tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post467569980537910362..comments2024-03-23T22:54:58.661-04:00Comments on FBC Jax Watchdogs: Questions for First Baptist Academy at FBC JacksonvilleFBC Jax Watchdoghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10740366031265491559noreply@blogger.comBlogger48125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-45834527528453095282012-11-08T16:33:23.002-05:002012-11-08T16:33:23.002-05:00Watchdogs, I am a member of FBC Jax and really don...Watchdogs, I am a member of FBC Jax and really don't understand why you attack our church and Pastor. I have been a member for over 20 years, very involved in church activities and service to the church and missions. I loved both Dr. Lindsay and Dr. Vines, and miss them dearly. Our church chose a new Pastor and for the most part our congregation was happy with that. As the son of a retired Church Music Director, having lived through several Pastor changes growing up, I can assure you no new Pastor, especially one following two heroes like we had, will make everyone happy. I know you find this hard to believe, but not everyone was a fan of both Dr. Lindsay and Dr. Vines, and that's ok. I believe Dr. Brunson to be cut from the same mold. He has not changed our church's Core values and goal, to reach Jacksonville for Christ. He constantly reminds us of our legacy and urges us to live up to Dr. Lindsay's expectations. You allege many things that are simply not true and be-smudge the legacy of a church who was and is reaching the lost for Christ. My daughter attends the school. I am certainly not rich, but the school is a college prep school, a covenant school intended for the body of Christ to have a safe, college prep education for their children, grounded with a Biblical world view. A covenant school is one where at least one parent must be saved and have a personal testimony for Christ. We do not let anyone who wants attend. We are not looking for money. We are looking for Parents who want their children educated in a college Prep school with high academic standards and taught with a Biblical World view. I would put it up against any other Christian School in Jacksonville. The cost tuition is affordable, compared to the other Christian schools in Jax when you understand that books and many other fees are included. The Junior Academy is accredited and the 1-8th grade section is going through accreditation right now. Early indications are we will pass with flying colors. As far as Catholic students are concerned, as long as the parents agree with the schools statement of faith and understand the Christian tenets they will be taught, I expect they would be welcome. Because of the many fundamental differences our denominations have, I would not expect they would even apply. I would encourage any of the blog readers to come by and check it out. They would be impressed.<br /><br />In Christ Alone, <br /><br />ClintAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-13304062027500830042009-08-04T14:40:02.162-04:002009-08-04T14:40:02.162-04:00I wonder just how many people have posted comments...I wonder just how many people have posted comments like mine only to get this "Your comment has been saved and will be visible after blog owner approval." Are there not two sides to every story?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-40124925926503257642009-08-04T14:37:00.824-04:002009-08-04T14:37:00.824-04:00Can I just add my 2 cents worth here..........I ha...Can I just add my 2 cents worth here..........I have sadly read these post against God's house and the men God has placed in the position of authority. Can I just simply state that they Bible tells us that if we have something against one of our brothers or sisters in Christ, we are to go to them with it. Nowhere does it state to post a hateful blog looking for any way you can degrade or shed a negative light on that child of God. The Bible also tells us to not become a stumbling block to others..........I would simply hate to be in your shoes when Christ shows you just who all you have caused to stumble when in fact our eyes are not to be on man but focused on Christ. Nowhere in "man" so full of hate, doubt and pure ugliness, not a single trait that could be attributed to a man that seeks to walk in Christ's footsteps. I will continue to pray for each and every one of you. I also pray that you rememeber that those who are without sin can cast the first stone.........Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-2157769322267932572008-11-27T11:13:00.000-05:002008-11-27T11:13:00.000-05:00Almost $6K for kindergarden! Who do they think th...Almost $6K for kindergarden! Who do they think they are, Bolles?<BR/><BR/>Additionally, why would I send my kid downtown unless my law office was in Blackstone or I was an executive in city gov-ment or perhaps a judge?<BR/><BR/>For my money, I would send my kids out to Providence. Great facilities and annointed leadership, something baptist believe passed away.The Dogs Doghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09425531149766027609noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-50784018386974004752008-11-27T00:21:00.000-05:002008-11-27T00:21:00.000-05:00And Junkster, the big problem with all this strate...And Junkster, the big problem with all this strategic manuevering is that this isn't an example from the Kingdom, as if it came from the principles derived from the Sermon on the Mount. No, instead, it just another disgraceful example of business as usual derived from the world. Self promotion and preservation, and collateral damage be damned.<BR/><BR/>Just sayin'.<BR/>oc.ochttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00910693449008506409noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-43458873421230950832008-11-27T00:05:00.000-05:002008-11-27T00:05:00.000-05:00Thy Peace 7:39pm...Thanks for your input on the co...Thy Peace 7:39pm...Thanks for your input on the controversy surrounding Calvinism within the SBC. What I do not understand is why and how anyone (theologian or any believer) can forget that Jesus told Nichodemus "ye must be born again". The born again experience includes all humanity, not just Nichodemus. Why else would Jesus have said "Ye Must Be Born Again"? Nichodemus was religious but he was without salvation. He had to give his will over to that of accepting Jesus as God and Savior just like everyone else after the crucifixion, as his following the Laws, sacrifices, and religious training could not save him. Works is exactly that, works. <BR/><BR/>Secondly, the words of scripture in Romans 5 vs 12-21 outlines that sin passed from Adam to all of us. It passed through the blood of Adam down through all mankind. That is why the second Adam, Jesus Christ, removes the sin that came through the blood of Adam and grace abounds even more. Because Jesus Christ had no earthly father the sin in the blood never passed to him. Jesus was free from sin and that is why his death on the Cross is the perfect sacrifice. We all need that great salvation. God so loved the world (everyone). Yes, and God knows everything from Genesis to Revelation and beyond, He wrote it. That's what makes him God and us just mortal until we get our resurrected bodies that will be like His. We see through a glass darkly today, but in heaven face to face.<BR/><BR/>Lastly, in Eph. 6 vs 13 we read "In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that Holy Spirit of promise". That sealing last forever, and its called eternal life. Jesus said that "No man shall pluck you out of my hand". Notice as saved sinners we are in Jesus' hand and he will never forsake or leave us. He speaks this promise to us. <BR/><BR/>Notice I never mentioned anyone's name: Tyndale, Calvin, Spurgeon, Moody, etc,etc. God is the authority not any man. Man has no part in salvation, except to believe and accept it. <BR/><BR/>The Word of God has been around for 2000 years long before these men were born (at least 1500 years). God does not necessairly need you or me or anyone else to explain how to be saved as it is written down for all who will read the Bible. Reading the Bible alone has convicted many people. That's why we have the only true means for determining what salvation is really all about, the written word of God. Although Jesus did establish the church. And uses preachers and born again laymen to lead others to Himself. They also must trust the written Word for the message given to man. <BR/><BR/>Again, thanks for you input. All should read the sites you suggest as the Calvinism and Anti-Calvinism is really not worthwhile to engage in giving it this much importance. Calvinism cannot and should not be believed by any serious Bible believer or any true Christian. It conflicts with the Bible on every page. A true study of the Word reveals the fallacy of Calvinism. My opinion is it lessens the real witness of the Word and the part the Holy Spirit has in winning the lost. Satan knows how to seperate us whether we be Southern or Independent Baptist. Calvinism's argument kills itself. If God chooses whom He will save, why did He go to the Cross for the sins of the whole world? Or why would He go to the Cross at all, if He had predetermined who would be saved? I like countless others look to the Cross and the perfect shed blood of Jesus the Son of God for my salvation!!!<BR/><BR/>I personally believe if preachers would concentrate on pastoring their flocks, with strong preaching and Bible exposition, the churches would once again be filled even to the overflow. It's simply what Paul told Titus: Preach the Word. Too many are getting sidetracked on arguing, egotism, and works, anything other than preaching the Word. If Satan can get the preachers eyes off of Jesus then usually the flock will follow.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-30348221496302619042008-11-26T22:43:00.000-05:002008-11-26T22:43:00.000-05:00OC,You make excellent points. We do need to keep i...OC,<BR/>You make excellent points. We do need to keep in mind that, with these controlling types of church leaders, if they can help it, nothing hits the public eye without a strategic reason. We have seen deflection used like this before, huh? I hate being cynical, but if we learned anything from the mess at Bellevue, it was that anyone and everyone can get thrown under the bus for the sake of the senior pastor.Junksterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14422651080120306816noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-77184655513528288842008-11-26T21:39:00.000-05:002008-11-26T21:39:00.000-05:00Dog,The very fact a machine that big will resort t...Dog,<BR/>The very fact a machine that big will resort to whining says that what you are doing is definitely working. It has been said that sometimes truth hurts. There are some signs that truth is doing just that. Smyrl is squirming. His boss is the reason why. It will all come out. Keep on doing the right thing.<BR/><BR/>Just sayin'.<BR/>oc.ochttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00910693449008506409noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-9557377036268973682008-11-26T21:12:00.000-05:002008-11-26T21:12:00.000-05:00Junskster,The "Catholic/cult thing, as you know, i...Junskster,<BR/>The "Catholic/cult thing, as you know, is a desperate attempt to deflect heat from a the real problem. Smyrl is trying to cool Mac's tail but even with all his rhetoric and education, Smyrl is charging hell with a squirt gun at this point. Mac's tail is on fire, and Smyrl's livelihood lies in putting the fire out. And now they have enlisted others with squirt guns penning love letters in an attempt to douse the flames. He certainly knows what he's doing.<BR/><BR/>Just sayin'.<BR/>oc.ochttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00910693449008506409noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-54520714733404394572008-11-26T19:39:00.000-05:002008-11-26T19:39:00.000-05:00Readers, in SBC there is never a dull moment. I on...Readers, in SBC there is never a dull moment. I only included portions that are relevant to fbcjax.<BR/><BR/>Here is the portion of the letter written by David Miller to Jerry Vines after John 3:16 conference:<BR/><BR/><I>"While your speakers correctly rebuke the Presbyterians for infant baptism I might remind you that the only area where southern Baptists have had an increase in baptisms is among 4 and 5 year olds! This is happening in "your kind" of churches. <BR/><BR/>It is not the Calvinists who have built a convention of 16 million members, 4 million of which could not be found if your life depended on it. You have done this! This has happened on your watch! It is your fault! You have been in charge! "Your kind" of evangelism and methodology has produced this colossal number of unregenerate church members. <BR/><BR/>In your church in Jacksonville and Johnny's church in Woodstock, less than half of your members come to church on Sundays. Why don't you stop blaming the Calvinists and take responsibility for your own actions! Your church is doing no better than the average church in the convention in this area. My guess is, your church has spent more money on interest on debt service in the past 15 years than it has on foreign missions. <BR/><BR/>Don't blame the Calvinists for your lack of compassion for the lost and your unwillingness to sacrifice to take the gospel to the ends of the earth. I for one am sick of your duplicity and hypocrisy. <BR/><BR/>Furthermore, don't blame the Calvinists for all the church splits. Was it the Calvinists that split Bellevue after Adrian died? Hardly! Is there any empirical evidence that there is a higher percentage of church splits caused by Calvinists than the other brethren? Not on your life! There is enough stupidity to go around. Calvinists do not have a monopoly on pastoral stupidity. "</I><BR/><A HREF="http://peterlumpkins.typepad.com/peter_lumpkins/2008/11/tom-ascol-the-john-316-conference-and-widening-the-divide-an-appraisal-part-i.html" REL="nofollow">Peter Lumpkins Blog: Tom Ascol, The John 3:16 Conference and Widening the Divide: An Appraisal: Part I</A><BR/><BR/>Please also read Jerry Vines reply to David Miller in the above link.<BR/><BR/>Brief History of John 3:16 Conference held recently by Jerry Vines Ministries:<BR/><BR/>Jerry Vines convened the conference to question Calvinism in SBC. David Allen gave a controversial lecture where he labeled some individuals Hyper-Calvinist (a pejorative term). Examples: James White, George Ella and others. And this created a ruckus in SBC and Calvinists in arms over the treatment they have received.<BR/><BR/>Some useful links:<BR/><BR/><A HREF="http://kerussocharis.blogspot.com/2008/11/john-316-conference-at-fbc-woodstock.html" REL="nofollow">The John 3:16 Conference at FBC Woodstock</A><BR/><A HREF="http://kerussocharis.blogspot.com/2008/11/foreknowledge-means-more-than-just-to.html" REL="nofollow">"Foreknowledge" Means More Than Just to Know</A><BR/><A HREF="http://kerussocharis.blogspot.com/2008/11/problem-with-calling-people-hyper.html" REL="nofollow">The Problem of Calling People Hyper-Calvinists</A><BR/><BR/>James White responded to his critics:<BR/><A HREF="http://aomin.org/aoblog/index.php?itemid=2955" REL="nofollow">A Quick Refutation of Dr. Allen from London</A><BR/><A HREF="http://www.aomin.org/aoblog/index.php?itemid=2956" REL="nofollow">Update from the PyroManiac/John 3:16 Conference</A><BR/><BR/>Then David Allen responds to James White's "criticism":<BR/><A HREF="http://peterlumpkins.typepad.com/peter_lumpkins/2008/11/hypercalvinism-professor-david-allen-responds-to-critics-1.html" REL="nofollow">HyperCalvinism: Professor David Allen Responds to Critics</A><BR/><BR/>Then others respond to David Allen:<BR/><A HREF="http://www.founders.org/blog/2008/11/sbc-and-calvinism-three-events-that.html" REL="nofollow">SBC and Calvinism: Three events that widened the divide</A><BR/><A HREF="http://www.aomin.org/aoblog/index.php?itemid=2988" REL="nofollow">David Allen's False Accusation</A><BR/><BR/><B>Life is never dull at SBC.</B>Rameshhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09728392311602332613noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-32241114754453554752008-11-26T19:25:00.000-05:002008-11-26T19:25:00.000-05:00Re: the "Love Letter" ... I think it was originall...Re: the "Love Letter" ... I think it was originally intended to be directed only to Mac, and only as an afterthought did they add "Staff, and Members" to the salutation. The tribute of praise to their hero was already complete, but they thought later that if addressed only to him their hero worship might be a bit obvious, so they added "staff and members" to the start in an attempt to obfuscate their real intent.<BR/><BR/>And, by the way, I always thought Thanksgiving was about thanking God, not your pastor. It's one thing to say "We thank you, Lord, for our wonderful pastor," and quite another to say, "We thank you, pastor, for being so wonderful." Big difference.Junksterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14422651080120306816noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-43539213400273900092008-11-26T19:13:00.000-05:002008-11-26T19:13:00.000-05:00I just sent the following comment to Jim Smyrl via...I just sent the following comment to Jim Smyrl via the "Contact Me" link on his blog:<BR/><BR/><I>Jim, <BR/>You are an intelligent man, so some part of you must realize you are being disingenuous by equating concerns that have been expressed about your choice to label Catholicism as a "cult" to a reluctance to call sin, sin, or to an unwillingness to critically examine the errors of the Catholic religion. From what I know of your doctrine, I suspect that you and I would agree on most points, and I have the same objections to Catholic doctrine as you. But that isn't the point, and I believe you know it. The criticisms of your "Catholic Cult" sessions are not arising from the view that we should not publicly state our disagreement with Catholics. Rather, the concern is the inflammatory (and misleading) use of the term "cult" to refer to a historic, mainstream branch of Christendom. Yes, there is much to criticize and condemn in Catholic theology and practice, but to call the Catholic church a cult is inappropriate, and if you really don't know that from a historical, and theological perspective, you really ought to go back to the schools that gave you your theological credentials and ask them to refund your tuition, because they clearly did not teach you well. But, again, I believe you do know the truth on this matter, and are purposefully using inflammatory rhetoric to gain readership and attention for your blog. Seek to justify your choice all you wish, but the One who judges rightly knows the truth.<BR/>Sincerely,<BR/>J M</I><BR/><BR/>-------<BR/><BR/>I don't expect much to come of it, except perhaps more of the same self-justifying argumentation he already demonstrated in his first article in the series. (Can you say "straw man"? Geesh!)<BR/><BR/><BR/><BR/>And re: the FB Academy ... it is interesting that the school website indicates that it is part of the <A HREF="http://www.sbacs.org/" REL="nofollow">Southern Baptist Association of Christian Schools</A>. According to that organization's website, Southern Baptist churches should start schools as a strategy for church growth and discipleship, and those schools should be "<I>open to the children of their communities and sponsored/supported by churches and denominational entities so that any child could attend without regard to family income (just as we now do Sunday school)</I>". That last part is not exactly the pattern Mac's school is following, huh?<BR/><BR/><BR/>Word verification: "winging" -- kinda like how Mac runs things, just winging it as he goes ...Junksterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14422651080120306816noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-49119306936906349782008-11-26T19:12:00.000-05:002008-11-26T19:12:00.000-05:00May I ask what the problem is with the church star...May I ask what the problem is with the church starting a school? People have wanted them to do it for years. All of these schools named that are considered "quality" christian education had to START somewhere. They would have never gotten to where they are had they never begun. I believe that within a few years the school needs to be self sufficient, not relying on church funds to keep it going. I think it will do this. I am just really not sure why the complaints about the idea First Baptist can have a school.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-28931151442596111752008-11-26T18:59:00.000-05:002008-11-26T18:59:00.000-05:00WDWhat happened to a post I saw this morning where...WD<BR/><BR/>What happened to a post I saw this morning where it appeared you were responding to some other post and you said "Nice Try Weeping"<BR/><BR/>I posted mine @ 9:14...never saw it again. Weird.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-9261524867644934322008-11-26T17:09:00.000-05:002008-11-26T17:09:00.000-05:00Readers:Click here to view the first version of th...Readers:<BR/><BR/>Click <A HREF="http://www.newbbc.accura.net/LoveLetter.jpg" REL="nofollow">here</A> to view the first version of the "Love Letter". Looks like it was still being edited, and the person editing it didn't remove the edit comments. It was up on the church website for about an hour before they caught the error and changed it.<BR/><BR/>Hmmm, who wrote this? If Bristowe and Soud did write it, why is it being edited down to the comma level? What else was edited?FBC Jax Watchdoghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10740366031265491559noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-68250979286142287102008-11-26T16:39:00.000-05:002008-11-26T16:39:00.000-05:00A movie? Really! May I have the popcorn concession...A movie? Really! May I have the popcorn concession rights? Please, Please! Are we going to have a gala premier? Who stars in this Epic? Wow, a movie!!!!!Do we get to give MORE money for this project? Who dreamed this up, the A,B,or C team? <BR/><BR/>What happened to Christ centered preaching as the "main event", and the Word of the Lord as the "glue" that brings us all together to worship JESUS!!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-54694283730853142592008-11-26T16:23:00.000-05:002008-11-26T16:23:00.000-05:00The fact that the "yes men" put forth this "love l...The fact that the "yes men" put forth this "love letter" to the abusive pastor, and family, tells me they must really be worried, or, they are so arrogant that they think they can "put down" the uprising and discontent, simply because "THEY" have spoken. We are all now to feel relieved that the "yes men", are in control.<BR/><BR/>I have observed these "yes men" for years and knew eventually they would show their less than stellar intelligence (just being nice).<BR/><BR/>If someone has to write a letter of public support, to the pastor, then he is in worse shape than anyone wants to admit (in their camp).<BR/><BR/>Has it occured to any one that the school might be a form of "job protection"? If Brunson leaves another preacher may not want to come into a situation involving the start up of a school as part of his responsibilities. So making it harder to find a pastor replacement. And if we are paying Brunson such a huge salary, how much more will another preacher DEMAND? So I gues it boils down to: If you get the church in enough trouble you don't have to leave!!! Who else wants it!!!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-7697883937483650302008-11-26T16:14:00.000-05:002008-11-26T16:14:00.000-05:00Now THAT is funny, Anon!!That is truly pointing ou...Now THAT is funny, Anon!!<BR/><BR/>That is truly pointing out absurdity by being absurd.<BR/><BR/>Since we're in a humorous, holiday mood:<BR/><BR/>Its been kept mostly a secret up until now, but one of the new "Next Generation" ministry initiatives is that our deacons and trustees have decided to produce their own movie about their experience at FBC Jax, soon to be released. Many of them in fact will be starring in it.<BR/><BR/>To see the movie trailer, click <A HREF="http://yesisthenewno.warnerbros.com/" REL="nofollow">here</A>.FBC Jax Watchdoghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10740366031265491559noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-49242290133388027582008-11-26T15:55:00.000-05:002008-11-26T15:55:00.000-05:00Dear Watchdog:Thank you so very, very much for you...Dear Watchdog:<BR/><BR/>Thank you so very, very much for your unyielding spirit in confronting evil deeds and aspiring giants. Your super imagination and endeavors to bring about justice and let right be done is more reliable than any mega church pastor or group worldwide.<BR/><BR/>We appreciate your graciouness, humility, and strong stand for righteousness it is beyond parallel. <BR/><BR/>Thank you for all the hours of hard work and the manner in which you allow all to visit and take part in the blogosphere that you painstakenly have developed, shared, prayed over. Allowing all of us who shared in the legacy of the Lindsays for sixty years, to post our dismay at the current regime. <BR/><BR/>While you have only been with us for two years or so (as a blog. meister) it seems like ten or twenty years as we have learned so much from you. Your website is "fresh" and "cutting edge". We know througout the world, it possible that many have come and been exposed to the truthfulness expressed here.<BR/><BR/>The end of each day is a high point for those of us who have the opportunity to dwell on your website. It is masterfully done with no pretense of ambition. Your openess and clarity is so refreshing. Also, your integrity and "blogging theology driven ministry" is second to none.<BR/><BR/>Lastly, the transparency of your website is to be highly regarded as you never even allow us to know of your real name. I dub you the "Lone Ranger". I believe this speaks volumes for your trust worthiness, your insight into human behavior, your psychological awareness, your intuition, your desire to fulfill ministry rather than having some cheap program. It is much appreciated that you do not rely on marketing groups to aid you in proclaiming the truths that are backed by genuine concern for your fellow believer.<BR/><BR/>Thank you again for your service and dedication to reach for the stars so unselfeshly. Its an honor to be one of your students. I would have liked to have had the thousands who subsribe to your site sign this letter, but did not want to go another day especially with Thanksgiving coming up tomorrow.<BR/> WD: please excuse this diatribe at your expense. But, if they can do it so can we!!! You are a good sport to allow us to blog nonsense here just to show that the "yes" gurus are not the only ones that have a market on BS (bad stuff). BLah, Blah, Blah.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-37761152371834650202008-11-26T13:43:00.001-05:002008-11-26T13:43:00.001-05:00To TRULY understand Christa's comments, please che...To TRULY understand Christa's comments, please check her current blog post and the suffering and trauma she endured:<BR/><BR/><A HREF="http://stopbaptistpredators.blogspot.com/2008/11/thanksgiving.html" REL="nofollow">Stop Baptist Predators: Thanksgiving</A>Rameshhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09728392311602332613noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-76484837785184894032008-11-26T13:43:00.000-05:002008-11-26T13:43:00.000-05:00Supporters of Mac Brunson - have you ever heard hi...Supporters of Mac Brunson - have you ever heard him apologize for ANYTHING he has said or done over the past 3 years? No? Does that mean he has never had reason to and he knows this? Then that means he is arrogant and certainly not humble. Most humble men would admit mistakes and apologize. Unless they are claiming to perfect...is he? Are you?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-23369451348584362722008-11-26T13:40:00.000-05:002008-11-26T13:40:00.000-05:00WD - you should make that letter an entire separat...WD - you should make that letter an entire separate post. It clearly shows how brazen one or two people have become to LIE and MISLEAD about what is going on.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-46197990597872827832008-11-26T13:36:00.000-05:002008-11-26T13:36:00.000-05:00WD and readers - that letter on the blog was simil...WD and readers - that letter on the blog was similar to what coaches receive from an owner when they are about to be FIRED. It is called the dreaded "vote of confidence." The owner comes out and tells everyone what a great coach the person is and how lucky we are to have him. Then, when the coach continues to lose one more game, he is fired. <BR/><BR/>IT IS OBVIOUS THAT Maurilio or Gina Ford, or a family member of the Brunsons knew that public relations was being hit hard on this blog due to Mac's behavior so instead of coming here to defend him, OR ASK HIM TO BE MORE LOVING AND TRANSPARENT, they constructed a letter and had two of the biggest brown-nosing yes men in the church sign it as if they had written it. Sorry Dave and A.C. - your reputations and signatures don't hold the weight they once did. You both have lost any respect you earned over the years before you became whipped puppies for Debbie Brunson.<BR/><BR/>"Transparent in all operations," "humility before the Lord"...laughable. And not the kinds of things a simple, loving thank you letter to the pastor and staff and members would contain had it been written from the heart by any member or leader in the church. HOW GULLIBLE AND STUPID DO YOU ALL THINK THE MEMBERS ARE? Never mind, don't answer that. Your letter tells us the answer.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-75105270383727412882008-11-26T13:29:00.000-05:002008-11-26T13:29:00.000-05:00WD - your 11:18 a.m. post regarding the "love lett...WD - your 11:18 a.m. post regarding the "love letter" posted on the church web site was AWESOME! Right on! To understand that letter, I am reposting here a comment from Christa Brown in the last post:<BR/><BR/>Christa Brown said: "Similar to the dynamics of families with alcoholism, co-dependence often causes many church members to turn a blind-eye and cover-up the grievous wrongs of their religious leaders. It has virtually nothing to do with theology. The church-members' co-dependent behavior allows them to maintain their own myth of security, safety, and belonging, and to avoid the uncomfortable conflict that would arise if such things were brought out in the open. This extremely common dynamic of human behavior -- and of group behavior -- is why their must be some outside mechanism of accountability when serious allegations are raised against a religious leader."<BR/><BR/>Amen! Christa's point helps explain all that we are seeing.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-8325852305259979392008-11-26T12:47:00.000-05:002008-11-26T12:47:00.000-05:00hey anonymous 7:34 pm....you got a couple schools ...hey anonymous 7:34 pm....you got a couple schools on that list that i went to and one of them i wish to God i never heard of. and it ain't the one you think. I think the background check on ANY employee of any Christian school needs to be COMPLETELY looked in to. From one who went to a Christian school in Jax Fl growing up and wished my parents had let me go to a public school insteadAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10506926841698204953noreply@blogger.com