tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post5527234031779160941..comments2024-03-23T22:54:58.661-04:00Comments on FBC Jax Watchdogs: Caner 2007 GBC Convention Sermon: Some Irony, Some Hypocrisy, Some Prophecy - And Yes, Some BaloneyFBC Jax Watchdoghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10740366031265491559noreply@blogger.comBlogger25125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-26064243741175973122013-12-08T01:29:38.387-05:002013-12-08T01:29:38.387-05:00Ergun Caner should have no problem
with any of his...Ergun Caner should have no problem<br />with any of his students if they are found to be giving self contradictory answers if they should be caught cheating or plagerizing<br /> someone elses work.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-34041932875247844422013-12-07T17:04:48.960-05:002013-12-07T17:04:48.960-05:00To Susan Rhodes,
You said you "know Ergun Ca...To Susan Rhodes,<br /><br />You said you "know Ergun Caner is a man of integrity".<br /><br />Please tell us how you determine that, keeping in mind charlatans will attempt to foster an aura of integrity.<br /><br />Next, you'll have to ask yourself what you'll do if you come to find that Caner is not what he presents himself to be. Will you just say nothing?<br /><br />LAAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-57791604300142553222013-12-07T16:53:28.803-05:002013-12-07T16:53:28.803-05:00To Susan Rhodes,
You said you "know Ergun Ca...To Susan Rhodes,<br /><br />You said you "know Ergun Caner is a man of integrity".<br /><br />Please tell us how you determine that, keeping in mind charlatans will attempt to foster an aura of integrity.<br /><br />Next, you'll have to ask yourself what you'll do if you come to find that Caner is not what he presents himself to be. Will you just say nothing?<br /><br />LAAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-46026010131958124002013-12-07T09:33:22.744-05:002013-12-07T09:33:22.744-05:00http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S70aXNxcKdw
This m...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S70aXNxcKdw<br /><br />This man is asking what needs to be asked. He asks that Christians pray for Ergun Caner to come to true faith in Jesus Christ.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-7669793237839779392013-12-06T21:05:04.655-05:002013-12-06T21:05:04.655-05:00I was reading Jim Rogers reply....and thinking Tom...I was reading Jim Rogers reply....and thinking Tom......bloggers do run the risk of falling into strawmen arguments and looking prideful themselves, not saying you are at all, but in talking to some others about blog like yours they say that they have become disenchanted with the blogs and that they are not like what they were. They also complain about blogs not really providing some sense of resolution to the issue presented in what is being brought up. For example, this issue on Ergun sound personal at least Jim interprets it this way. The issue that needs to reminded is ministerial fraud has occurred and that James White is NOT bearing a false testimony against Ergun. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-48694099087226029632013-12-06T19:18:42.452-05:002013-12-06T19:18:42.452-05:00Wow! In my book, warriors are those in the militar...Wow! In my book, warriors are those in the military dodging bullets on foreign soil so that we can live in freedom in USA. It is an insult to our fighting men and women to call someone who is in violation of scripture for suing a brother in court a 'warrior'! Not to mention the 'misstatements'. This is like the media covering up for Obama and all his lying. It's absolutely unbelievable. Where are the examples of integrity and truthfulness here? <br /><br />If anyone wonders why young people are leaving the church, hypocrisy is one of the top reasons on the list. I'll say his much I haven't even heard Mac Brunson compliment Ergun in a long time.<br /><br />Thinking something to be an answer to prayer doesn't mean it is so. Impatience in prayer can lead one to think their answer was given by lack of other visible options. Abraham and Sarah thought their answer to prayer was from God because Hagar was available.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-28813044030267668572013-12-06T18:56:09.484-05:002013-12-06T18:56:09.484-05:00Wow! In my book, warriors are those in the militar...Wow! In my book, warriors are those in the military dodging bullets on foreign soil so that we can live in freedom in USA. It is an insult to our fighting men and women to call someone who is in violation of scripture for suing a brother in court a 'warrior'! Not to mention the 'misstatements'. This is like the media covering up for Obama and all his lying. It's absolutely unbelievable. Where are the examples of integrity and truthfulness here? <br /><br />If anyone wonders why young people are leaving the church, hypocrisy is one of the top reasons on the list. I'll say his much I haven't even heard Mac Brunson compliment Ergun in a long time.<br /><br />Thinking something to be an answer to prayer doesn't mean it is so. Impatience in prayer can lead one to think their answer was given by lack of other visible options. Abraham and Sarah thought their answer to prayer was from God because Hagar was available.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-36611814380975755802013-12-06T17:54:09.654-05:002013-12-06T17:54:09.654-05:00"We know he is a man of integrity and will te..."We know he is a man of integrity and will teach us how to be men and women who fear God."<br /><br />Strong delusion, much? Sounds just like Israel when they rejected God's leadership, and wanted the leadership of a man. God gave them Saul, and we all know how that turned out. <br /><br />Guys like this are God's judgement on a blind and rebellious people that do not want God, but want to get all their carnal hearts desire in the name of God. So He gives them over to strong delusion so that they believe a lie, and it looks like they have swallowed it hook, line, and sinker.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-86672202282238472102013-12-06T17:39:02.869-05:002013-12-06T17:39:02.869-05:00Anon 5:12 As a B-P student... (Bi Polar)?
Really?....Anon 5:12 As a B-P student... (Bi Polar)?<br />Really?...that excited to gain one with that much controversy surrounding?<br />Once you have been a student of Real Life (after college) you will understand that some must cautiously be loved at arms length...unfortunately. In his case much/most brought onto himself making him no martyr.<br />And Ms Bi Polar we will still love you when you and this saga's chapter crashes.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-37247785443789871642013-12-06T17:27:42.776-05:002013-12-06T17:27:42.776-05:00Well, he must have had an integrity implant, b/c f...Well, he must have had an integrity implant, b/c from 8/12/2001 to sometime in 2011 he did not have any. Complete fabricator (aka LIAR) for ten years plus or minus a few months. And suing good Christians who dared to point out his lying.<br /><br />But you at B-P can drink the Kool Aid. IF he ever tells the whole truth, he will have to admit that he created a false story to tell about his supposed jihadist training.57 years a Baptistnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-23340966526995286772013-12-06T17:12:00.797-05:002013-12-06T17:12:00.797-05:00As a B-P student, I can tell you we are excited!
...As a B-P student, I can tell you we are excited!<br /><br />We know he is a man of integrity and will teach us how to be men and women who fear God.<br /><br />Your attacks only strengthen Dr. Caner in our view and we ask you to personally come to our school and feel the Spirit in the air!<br /><br />God answers prayers and He brought us a warrior!Susan Rhodesnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-88437585278011872192013-12-06T17:08:05.406-05:002013-12-06T17:08:05.406-05:00Dr. Caner told me today that he is praying for you...Dr. Caner told me today that he is praying for you. <br /><br />He said he harbors no bitterness and he wishes you God's blessing and peace.<br /><br />He is a sweet man with a gentle heart.<br /><br />Wish you were more like him...Jim Rogersnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-13853895197055842102013-12-06T10:16:41.885-05:002013-12-06T10:16:41.885-05:00Sour grapes...hmmm. You must be referring to Aeso...Sour grapes...hmmm. You must be referring to Aesop's Fables. Where a talking fox (animals, like donkey's do talk, and reason, and ask questions just like Balaam's donkey, amen?) tells himself that the grapes he can't reach must be sour.<br /><br />Interesting that Christians refer to sour grapes to make their point since they are so impacted by tales of talking animals. Not just talking animals, but animals that actually reason and ask questions.<br /><br />Oh well. You either believe ALL of it or NONE of it, Amen!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-52592375137430515032013-12-06T09:14:50.765-05:002013-12-06T09:14:50.765-05:00"Sour grapes Dog, sour grapes."
Why wou..."Sour grapes Dog, sour grapes."<br /><br />Why would there be Sour Grapes? WD won in court and your hero was forced to apologize from the pulpit in disgrace. <br /><br />Sounds like you are the one with the case of sour grapes my friend.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-38707186573451021292013-12-05T22:18:04.706-05:002013-12-05T22:18:04.706-05:00Anonymous spake these inspired words: Sour grapes ...Anonymous spake these inspired words: Sour grapes Dog, sour grapes. Your hatred and venom are going to do more harm to you than to anyone else. Get involved in your church, serve Jesus, win souls and devote more time to your family. Let it go.<br /><br />Your man-worship is showing, Mr/Ms. Anonymous at 8:09. You let personalities trump integrity in this case. So sad.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-57702666946817232592013-12-05T18:41:59.153-05:002013-12-05T18:41:59.153-05:00With the lack of respectability, is it any wonder ...With the lack of respectability, is it any wonder that people are even beginning to satire the religious system like this blogger here:<br /><br />http://thebreadoflifefellowship.blogspot.com/<br /><br />Pretty funny, and true stuff right there.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-287188870539891592013-12-05T16:33:26.579-05:002013-12-05T16:33:26.579-05:00From Florida to Georgia this Christmas-
"GO (...From Florida to Georgia this Christmas-<br />"GO (away)............ Georgia Bulldogs!! ...and take EC with you!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-73401750208822906262013-12-05T14:40:40.324-05:002013-12-05T14:40:40.324-05:00http://www.worldviewweekend.com/news/article/south...http://www.worldviewweekend.com/news/article/southern-baptist-college-hires-controversial-ergun-caner <br /><br />This is an interesting link. I guess EC will go after it next because it seems relatively factual.Bennett Willishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01200940136846753450noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-29289169962601543112013-12-05T11:44:52.492-05:002013-12-05T11:44:52.492-05:00While I take offense at all Southerners being not ...While I take offense at all Southerners being not so bright, I would have a hard time arguing the point regarding Georgia Baptists who take a job as trustee of a college.<br /><br />An interesting issue is that the years between 2001 and 2011 are going away for EC. At least this seems to be the plan The videos are being deleted, the statements of EC's history (by EC) are going away. It does seem like something out of the book, "1984." I suppose that things do eventually become clear.<br /><br />Then there are the students and faculty. How are they going to take this? Not that it matters much. How could the college pass the "red face test" regarding their code of ethics?<br /><br />Fortunately, I'm a graduate of another Baptist College--one that seems to have a code of ethics that they actually take seriously. Of course they are looking for a president and I'm glad that EC is newly hired by another. That should reduce the possibility of getting him to well below zero--if it was not there already.Bennett Willishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01200940136846753450noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-78675403759855336502013-12-05T11:27:26.866-05:002013-12-05T11:27:26.866-05:00Another trustee summarized the vote: “We didn’t co...Another trustee summarized the vote: “We didn’t consider Dr. Caner in spite of the attacks; we<br />elected him because of them. He has endured relentless and pagan attacks like a warrior. We<br />need a warrior as our next president.”<br />_________________________________<br /><br />Translation: We are desperate and dying and will bring in the king of slinging the bull in an effort to attract students who want to be trained in how to sling the bull. And for that, we must all agree, love him or hate him, if you want to attract students who will be future posers and manipulators and liars who will never back down or admit their lies when they are caught red handed, Ergun Caner is your man! To me that is basically an admission by the college that they will say anything, hire anyone, or do anything, they can to try and salvage a bush league, obsolete organization. <br /><br />Go grow the college, Ergun. You are a great role model for future Georgia preachers who will fill pulpits in the years to come. Ha Ha.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-46074331654328995802013-12-05T10:04:10.754-05:002013-12-05T10:04:10.754-05:00Thanks thanks for your concern, Anon. No sour grap...Thanks thanks for your concern, Anon. No sour grapes I can assure you. FBC Jax Watchdoghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10740366031265491559noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-73399861855075486032013-12-05T09:51:44.452-05:002013-12-05T09:51:44.452-05:00Sour grapes Dog, sour grapes. Your hatred and veno...Sour grapes Dog, sour grapes. Your hatred and venom are going to do more harm to you than to anyone else. Get involved in your church, serve Jesus, win souls and devote more time to your family. Let it go.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-17937235789162301312013-12-05T08:30:32.566-05:002013-12-05T08:30:32.566-05:00Dog, this sermon should be made available to the p...Dog, this sermon should be made available to the people the Caner is suing. It is useful evidence.<br /><br />Of course, he may try to copyright it some six years later!An Attorneynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-12822711027234358092013-12-05T08:09:32.958-05:002013-12-05T08:09:32.958-05:00Wow! Videos allegedly of Caner? Why is Ergun suing...Wow! Videos allegedly of Caner? Why is Ergun suing if the videos aren't confirmed to be of him? Did the trustees interview him and be told by Caner that the videos aren't him speaking? Why on earth would they use that word? Aside from the conflict this causes for those evangelizing Muslims doesn't it justify the stereotype that southerners aren't too bright?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-87970159533208268442013-12-05T06:45:43.336-05:002013-12-05T06:45:43.336-05:00Watchdog,
Did you read the press release from Brew...Watchdog,<br />Did you read the press release from Brewton Parker College?<br />http://www.bpc.edu/PresidentialSearch/canerpressrelease.html<br /><br />The last paragraph is interesting.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com