tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post4489055135465413214..comments2024-03-23T22:54:58.661-04:00Comments on FBC Jax Watchdogs: Prestonwood Baptist Doesn't Call the Cops on the Molester, But They Call the Cops on the Church Member Who Asks Questions About the MolesterFBC Jax Watchdoghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10740366031265491559noreply@blogger.comBlogger44125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-56168779399623695672013-07-31T16:28:39.506-04:002013-07-31T16:28:39.506-04:00EXPLAINING AWAY MARK 16:16
Faith only believer wa...EXPLAINING AWAY MARK 16:16<br /><br />Faith only believer want Mark 16:16 to just go away. It will not go away, so they try to explain it away. Over 100 translations of the Bible include Mark 16:16, however, that does deter some faith only believers from insinuating or simply stating that Mark 16:16 should not be including in the Bible because it was missing from a couple of manuscripts. If you believe God has a hand in guiding men to translate the Bible correctly, then have to believe Mark 16:16 should be included. If you do not believe the Bible has been translated accurately, then I would suggest that you burn all of your Bibles.<br /><br />EXPLAINING AWAY<br /><br />Mark 16:16 He who has believed and has been baptized shall be saved; but he who has disbelieved shall be condemned.<br /><br />The most popular way of explaining away Mark 16:16 is to say that it does not say, that he who has not been baptized will be condemned, therefore water baptism is not essential to be saved.<br /><br />If a secular law were written as such: He who does not commit robbery and does not murder will not go to prison; but he who commits robbery will go to jail. Would that mean you can still murder and not go to jail; because it does not state murderers will go to jail? NOT MURDERING IS ESSENTIAL TO NOT GOING TO JAIL!<br /><br />Being baptized is essential to not being condemned.<br /><br />There have been many attempts to explain water baptism away from Mark 16:16, including denying that, and, is a conjunction linking belief and baptism. Many attempts at distorting the simple meaning of words and sentence structure are used. Grammatical distortions are used in order to make Mark 16:16 fit the "faith only" narrative.<br /><br />HAS BEEN BAPTIZED SHALL BE SAVED, STILL MEANS WATER BAPTISM IS ESSENTIAL FOR SALVATION NO MATTER HOW MEN TRY TO EXPLAIN IT AWAY. <br /><br /><br /><br />YOU ARE INVITED TO FOLLOWING MY CHRISTIAN BLOG. Google search>>>>steve finnell a christian viewSteve Finnellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12863026367048527526noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-13432199636287693332013-04-24T11:56:01.610-04:002013-04-24T11:56:01.610-04:00Has anyone heard from Chris lately? Has anyone heard from Chris lately? Amy Smithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09238444710658478191noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-1890987172596138292013-03-25T10:26:12.442-04:002013-03-25T10:26:12.442-04:00"Oh my goodness. That is so crazy. WHY!!! WHY..."Oh my goodness. That is so crazy. WHY!!! WHY!!! This makes me sick."<br /><br />The FALSE PROPHET TROLL is on both sides of this issue.<br /><br />Posting comments both for and against this church. <br /><br />You should really get a hobby. I hear that stamp collecting is fun.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-28993253243760639002013-03-22T21:39:21.127-04:002013-03-22T21:39:21.127-04:00Oh my goodness. That is so crazy. WHY!!! WHY!!! Th...Oh my goodness. That is so crazy. WHY!!! WHY!!! This makes me sick.<br /><br />I hate to assume that the church cares more about their reputation and money than their children. But what else could make them act like this?<br /><br />The people ARE the church!<br />The children ARE the church!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-53592568888381132452013-03-21T17:15:56.347-04:002013-03-21T17:15:56.347-04:00Anonymous March 19, 2:33. Thank you for being a l...Anonymous March 19, 2:33. Thank you for being a living witness to all Watchdog and Krista have said. How many children could have been saved from harm has your church security team been as "polite" toward Mr. Langworthy as they were to Chris. What if he had been reported to the authorities. Claiming God's grace does not excuse the moral failure of Prestonwood and its pastor. Langworthy's crimes started there: the church did nothing to prevent it from happening to other children at other churches or schools. Prestonwood must be held responsible. That would be a demonstration of God's grace toward the victims. Grace is free, but it ain't cheap.Jimnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-60290240114530970362013-03-20T19:08:58.474-04:002013-03-20T19:08:58.474-04:00Do you know that Prestonwood Baptist church holds ...Do you know that Prestonwood Baptist church holds (or at least held in the past, 2007) training courses on church security:<br /><br />http://churchsecurityresources.com/Events.html<br /><br />Notice this one<br /><br />"Disruptive Persons"<br /><br />other courses....<br /><br />"Behavior Observation"<br />"Pastor Protection"<br />"Monitoring Services"<br /><br />Well known Bellevue Baptist Church, used them to train their staff after the Paul Williams event.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-34891140771568535822013-03-20T18:18:25.693-04:002013-03-20T18:18:25.693-04:00Do you know that Prestonwood Baptist church holds ...Do you know that Prestonwood Baptist church holds training in church security:<br /><br />http://churchsecurityresources.com/Events.html<br /><br />Notice the next available course<br /><br />"Disruptive Persons"<br /><br />other courses....<br /><br />"Behavior Observation"<br />"Pastor Protection"<br />"Monitoring Services"<br /><br />Well known Steve Gaines, had his church, Bellevue Baptist, use them to train their staff after the Paul Williams event.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-12860931025236061142013-03-20T18:16:34.765-04:002013-03-20T18:16:34.765-04:00Do you know that Prestonwood Baptist church holds ...Do you know that Prestonwood Baptist church holds training in church security:<br /><br />http://churchsecurityresources.com/Events.html<br /><br />Notice the next available course<br /><br />"Disruptive Persons"<br /><br />other courses....<br /><br />"Behavior Observation"<br />"Pastor Protection"<br />"Monitoring Services"<br /><br />Well known Steve Gaines, had his church, Bellevue Baptist, use them to train their staff after the Paul Williams event.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-43718394407367755732013-03-20T17:01:50.857-04:002013-03-20T17:01:50.857-04:00Anon 2:33 PM,
You are factually wrong. Prestonwo...Anon 2:33 PM,<br /><br />You are factually wrong. Prestonwood did file the police report. Grace was and is conveyed to Langworthy that was not and is not extended to Tynes.<br /><br />All the other Anons, would you like to recommend to me some churches? Mass conversions seems to go hand and hand with a lot of this. Perhaps mass conversions catch the attention of the media.Moses Modelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16027355755303728808noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-53138827604017021572013-03-20T09:09:12.189-04:002013-03-20T09:09:12.189-04:00This is an amazing coicidence. The FALSE PROPHET T...This is an amazing coicidence. The FALSE PROPHET TROLL seems to be a member of every church that has been discussed on this blog.<br /><br />Now he is a part of the security team at Prestonwood. Um, yeah right.<br /><br />"Thank God for Grace!"<br /><br />Well, except when it comes to giving right?<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-42875443183778178522013-03-19T14:33:59.735-04:002013-03-19T14:33:59.735-04:00We did not call the "Cops", we called ou...We did not call the "Cops", we called our Security team.<br /><br />Listen and watch the politeness of the security team member towards Chris.<br /><br />This is the Prestonwood that I am a part of and am very proud of.<br /><br />Yes, we had a monster that molested kids as part of our Church Staff. But we love him too.<br /><br />Thank God for Grace!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-63966446319015906942013-03-19T09:56:14.759-04:002013-03-19T09:56:14.759-04:00The FALSE PROPHET TROLL is back.
His mom must hav...The FALSE PROPHET TROLL is back.<br /><br />His mom must have let him back in the basement again.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-27971256331828507642013-03-19T03:41:30.957-04:002013-03-19T03:41:30.957-04:00At Anonymous who said,
"It is really odd tha...At Anonymous who said, <br />"It is really odd that the only churches you pick on are Bible believing Churches?"<br /><br />Huh, maybe because it's obvious to Christians who already have a fairly or very conservative slant on the Bible that the Rob Bells, and proponents of homosexual marriage, etc, are in error, but people who claim to be conservative Bible believing Christians yet who mistreat other Christians need to be held accountable and called out - some of them are wolves in sheeps clothing and harder to spot than the guys who are obviously wrong in their views on Scripture.<br /><br />The churches that are often criticized here and elsewhere on the web don't care about "soul winning," their preachers care more about about bilking their members out of money to fund their $1.5 million mansions and private jets.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-84049176767592683512013-03-19T03:33:37.122-04:002013-03-19T03:33:37.122-04:00FBC Watchdog, have you seen this-
5G giving progr...FBC Watchdog, have you seen this-<br /><br /><b><a href="http://theelephantsdebt.com/the-er2-story/" rel="nofollow">5G giving program from Harvest Bible Chapel</a></b><br /><br />The pastor hands out pre-printed cards with various amounts (in order from more to less) that members can pledge to the church and tells them,<br /><br />"I’ll tell you how to figure out what the Lord is leading you to pledge. Go down that list – start at the top…and eventually you’re going to get to this place where there are two numbers. The one below – doable. The one above – stretch, faith. Pick the one above, that’s your number."<br /><br />Also check out the page under the tab at the top of the blog entitled "Salary" to see how much money the pastor makes.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-89569102033711591682013-03-18T22:15:35.864-04:002013-03-18T22:15:35.864-04:00Stop Baptist Predators [Christa Brown] > Boots,...<a href="http://stopbaptistpredators.blogspot.com/2013/03/boots-biscuits-and-prestonwood-scandal.html" rel="nofollow">Stop Baptist Predators [Christa Brown] > Boots, biscuits and the Prestonwood scandal</a>Rameshhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09728392311602332613noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-39027339985349808242013-03-18T14:53:22.121-04:002013-03-18T14:53:22.121-04:00It is really odd that the only churches you pick o...It is really odd that the only churches you pick on are Bible believing Churches?<br /><br />You don't criticize these liberal, gay loving, lesbian adopting, Rob Bell reading, Alcohol drinking, Muslim smoozing Churches and bash the Churches that are into soul winning.<br /><br />ShameAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-913634144986178852013-03-18T14:52:42.349-04:002013-03-18T14:52:42.349-04:00It is really odd that the only churches you pick o...It is really odd that the only churches you pick on are Bible believing Churches?<br /><br />You don't criticize these liberal, gay loving, lesbian adopting, Rob Bell reading, Alcohol drinking, Muslim smoozing Churches and bash the Churches that are into soul winning.<br /><br />ShameAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-60690308350318051792013-03-18T08:55:26.796-04:002013-03-18T08:55:26.796-04:00Prestonwood did everything right and to be a Monda...Prestonwood did everything right and to be a Monday morning quarterback is not fair.<br /><br />You try loving a hurting Pastor and also a hurting student.<br /><br />This is not easy, the Catholic Church struggles with this too.<br /><br />Please start praying more and blogging less.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-25638602687489441812013-03-17T19:55:38.992-04:002013-03-17T19:55:38.992-04:00That means he is a relatively new lawyer or new in...That means he is a relatively new lawyer or new in Texas, being licenses in 2007.An attorneynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-18979641869191184962013-03-17T19:54:50.367-04:002013-03-17T19:54:50.367-04:00James,
I don't disagree with your view of sal...James,<br /><br />I don't disagree with your view of salvation, but I do disagree that I was misrepresenting.<br /><br />So extending grace and kindness to a non-repentant homosexual is not allowed? The church doesn't extend saving grace, God does that. We can only be gracious.<br /><br />Which makes my point. Anyone deeming to require less than the rigid standard on a moral issue important to SBC leaders, or even phrasing it in an unacceptable way will be corrected.<br /><br />Those covering up a child molester, on the other hand, get a pass.jlogannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-40592001365976627432013-03-17T00:21:47.271-04:002013-03-17T00:21:47.271-04:00Tom:
Ben Lovvern (Martin Benjamin Lovvern) is a f...Tom:<br /><br />Ben Lovvern (Martin Benjamin Lovvern) is a full timer at Prestonwood.<br /><br />Here is his State Bar of Texas info:<br /><br />http://www.texasbar.com/AM/Template.cfm?Section=Find_A_Lawyer&template=/Customsource/MemberDirectory/MemberDirectoryDetail.cfm&ContactID=298589<br /><br />Bene DAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-59140413386818728342013-03-16T10:05:12.773-04:002013-03-16T10:05:12.773-04:00Here are some good articles concerning Langworthy ...Here are some good articles concerning Langworthy and his protectors:<br /><br />http://stopbaptistpredators.blogspot.com/2013/03/megachurch-calls-cops-on-member-who.html<br /><br />http://thewartburgwatch.com/2012/11/07/phillip-gunn-sbts-al-mohler-legal-rightmoral-right/<br /><br />http://stopbaptistpredators.org/collusion_individuals.html#JackGrahamJamesnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-48135632824518057252013-03-16T09:43:59.942-04:002013-03-16T09:43:59.942-04:00@jlogan
Be accurate in your representation. Only ...@jlogan<br /><br />Be accurate in your representation. Only a practicing homosexual who refused to repent and turn from his sin (like all those saved by Christ should do) would not be allowed to join an SBC church. So it is not true that the SBC doesn't "extend grace to hmosexuals."Jamesnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-28380682971093213162013-03-16T00:41:40.039-04:002013-03-16T00:41:40.039-04:00Looks like the church has influence with media the...Looks like the church has influence with media there: http://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=433554280063744&id=429678530451319<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-83764378291475702902013-03-13T11:58:47.508-04:002013-03-13T11:58:47.508-04:00If Prestonwood had ordained a woman, or knowingly ...If Prestonwood had ordained a woman, or knowingly allowed a homosexual to join their church then the SBC leadership would be all over it and be ready to kick the church out of the convention.<br /><br />But if one of their pastors is a racist or failing to report an accusation regarding child molestation then there is only silence.<br /><br />In the SBC, you can be forgiven for anything except letting a woman lead or extending grace to homosexuals.jlogannoreply@blogger.com