tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post3656587562757273891..comments2024-03-07T00:24:23.674-05:00Comments on FBC Jax Watchdogs: Robert Morris Lays Down the Law: Non-Tithers are "Arrogant" and "Thieves" And Subject to Demon PossessionFBC Jax Watchdoghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10740366031265491559noreply@blogger.comBlogger28125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-30759053915971335142016-04-29T12:10:51.349-04:002016-04-29T12:10:51.349-04:00This guy is a plain thief! He wants tithes so he c...This guy is a plain thief! He wants tithes so he can pay for his numerous properties all over the state. He's no better than Jim Baker.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-41425430847721053902015-04-17T07:56:08.675-04:002015-04-17T07:56:08.675-04:00I thank God for people like Robert Morris who will...I thank God for people like Robert Morris who will boldly state the facts that come strIght from the Bible about what we are suppose to submit to and disciple others to do so, so we can live for God and not the worldly things. If you have a hang up with tithing it <br />is because you have a hang up with surrendering and Gods authority. My feeling is who do you think supplies you with all you have or who you have become? 10% is asking nothing for the price God paid for us, his one and only begotten son. Thank You so Much Robert Morris for being bold enough to speak the truth no matter the persecution you would receive. Stephanie SpitzStephanie Spitznoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-11793071479343381152015-02-09T23:35:53.760-05:002015-02-09T23:35:53.760-05:00"Give money to my ministry and God will give ..."Give money to my ministry and God will give money to you." There is no greater conflict of interest.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-78726226387688445492015-02-06T00:25:06.432-05:002015-02-06T00:25:06.432-05:00You all have no idea what you are talking about. T...You all have no idea what you are talking about. This is not a name it and claim it gospel, and Robert Morris is exactly right. If you think that tithing is Old Testament and that you need not be under the law, you don't understand tithing. Listen to the whole series on the blessed life and see if you still think the same thing. I attend his church. Gateway Church IS all about people. You have no idea what the church does with money, and probably don't know that Robert "tithes" 20% and gives away another 50%, living on just 30% of what he earns. And he does earn it. If you don't tithe, you ARE stealing from God, since he says the tithe belongs to him, and that's pretty arrogant in my opinion. Come worship with us. See what we're all about. Maybe you'll find what you're looking for. I did. I found JESUS at the heart of EVERY message.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-55632827847132134472015-01-28T16:29:52.830-05:002015-01-28T16:29:52.830-05:00Morris uses manipulation, fear, and mind control t...Morris uses manipulation, fear, and mind control to fleece his flock. They sit there and eat it up. Like taking candy from a baby.... Sad but true. <br />They applaud at everything he says no matter how ludicrous. He is obsessed with demons and money. Maybe he has a couple of demons in him. He is more of a cult leader than a pastor. <br /><br />Gateway has a $100 million dollar plus annual budget....Have to keep fueling that beast with his fear and threats of curses. Do we have a loving savior or vengeful cursing God....Which is it Robert???<br /><br />Check out the multi million dollar mansion in Possum Kingdom paid for with the curse tithes....While you are not paying your mortgage and electric bill Robert Morris is leading the blessed life.<br /><br />Gateway Chruch,,,,,were all about the money.....Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-52313279773371015772014-06-11T03:06:54.666-04:002014-06-11T03:06:54.666-04:00Scripture teaches that a believer is adopted in Ch...Scripture teaches that a believer is adopted in Christ, sealed with the Holy Spirit and an heir. It also teaches that "if any man be in Christ, behold he is a new creature, old things have passed, ALL THINGS become new." I added the emphasis in caps to make a point. There is a lot of teaching on family curses,etc., but Scripture doesn't support that teaching - in the NT gospel of Jesus Christ. The NT teaches that we are adopted into an inheritance through Christ...so then how would we be subject to our "generational" curses- which is similar to the teaching that demons have some authority in our lives. It would be impossible for us to be under these supposed curses or demons as believers who are indwelled by the Holy Spirt, New Creatures in Christ. It does say that "all things become new."<br />It also teaches that we are "seated in heavenly places with Christ Jesus." We have a beautiful salvation if we look at the work of Jesus Christ. Pastors like Morris want us to look at our own works and he says he doesn't want to condemn but there is no way you cannot be condemned if you are relying on your own works to be right with God. Our righteousness, as it's written says "is like filthy rags."Shilohhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00238711250893037606noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-87547002965978542852014-06-11T02:54:27.351-04:002014-06-11T02:54:27.351-04:00To anonymous who posted on June 8 at 3:01 PM: If ...To anonymous who posted on June 8 at 3:01 PM: If there are "many scriptures that prove the message he is preaching to be true," why don't you explain them? If you cannot, then you are sadly just repeating what you want to believe or have been taught. No one wants to discredit a "pastor." But if that pastor diminishes the Truth with false doctrine - it must be exposed. We are not under a curse as believers...we have the Spirit of Jesus Christ within us if we are "born again" believers: Gal 4:5-6,"...that He might redeem those who were under the Law, that we might receive the adoption as sons. Because you are sons, God has sent forth the Spirit of His Son into our hearts, crying, "Abba! Father!" Also: Galatians 3:13<br />Christ redeemed us from the curse of the law by becoming a curse for us, for it is written: "Cursed is everyone who is hung on a pole." Why would a pastor tell a believer that God would put them under a curse or allow a demon to possess them if they are already indwelled by Christ and already redeemed from the curse? We can't be put under the curse of the law again. This is the NEW COVENANT. Robert Morris is muddying up the beauty of the Gospel. He makes God out to be a tyrant and extortionist. The beauty of the Gospel that is in the sacrifice of Jesus Christ and what He did for us is lost in Morris' abuse of OT teaching and imposing the law on believers. We are redeemed through the work of Jesus Christ ---- we are not under a curse, nor can we redeem ourselves by our own works. Shilohhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00238711250893037606noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-30944577582461336752014-06-11T02:53:33.730-04:002014-06-11T02:53:33.730-04:00To anonymous who posted on June 8 at 3:01 PM: If ...To anonymous who posted on June 8 at 3:01 PM: If there are "many scriptures that prove the message he is preaching to be true," why don't you explain them? If you cannot, then you are sadly just repeating what you want to believe or have been taught. No one wants to discredit a "pastor." But if that pastor diminishes the Truth with false doctrine - it must be exposed. We are not under a curse as believers...we have the Spirit of Jesus Christ within us if we are "born again" believers: Gal 4:5-6,"...that He might redeem those who were under the Law, that we might receive the adoption as sons. Because you are sons, God has sent forth the Spirit of His Son into our hearts, crying, "Abba! Father!" Also: Galatians 3:13<br />Christ redeemed us from the curse of the law by becoming a curse for us, for it is written: "Cursed is everyone who is hung on a pole." Why would a pastor tell a believer that God would put them under a curse or allow a demon to possess them if they are already indwelled by Christ and already redeemed from the curse? We can't be put under the curse of the law again. This is the NEW COVENANT. Robert Morris is muddying up the beauty of the gospel. He makes God out to be a tyrant and extortionist. The beauty of the gospel that is in the sacrifice of Jesus Christ and what He did for us is lost in Morris' abuse of OT teaching and imposing the law on believers. We are redeemed through the work of Jesus Christ ---- we are not under a curse, nor can we redeem ourselves by our own works. <br />Shilohhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00238711250893037606noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-67716909402044925902014-06-08T15:01:38.250-04:002014-06-08T15:01:38.250-04:00I think everyone one on here is looking for an exc...I think everyone one on here is looking for an excuse to not give to God what's God's, those were Jesus's words not pastor Robert's. Also the bible says that God will rebuke the devourer for our sake. There are many scriptures that prove the message he is preaching to be true. People just want their ears tickled when they don't want to do what God is telling them to. Pastor Robert knows the blessing and the curses that come with tithing or not tithing and he simply wants his church family to be blessed and isn't scared to tell you the truth. It saddens me how people will hear the truth of scripture and not like What is saying and blame it on the Pastor and try to discredit him but obviously God is pleased because He has entrusted him with so much.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-24253457100824352092013-12-01T16:22:41.838-05:002013-12-01T16:22:41.838-05:00Our Pastor tells the congregation that if they don...Our Pastor tells the congregation that if they don't tithe, they don't love God. He says he tithes, which I do believe he does, BUT...The church makes his house payment. his electric, and his cell phone, Gas, and his IRA.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-3830239794569296812013-10-14T21:03:54.214-04:002013-10-14T21:03:54.214-04:00It's a manipulation; a manipulation to control...<i>It's a manipulation; a manipulation to control you and get your money. I didn't want it to be the case, but it is.</i><br /><br />Sad but true.New BBC Open Forumhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18300115421477555376noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-64827749603173789892013-10-13T12:46:09.969-04:002013-10-13T12:46:09.969-04:00Robert Morris used to be associate pastor at a cha...Robert Morris used to be associate pastor at a charismatic church I visited a few times. I remember one weekend was his last time there as he was starting his own congregation. I guess the pull of being in charge of the funds were just too appealing. Marknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-22617633118389643662013-10-11T13:59:06.219-04:002013-10-11T13:59:06.219-04:00Which is exactly why I don't go to this church...Which is exactly why I don't go to this church, anymore. Robert's "followers" are just as condescending and spiteful. I know a person who was facing foreclosure and when she confided in a church member, that person sent her pictures of homeless lady saying this is what she would look like. I saw the emails. There are several other examples of this, but I'm trying to conserve space here.<br /><br />Construction workers were being blackballed from work for speaking out about working conditions during the construction of the new church. I saw a woman who couldn't feed her children being reduced to tears by their browbeating. I was told I needed mental health counseling because I was concerned about the state of affairs in our nation. I was asked to sign a contract to participate in a church club, which I couldn't get out of (laughable). I found out firsthand how the church works with local police to harass people. If you have a problem the church can't control or "fix," then yes, you are told you're possessed by demons. Been there, done that.<br /><br />The list goes on. They prey on vulnerable people going through a difficult time. You figure, This must be it! It's got God written on it. They say they're all about people! Surely, I must be reading this wrong. It must be ME who is the problem. All of these wonderful people really care about what I'm going through. I was told I was a part of their "family." <br /><br />There is absolutely nothing worse than looking up to someone as a friend and then finding out not only do they not care about you, they were actively working behind the scenes to try to destroy you. Why? Because you know exactly what they are all about, and it sure isn't people.<br /><br />Finally I realized, this wasn't really a House of God after all. It wasn't supposed to hurt to be a part of something that was supposed to make me feel better about facing the world.<br /><br />It's a manipulation; a manipulation to control you and get your money. I didn't want it to be the case, but it is. One of the worst examples out there. <br /><br />And no watchdog, I don't think the pastors believe any of what they say. It's a show and a paycheck and the chance to be a big shot. That's about it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-79321629597876041092013-10-10T12:56:57.462-04:002013-10-10T12:56:57.462-04:00I tithe and I am blessed. I have good health, good...I tithe and I am blessed. I have good health, good marriage, and my car is running real good. I know why...God promises to rebuke the enemy off my car and marriage and refrigerator.<br /><br />Really? Where does God promise “to rebuke the enemy off my car and marriage and refrigerator? Don’t remember anything in the Bible about a “car” or “refrigerator.” <br /><br />Don’t get me wrong, I think it’s great that you tithe, please give and give some more. However, does the fact that things are going good in the material realm mean that things are just as good in the spiritual? By correlation, do own the same car you have always owned? The same refrigerator? If not, why did you replace them? I assume by “good marriage” you still have the same wife you started with.<br />WishIhadknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12487727353887788291noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-58215116135627736612013-10-10T11:29:25.575-04:002013-10-10T11:29:25.575-04:00Pretty sure neither Jesus nor the disciples ever t...Pretty sure neither Jesus nor the disciples ever told anyone they cast demons out of "now go start tithing so this won't ever happen again."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-49626459326655563072013-10-10T08:55:21.212-04:002013-10-10T08:55:21.212-04:00Bill Rogers wrote: "I tithe and I am blessed....Bill Rogers wrote: "I tithe and I am blessed. I have good health, good marriage, and my car is running real good. I know why...God promises to rebuke the enemy off my car and marriage and refrigerator."<br /><br />Sounds like a great God. I want my health and wealth too. Where do I sign up? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-40030836179713632072013-10-09T14:41:22.842-04:002013-10-09T14:41:22.842-04:00To Robber...err...Robert Morris:
STICK IT!!!!!!To Robber...err...Robert Morris:<br /><br />STICK IT!!!!!!The Other Tomnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-26906083462745299932013-10-09T14:12:07.950-04:002013-10-09T14:12:07.950-04:00Gotta go for the 17,000 sq ft house and beat Furti...Gotta go for the 17,000 sq ft house and beat Furtick. Certainly God cant be blessing him More than Robert or that would mean his message was wrong!?!<br />THats what theyve reduced the gospel to...and thats why ya gotta shine the light! Kudos WD :)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-5491840054938205482013-10-09T14:03:45.862-04:002013-10-09T14:03:45.862-04:00Rich, FYI I have read some deliverance books that...Rich, FYI I have read some deliverance books that actually teach this in regards to tithing. Morris may be referring to their teaching. Eric Hill is actually one in the deliverance ministry that does not teach this and states that it is exploitation. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-81595825555970816042013-10-09T13:59:41.202-04:002013-10-09T13:59:41.202-04:00I'm not going to be able to sleep tonight. I ...I'm not going to be able to sleep tonight. I am so scared of demons coming after me.Julie Annehttp://www.spiritualsoundingboard.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-72219366775656847322013-10-09T13:59:17.992-04:002013-10-09T13:59:17.992-04:00I tithe and I am blessed. I have good health, good...I tithe and I am blessed. I have good health, good marriage, and my car is running real good. I know why...God promises to rebuke the enemy off my car and marriage and refrigerator. Watchdog, you have said repeatedly that you do not tithe. I want to know.."Why did Mac haul you in court?" Or was it Mac? Could it be that God brought you in the "earthly" courtroom as a warning before you go to the "heavenly" courtroom. HE will judge the greedy and the thieves. Get your hand off the computer and get it on your checkbook and get right with God.Bill Rogershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10916859676738369373noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-81536248222877556402013-10-09T08:41:53.790-04:002013-10-09T08:41:53.790-04:00There is an ENTIRE Bible to preach from, with an e...There is an ENTIRE Bible to preach from, with an endless list of approaches to use.<br /><br />I can't accept that the Holy Spirit leads guys to preach THIS MANY messages on tithing/giving.<br /><br />Guide folks to spiritual health and everything else will take care of itself!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-18101882433595930212013-10-09T04:52:09.118-04:002013-10-09T04:52:09.118-04:00Sad, so sad, that good people choose to be berated...Sad, so sad, that good people choose to be berated and humiliated at the feet of a rich man! Why don't they walk out and never come back?Dougnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-67207998770361452013-10-09T01:07:33.023-04:002013-10-09T01:07:33.023-04:00Would suggest writing Geoffrey Cohen the Messianic...Would suggest writing Geoffrey Cohen the Messianic minister associated with him and Gateway on this issue. Messianic Jews that I know state that tithing is subject to only the Temple and Israel.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-56100058819633828562013-10-08T23:19:47.530-04:002013-10-08T23:19:47.530-04:00In defense to Mr. Morris, I truly believe, that he...<i>In defense to Mr. Morris, I truly believe, that he believes, this teaching is true and is how the church is to give.</i><br /><br />I often wonder: do these guys actually believe these stories about the tithe being a magical ingredient to success? They can't, unless they've been brainwashed. There is absolutely zero evidence that it is true. None. It is NOT true that people who don't tithe - for whatever reason - are not blessed, or that they are cursed, etc. <br /><br />So I believe that they would not pass a lie detector test if they were asked if they believe what they preach about tithing. No way.FBC Jax Watchdoghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10740366031265491559noreply@blogger.com