tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post3916526525227848878..comments2024-03-23T22:54:58.661-04:00Comments on FBC Jax Watchdogs: Tiffany Croft Has Started New Blog - B&H Publishing Agrees to Remove the False Portions from Vines' Autobiography Dealing with GilyardFBC Jax Watchdoghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10740366031265491559noreply@blogger.comBlogger16125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-13652159475143737572014-07-06T15:48:06.425-04:002014-07-06T15:48:06.425-04:00http://www.christianpost.com/news/pastors-sex-offe...http://www.christianpost.com/news/pastors-sex-offender-status-divides-fla-community-70039/<br /><br />Seems he sang a different tune here????Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-47590880527172269482014-07-06T15:46:35.599-04:002014-07-06T15:46:35.599-04:00I wonder if Jerry Vines donates part of his 75K a ...I wonder if Jerry Vines donates part of his 75K a year to "advance" the FBC Kingdom and Brunsonland?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-22415602417088315652014-06-25T20:21:01.768-04:002014-06-25T20:21:01.768-04:00Where can one read Hinson's deposition? Thanks...Where can one read Hinson's deposition? ThanksAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-79574866099931643372014-06-25T10:00:09.810-04:002014-06-25T10:00:09.810-04:00Where are all of the anonymous posters that claime...Where are all of the anonymous posters that claimed the Watchdog was wrong about the reference in the book? Where did they go? <br /><br />It sure got quiet around here. ;-)J Pownoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-80371643659338454982014-06-25T00:50:08.280-04:002014-06-25T00:50:08.280-04:00Rhology: "No way! Far better to cover up sex ...Rhology: "No way! Far better to cover up sex predators than to speak uncomfortable truth. Just ask the Vatican."<br /><br />Or Sovereign Grace Ministries.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-55975653528146521042014-06-24T18:20:21.903-04:002014-06-24T18:20:21.903-04:00What is this about Hinson's deposition? Some o...What is this about Hinson's deposition? Some of us are easily confused.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-29130934237455303072014-06-24T11:44:06.509-04:002014-06-24T11:44:06.509-04:00What? No chapter on the infamous Watchdog? Nothin...What? No chapter on the infamous Watchdog? Nothing about how the 'dawg was a long time member of Vine's church and how poorly Vines and the church mishandled the situation? Nothing about how Vines gave the wrong name to church officials (and the JSO investigating officer) which resulted in a deacon and trustee paying a visit to the wrong man's house. And of course never apologized to that man when it was discovered he had wrongly accused the man? How do I know Vines accused the wrong man? Check out the deposition transcript of Detective Robert A. Hinson.<br /><br /> Vines owes apologies to a lot more people than Tiffany. What a legacy. Old, bald insecure bitter bully who helped take over the SBC and then watch it decline every year since. None of that in his book though. I guess "it's in da book" and "take it up with da book" don't apply to Vines' biography. Better to "take it up with da publisher" and "it's NOT in da book."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-68630049330528871512014-06-23T19:20:05.932-04:002014-06-23T19:20:05.932-04:00I'm sure Tiffany at some point will elaborate ...I'm sure Tiffany at some point will elaborate on this, that is the response she received to her concerns from Vines, versus the response she received from Jennifer at B & H. So I would reserve judgment until Tiffany tells the whole story. FBC Jax Watchdoghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10740366031265491559noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-44811931073155447442014-06-23T17:36:23.375-04:002014-06-23T17:36:23.375-04:00So it sounds like the publisher has taken responsi...So it sounds like the publisher has taken responsibility for inaccurate statements but the author has not.<br /><br />What does that say about the author?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-16941653222531962772014-06-23T13:45:17.795-04:002014-06-23T13:45:17.795-04:00
Has it been mentioned here that just a few days ...<br /><br />Has it been mentioned here that just a few days ago Vines was on the platform at the SBC in Baltimore being celebrated for said book and was presented with a special copy. We were urged to get the book which I understood he would autograph in the exibit area. It all seemed contrived, awkward and inappropriate.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-31121816632094228912014-06-23T13:33:39.986-04:002014-06-23T13:33:39.986-04:00I hope that both B&H and Jerry Vines will issu...<i>I hope that both B&H and Jerry Vines will issue a press release apologizing for the misstatements in Vines' book.</i><br /><br />No way! Far better to cover up sex predators than to speak uncomfortable truth. Just ask the Vatican.Rhologyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14245825667079220242noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-50846676361214458522014-06-23T12:25:21.662-04:002014-06-23T12:25:21.662-04:00Might this in some way be related to the current e...Might this in some way be related to the current exodus of more FBC Jax members?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-50233734453820254412014-06-23T12:00:38.821-04:002014-06-23T12:00:38.821-04:00This is a step in the right direction, but it'...This is a step in the right direction, but it's not enough. They need to require what James Frey's publishers made him do in subsequent printings - include a preface that explains the falsehoods. Vines needs to be required to explain why he stated he understood it to be only flirtation, and why he stated that they were both single at the time.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-39717326231329945422014-06-23T11:54:23.227-04:002014-06-23T11:54:23.227-04:00Congratulations to both you and Tiffany on achievi...Congratulations to both you and Tiffany on achieving this result. Well done, and keep it up!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-33889690963813062032014-06-23T11:48:13.927-04:002014-06-23T11:48:13.927-04:00And what is most confusing, is that instead of thi...<i>And what is most confusing, is that instead of this person becoming your rescuer and defender...most shocking is they now begin to turn it on you. <br />"Have you told anyone else? Who else knows?" <br />"For now, let's just keep this between us ok?"<br />"Were you in anyway a participant in this, I mean, did you maybe flirt a little, or dress a little provocatively?"<br />"Why were you ever alone with him at the church, didn't you know better?" <br />"Did you tell him no?"<br /><br />And you feel as if your chest will burst as it all rises up inside of you, as you feel the same feelings of abuse again at this very moment when you should be feeling a release of the burden and embraced in compassion to salve the wounds. Instead, the wound is more raw now, and you feel a little anger mix in, your pride is trying to rise up again, and you shut down.<br /><br />Next, this person asks you to keep more secrets, keep it quiet...and you feel more burdened and ashamed. Maybe they ask you to give them a little time to "figure out the most appropriate way to deal with this," and the next few times you see them in the halls at church, they avoid you. All of a sudden they are too busy, or they "haven't had enough time yet to investigate your accusations"...and you hang your head a little lower and you pull away. </i><br /><br />Compare the above to Jerry Vines version in the book. Welcome to the SBC ladies and gentleman. We are not what we appear to be. <br />Debbie Kaufmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17748664558802779885noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-60263495080814936222014-06-23T10:53:08.709-04:002014-06-23T10:53:08.709-04:00Did Vines' book mentions that he still gets pa...Did Vines' book mentions that he still gets paid $75,000 per year, for life, from FBC Jacksonville? <br /><br />Or did he include a section stating his huge role in the rise to prominence of Butch Caner from Ohio? Did he say whether he believed Michael Caner was a trained terrorist, but that "perhaps he misunderstood" Caner's decade of deceit.<br /><br />What did his book say about his preaching at Trinity in the midst of lawsuits regarding Bob Gray's molestation of children and Tom Messer's recording admitting he knew about it and covered it up?<br /><br />Maybe B&H should know how incomplete the bio, self-serving puff piece really is.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com