tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post548948408738528216..comments2024-03-23T22:54:58.661-04:00Comments on FBC Jax Watchdogs: Brewton Parker Alumni Board Member Makes Public Resignation Over Ergun Caner; Meanwhile Caner Offers Confusing "Vision" for BP FutureFBC Jax Watchdoghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10740366031265491559noreply@blogger.comBlogger91125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-23348742386068817862014-07-24T14:31:27.784-04:002014-07-24T14:31:27.784-04:00A friend referred me to this blog today. I cautio...A friend referred me to this blog today. I caution the parents of students attending Brewton-Parker College,or those considering BPC to investigate what it means to lose accreditation. This is not a minor problem, it is very serious and will most likely close the school. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-27919035386198544162014-07-24T14:26:10.484-04:002014-07-24T14:26:10.484-04:00Brewton-Parker College is not going to win a law s...Brewton-Parker College is not going to win a law suit against the Southern Association of Colleges and Schools. If you have a child enrolled there, rethink it. If a college is not accredited, it is likely that college credit earned there will not transfer to another institution. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-33689410346653324442014-07-24T14:23:26.707-04:002014-07-24T14:23:26.707-04:00I am responding a bit late; however, I live in thi...I am responding a bit late; however, I live in this area, and there are problems that have not been addressed to date about BPC. <br /><br />I'm sure SACS is no aware that many of the faculty do not have Ph.D.s and are in no fashion qualified to teach in the subject areas to which they have been assigned. How can a Ph.D. in communications chair a business division?<br /><br />The academic programs are very weak and EVERY student passes. There appears to be more time, money, and effort expended to fund the athletic programs. (Four new coaches were just hired-July 23, 2014, The Advance Newspaper.) Where is the education?<br /><br />BPC could be a wonderful Baptist College if a president and other administrators were hired who could actually administer the institution in a professional manner. Hiring a Muslim? Does he really have the background to administer an educational institution? It would not be important to me that he has converted, but where is the proof that he has had a successful career in higher education. Based upon what I have read, he does not. A Muslim running Baptist College. He was fired from Liberty University (Oklahoma Baptist News).<br /><br />The we have Dr. Simoneaux, who is about 110 years old, who was brought back to serve as the provost. Dr.Ron Melton, the previous provost is still at BPC serving as a chairperson. He has a proven track record, and is respected by the faculty.<br /><br />I hope BPC can survive without SACS accreditation since the college does contribute to the local economy and it would be a great loss to not have a four year college in this area. I hope Georgia Southern, or one of the other state colleges/universities will open a site in Vidalia, or Mt.Vernon, GA.<br /><br />Last statement, to parents, if you have a student at BPC, please be aware that the loss of accreditation may result in another educational institution refusing to take BPC credit. It is expensive to education our children, and you want the to have a degree that is acknowledged nationally.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-9002476901132575532014-03-28T14:30:53.141-04:002014-03-28T14:30:53.141-04:00"Like them, you are the one making dogmatic s..."Like them, you are the one making dogmatic statements of truth, yet are accusatory of me for saying my statements need to be proved. Ironic, but I understand why you take the position you do. Enjoy your cult like thinking. I hope it works for you."<br /><br />This little paragraph has it all. A straw man argument, followed by a false accusation, followed by an ad hominem attack.<br /><br />Even though I have not stated my position (only asked you to defend yours), you claim that I have (straw man argument) and claim that it is ironic. It would be if it were only true.<br /><br />So how is asking you to defend your dogmatic statements in any way accusatory? False accusation.<br /><br />Then without knowing anything about me (still haven't stated my position) you call me an ugly name. Ad hominem attack.<br /><br />I understand that you are frustrated because you can't defend your position, but attacking me personally will not help prove your point. <br /><br />I would say that it would have the opposite effect.<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-39888698168108686642014-03-28T14:15:53.769-04:002014-03-28T14:15:53.769-04:00"But I don't argue with them over what th..."But I don't argue with them over what they claim is divine truth."<br /><br />I'm not going to come out and say that I don't believe you, but if that were true I would think that you wouldn't be here arguing with people about what many believe to be divine truth.<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-89661908295880931322014-03-28T14:12:30.579-04:002014-03-28T14:12:30.579-04:00"Muslims actually believe the Koran. Catholic..."Muslims actually believe the Koran. Catholics believe in the saints and Virgin Mary and have a Pope. I don't. I admit it. So what? Does that mean everything they believe is wrong. No. But certainly I can't agree to ALL of it."<br /><br />This might be best example of bad logic and confused thinking I have ever encountered in one paragraph.<br /><br />You aren't just comparing apples and oranges but completely contradictory belief systems and then drawing an unrelated conclusion.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-68171108034607252312014-03-28T13:58:53.580-04:002014-03-28T13:58:53.580-04:00"You apparently, actually do believe this stu..."You apparently, actually do believe this stuff."<br /><br />Now we are assuming. You know what happens when you do that. <br /><br />I actually haven't stated my position and therefore am not required to defend it.<br /><br />You have, in black and white fundamentalistic terms, even though you tried to deny it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-49778728622249849732014-03-28T13:56:36.580-04:002014-03-28T13:56:36.580-04:00"I didn't say God COULDN'T do those t..."I didn't say God COULDN'T do those things. I just said I don't BELIEVE that He wanted to, needed to, or actually DID do those things."<br /><br />Unfortunately for you TROLL, there is a written record of what you said and it doesn't match up with your words above.<br /><br />Compare the dogmatic, black and white, proclamations below to the the back-peddling above:<br /><br />"He can also make us and himself defy the laws of gravity he put in place. But he doesn't and hasn't."<br /><br />"Yes, God created the universe. No, he doesn't make men fly, animals talk, the earth stop spinning on its axis, etc. Men made that stuff up."<br /><br />"No one lives that long, and never has, and never will."<br /><br />"I believe creator God can heal everyone. I also KNOW that he doesn't."<br /><br />See anything in those statements about you not personally believing that God did those things? Nope.<br /><br />You should have removed your previous comments (like Caner tried to remove his videos) before changing your story.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-22243931539344850352014-03-28T13:42:09.580-04:002014-03-28T13:42:09.580-04:00"Last word from Trolley:"
For real this..."Last word from Trolley:"<br /><br />For real this time? Not like the last time where you said you didn't want to discuss this issue any more (an issue that you originated) from a post that was completely unrelated. <br /><br />Uh-huh. I'll believe it when I see it TROLL.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-30856579548713635122014-03-28T08:43:44.302-04:002014-03-28T08:43:44.302-04:00Last word from Trolley: I didn't say God COULD...Last word from Trolley: I didn't say God COULDN'T do those things. I just said I don't BELIEVE that He wanted to, needed to, or actually DID do those things. You apparently, actually do believe this stuff. Mitt Romney actually believes in magic underwear. Jehovah's witnesses actually believe in Joseph's Smiths teachings. Muslims actually believe the Koran. Catholics believe in the saints and Virgin Mary and have a Pope. I don't. I admit it. So what? Does that mean everything they believe is wrong. No. But certainly I can't agree to ALL of it. But I don't argue with them over what they claim is divine truth. Like them, you are the one making dogmatic statements of truth, yet are accusatory of me for saying my statements need to be proved. Ironic, but I understand why you take the position you do. Enjoy your cult like thinking. I hope it works for you. :)Trolleynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-25906525590388411952014-03-28T07:32:53.541-04:002014-03-28T07:32:53.541-04:00There is very little in the NT that can be challen...There is very little in the NT that can be challenged as impossible, only unlikely. But there are things cited in the OT that appear to violate physics, chemistry, etc., and for which there is no evidence of it happening after dedicated searching by those propounding those events as literal.<br /><br />One has to remember that the OT was not put in writing at the time, but later, from the oral tradition, the scrolls were destroyed during the wars and the conquest of Jerusalem and all of Israel and Judah, and were recreated again from oral tradition and memory. Many portions show the characteristics of oral creation and descent traditions of tribal peoples.<br /><br />I would rather treat the OT stories like parables that can be teaching resources, without having to be literal. Keep in mind that God, in the person of Jesus, taught in parables, so why not in the OT books that are called 'history'.Arcenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-76393505681363159632014-03-27T14:25:24.164-04:002014-03-27T14:25:24.164-04:00"I now accept talking donkeys, the sun standi..."I now accept talking donkeys, the sun standing still, witches summoning up the dead, and everything else in the Bible."<br /><br />Illogical statement from someone who believes that God created the universe.<br /><br />The creation of the universe was a miracle. Much greater than the ones you list above.<br /><br />So it would be illogical to believe that God couldn't do those things. <br /><br />If you believe that God could do those things and chose not to, then you would need to show some evidence to make your case.<br /><br />You obviously can't do that because you were not there at the time. <br /><br />So the best you could possibly do is to state that you don't think it is likely that those things happened.<br /><br />To state that you know that they didn't happen is both arrogant and ignorant.<br /><br />The problem with stating that those things were unlikely to have happened is that the Bible has a track record of being correct.<br /><br />For example, many Bible critics boldly asserted that Pilate never lived but was only a Biblical allegory for Roman law. <br /><br />That was until they found a plaque with his name and title in the 1960's. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-6478944985805355542014-03-27T14:18:01.282-04:002014-03-27T14:18:01.282-04:00"Maybe my logic and reason and observations h..."Maybe my logic and reason and observations have blinded to me the truth of their faith also."<br /><br />Statement from someone who hasn't looked into the "facts" of those religions. No comparison.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-87694843770057119312014-03-27T14:15:00.689-04:002014-03-27T14:15:00.689-04:00"Time to move on to another blog topic rather..."Time to move on to another blog topic rather than keep arguing about whether animals talk and whether the laws of gravity don't apply to earth at times. I would rather argue with a brick wall. Thanks for reminding us all of just how brain damaged some Christians are."<br /><br />LOL!<br />You want to move on to a new topic. That's classic since you seem to be obsessed with this topic. Well until someone points out that you can't back up your assertions. Then you are ready to move on. Sort of self-serving isn't it?<br /><br />Oh it gets better. After making that statement you leave another comment on the same subject. LOL!<br /><br />So you can't defend your ridiculous claims and then we can't trust your sincerity either?<br /><br />Thanks for reminding us how vacuous, condescending and shallow your belief system is.<br /><br />Oh and by the way, an insult is not a cogent argument.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-89729766713564188582014-03-27T14:06:53.006-04:002014-03-27T14:06:53.006-04:00"Those last 4 responses show exactly how stub..."Those last 4 responses show exactly how stubborn and irrational and illogical some Christians can be."<br /><br />No, actually they show that you can't defend your assertions.<br /><br />You are good at one thing TROLL. <br /><br />Making dogmatic assertions with no defensible arguments.<br /><br />Of course that displays no particular level of education.<br /><br />Just a willingness to be a blow-hard.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-18839808706511710982014-03-27T09:33:36.853-04:002014-03-27T09:33:36.853-04:00Yuppie Puppy,
That explains all my questions. Tha...Yuppie Puppy,<br /><br />That explains all my questions. Thanks. I now accept talking donkeys, the sun standing still, witches summoning up the dead, and everything else in the Bible. I also believe everything Ergun Caner says, and everything that my pastor says God told him to tell us. Thanks for sharing what you read in a book and have been taught in your culture and life. I'm heading over to the Morman's blogs and Jehovah's Witnesses blogs and Muslim blogs to see what kind of similar logic they have for me to believe. Maybe my logic and reason and observations have blinded to me the truth of their faith also.Trolleynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-2503851330860833542014-03-26T15:18:14.907-04:002014-03-26T15:18:14.907-04:00To Trolley
You have displayed a considerable conte...To Trolley<br />You have displayed a considerable contempt for the Bible. <br /><br />Romans 3:3-4a<br />For what if some did not believe? Will their unbelief make the faithfulness of God without effect? Certainly not! Indeed, let God be true but every man a liar.<br /><br />However you’ve claimed to believe in a creation that you can see. <br /><br />I hope you realize that will not excuse you from rejecting the rest of God’s Word. <br /><br />Romans 1:20-21<br />For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even His eternal power and Godhead, so that they are without excuse, because, although they knew God, they did not glorify Him as God, nor were thankful, but became futile in their thoughts, and their foolish hearts were darkened. <br /><br />Most importantly, Jesus Christ the Son of God, shed His blood and died for sinners, and rose from the dead. <br /><br />Repent of your unbelief and believe and trust in Jesus Christ for your salvation. <br /><br />Sincerely, Yuppie PuppyAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-47256576872329960132014-03-26T08:43:58.144-04:002014-03-26T08:43:58.144-04:00Those last 4 responses show exactly how stubborn a...Those last 4 responses show exactly how stubborn and irrational and illogical some Christians can be. Wanting proof that God doesn't heal everybody? Really? Wanting me to defend the statement that men can't fly and the earth doesn't stop spinning on its axis. Really? Those statements need to be proven to you? No wonder Caner is believed and loved by so many, no matter what. And no wonder pastors can keep preaching that God gave them a vision for you to give more money to them. They know people like this will just say "prove that God didn't give him that vision." LOL, but sad really. Time to move on to another blog topic rather than keep arguing about whether animals talk and whether the laws of gravity don't apply to earth at times. I would rather argue with a brick wall. Thanks for reminding us all of just how brain damaged some Christians are.Trolleynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-12821122824170169932014-03-25T14:34:05.204-04:002014-03-25T14:34:05.204-04:00"Another illustration: I believe creator God ..."Another illustration: I believe creator God can heal everyone. I also KNOW that he doesn't. Do I need to defend how I know this? And you call ME the troll?"<br /><br />Yes that is another illustration of bad logic TROLL.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-3699094633287578172014-03-25T14:32:25.406-04:002014-03-25T14:32:25.406-04:00"No, he doesn't make men fly, animals tal..."No, he doesn't make men fly, animals talk, the earth stop spinning on its axis, etc."<br /><br />You make the claim - you defend it.<br />So far you have not offered one shred of evidence.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-75098583735941911732014-03-25T14:30:30.013-04:002014-03-25T14:30:30.013-04:00"Why can't I KNOW that God created the Un..."Why can't I KNOW that God created the Universe by what I see, my common sense and my logic; and not believe in miracles for the same reasons?"<br /><br />Because creating the universe was a miracle. If you don't understand that as a contradiction, I can't help you friend.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-41893417907109026802014-03-25T14:28:58.545-04:002014-03-25T14:28:58.545-04:00"Is this not right on topic of this post and ..."Is this not right on topic of this post and Caner's "vision" for BP?"<br /><br />No - this thread is not about biblical inerrancy. Has nothing to do with it at all.<br /><br />People who agree (or don't agree) with that teaching can see that Caner was lying by the evidence.<br /><br />Why is this so complicated for you?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-88742469138871144392014-03-24T12:45:05.651-04:002014-03-24T12:45:05.651-04:00Another illustration: I believe creator God can h...Another illustration: I believe creator God can heal everyone. I also KNOW that he doesn't. Do I need to defend how I know this? And you call ME the troll?Trolleynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-12796728226051560512014-03-24T12:43:23.218-04:002014-03-24T12:43:23.218-04:00The problem is I do understand hermeneutics, and I...The problem is I do understand hermeneutics, and I have "taken it up with the book." Caner is a fraud, but "god's men" can't see it. The men of God teach and preach nonsense, yet the sheeple don't see it. Why? Because they are proud. Proud that they believe it all or none of it. Proud of their belief the bible IS truth, and doesn't just contain some truth. They cannot discern between truth and fiction. Which is where Ergun Caner comes in. Is this not right on topic of this post and Caner's "vision" for BP?<br /><br />Why can't I KNOW that God created the Universe by what I see, my common sense and my logic; and not believe in miracles for the same reasons? Yes, God created the universe. No, he doesn't make men fly, animals talk, the earth stop spinning on its axis, etc. Men made that stuff up. I don't believe it. Do YOU? Really? Why?Trolleynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-36370554360705565582014-03-24T11:45:17.193-04:002014-03-24T11:45:17.193-04:00"Wow! Discuss Ergun Caner and the issue turns..."Wow! Discuss Ergun Caner and the issue turns to infallibility of Scripture. Next question is what does Ergun Caner have to do with how I or anyone else view the Bible?"<br /><br />Because the TROLL attempts to turn every thread into this issue.<br /><br />He is either purposely being obtuse or has no concept of hermeneutics.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com