over 20 churches calling him when FBC Jax came knocking.<br /><br />If he is so bad and such a terrible person, why all the attention? Why does he speak all over the world?<br /><br />This blog is the 1% and we the people are the 99%.<br /><br />Pastor is helping occupy Heaven...<br /><br />His critics are sending people to Hell.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-84656076457540764712011-11-16T21:57:06.523-05:002011-11-16T21:57:06.523-05:008:58 Anon,
The phrase "Shut up" also is...8:58 Anon,<br /><br />The phrase "Shut up" also isn't in the Greek, but might still be a good idea . . . You get the point.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-54891721595698016082011-11-16T21:08:18.650-05:002011-11-16T21:08:18.650-05:00please do not feed that troll. He has a very speci...please do not feed that troll. He has a very specific signature in his posts, and he is the one that posts outlandish remarks to get a response. So please ignore.FBC Jax Watchdoghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10740366031265491559noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-16274328546937499882011-11-16T20:44:42.212-05:002011-11-16T20:44:42.212-05:00Our Pastor came to Jax and he did not want to come...Our Pastor came to Jax and he did not want to come here, God made him.<br /><br />He told us that this has been the worst place he has ever been in his life.<br /><br />Never has he had the kind of satanic opposition like he has experienced here.<br /><br />I agree with him...<br /><br />I hate this town,<br />I hate this blog, <br />I hate Dogs,<br />I hate all the critics,<br />I hate the whiners,<br /><br />BECAUSE GOD HATES IT..<br /><br />AND I HATE WHAT HE HATES.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-24859199972160592592011-11-16T18:51:02.057-05:002011-11-16T18:51:02.057-05:00Wade Burleson > The Prosperity Gospel's Fun...<a href="http://www.wadeburleson.org/2011/11/prosperity-gospels-fundamental-flaw-is.html" rel="nofollow">Wade Burleson > The Prosperity Gospel's Fundamental Flaw Is Its Faith in Faith</a><br /><br /><i>Control.<br /><br />That's the operative word that describes what people want. We all want control. Christian people want to believe that if they just have enough faith, and then exercise that faith by planting a financial seed (to the televangelist's ministry of course), that <b>they</b></i> control<i> their futures.</i>Rameshhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09728392311602332613noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-42380184447305992902011-11-16T17:52:10.445-05:002011-11-16T17:52:10.445-05:00"Usually people who have problems with pastor..."Usually people who have problems with pastors being called also have problems with authority in their lives. Just a quick observation.<br /><br />November 16, 2011 4:05 PM<br /><br />==============================<br />And my observation is the percentage of deacons & bible teachers who have divorced & remarried, some up to 3 times, whose kids are addict's, unmarried with babies also have some serious problems with authority running their own homes - and then they want to be leaders & give others spiritual advice.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com