tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post5874643853617902443..comments2024-03-23T22:54:58.661-04:00Comments on FBC Jax Watchdogs: Concerned FBC Jax Members: July is "Independence from Mac Brunson" MonthFBC Jax Watchdoghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10740366031265491559noreply@blogger.comBlogger146125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-37709605562927749872009-07-25T23:25:33.735-04:002009-07-25T23:25:33.735-04:00Look Moses. If you don't like Pharaoh, nobody&...Look Moses. If you don't like Pharaoh, nobody's forcing you to stick around Just go back to Sinai. Hey, Elijah. Lay off Ahab and Jezebel. They are your leaders and you're showing nothing but disrespect. You should be ashamed of yourself. Ezekiel, stop the dramatics. You must really think you're something lying on your side in protest for days on end. What kind of example do you think you're showing? Get with the program or get out. John the Baptist, you are a troublemaker. What business is it of yours to point out Herod's sin? We are all sinners! And his girlfriends? Now that's low. Don't you realize what the Romans are saying about God's people now? You are giving us all a bad name. Paul! How dare you stand up to Peter like that about not eating with the Gentiles! Don't you know he's one of the first apostles? Touch not the Lord's anointed! You are giving the church a black eye!...Provenderhttp://pureprovender.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-13907761019246273622009-07-14T19:42:56.954-04:002009-07-14T19:42:56.954-04:00WD, I have read numerous post on your site, both i...WD, I have read numerous post on your site, both in agreement and disagreement with your positions. I am not a member of FBCJAX nor do I have a personal relationship with your Pastor. Therefore I cannot comment directly on any of the issues you, your Pastor, or your church are facing. However, I felt I had to reply. With all sincerity of heart I read and felt nothing but sorrow. Sorrow for you, those who agree with you, those who disagree with you, your Pastor, FBCJAX, and the Kingdom of God. Please know this, and I write with no animosity towards any one, this situation will be a matter of prayer in my life.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-44996576113679317152009-04-12T20:30:00.000-04:002009-04-12T20:30:00.000-04:00What a bunch of garbage! and, what a bunch of cowa...What a bunch of garbage! and, what a bunch of cowards, beginning with the WatchDog himself. No one is obligating you to stay at FBC JAX. No one is holding a gun to your head and forcing you to tithe. It is very clear that all you want to do is to continue to allow satan to use you to cause discension and discord within the church family. You criticize tithing because money is your god, so instead of tithing you want to "contribute". Too funny. You have nothing to criticize Mac about so you make stuff up. First, get all the facts. Even you acknowledge having minimal information. And then, if you don't like what you have learned, leave. Oops! too late. I, for one, am glad you are gone from FBC Jax. God alone will judge handle Mac Brunson, as he will all of us and I, for one, don't envy anyone with the responsiblity of pastoring a church. So, take care of the board in your own eye, and then maybe you can check out the splinter in someone else's eye. You have enough to keep you busy until Jesus comes back. Shame on you!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-73213894592220606312009-04-12T16:42:00.000-04:002009-04-12T16:42:00.000-04:00"Watchdog" Dude, I knew by the name of your websit..."Watchdog" Dude, I knew by the name of your website when I ran across it about a year ago that you were a bitter individual with nothing better to do than trash someone. I've been going there off and on since the early '70's. I loved Dr. Lindsay more than any other pastor. If you didn't agree with how they were doing things down there, you should have left or heck start your own church and run it your way. I don't blame them for throwing you out and outing you. You sound like someone who could try (or encourage someone) to do something crazy. This whole webpage screams that you're obsessed. Please do everyone a favor and get a real life. And, you're as much of a hypocrite and sinner as anyone else. <BR/>Don't dish it out if you can't take it. <BR/>Get over it, already...lolNikki Onoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-65247332264191401002009-04-09T13:55:00.000-04:002009-04-09T13:55:00.000-04:00seriously, does anyone else on here have a problem...seriously, does anyone else on here have a problem with this minister having influence over our city to use our tax dollars to find out who doesnt like him. well i do. how many unsolved homicides, burglaries, rapes, etc etc do we have in our city? and first baptist church thinks that highly of itself to put their petty self-glorified issues above the safety of the city and divert tax dollars away from real crimes, for a modern day witch hunt.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-6305289815478028272009-02-27T13:20:00.000-05:002009-02-27T13:20:00.000-05:00Glad I no longer go there. Mac turned me off almos...Glad I no longer go there. <BR/><BR/>Mac turned me off almost the day he got here.<BR/><BR/>This blog serves a valuable purpose in letting unknowing members, and the community, what is really going on there.<BR/><BR/>Homer and his father are probably turning over in their graves at this.<BR/><BR/>Keep up the good work.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-53820270093601407412009-02-24T15:05:00.000-05:002009-02-24T15:05:00.000-05:00Bored much?You're an idiot. p.s. I'm not a first b...Bored much?<BR/><BR/>You're an idiot. <BR/><BR/>p.s. I'm not a first baptist member.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-3958885784505474462009-02-05T20:18:00.000-05:002009-02-05T20:18:00.000-05:00I found your website by accident - I am very sorry...I found your website by accident - I am very sorry that I did. You, FBC Watchdog are not upholding the standards of Jesus, You are tearing apart His Bride with YOUR deceitfulness and hardness of heart.<BR/><BR/>It is people like you who are destroying the mission of Jesus in America. I know that you believe that you are in the right, sir, but I suggest that you<BR/><BR/>REPENT! REPENT OF YOUR BLINDNESS - YOUR HARDNESS OF HEART. REPENT FOR TEARING APART THAT WHICH GOD WILL USE FOR HIS GLORY. <BR/><BR/>It seems to me that you, sir, have believed the lie. You believe that you are upholding God's will but seem to have roots in that you don't agree with the direction of the church. I bet if we could see deep enough we would find that much of your problem has to do with cultural preference over biblical mandate. <BR/><BR/>Your means of doing that is by tearing down a man called by God. I recall David passing up the opportunity to kill Saul because, even though Saul was no longer the chosen King of Israel, David knew that Saul was God's anointed. David respected the king after the king no longer deserved respect (he threw a spear at David). How is your situation more special than David's?<BR/><BR/>Watchdog, I hope that you will repent of bringing a pharisaical spirit into the family of FBC Jax. Your church deserves better than that.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-85670157677156346482008-12-20T21:24:00.000-05:002008-12-20T21:24:00.000-05:00All I can say is that i am glad that I pastored sm...All I can say is that i am glad that I pastored smaller churches for the past 20years and have had to deal with only a few nuts like Dr. Watchdog. By the way why should any pastor have to 'adjust' to any congregation or members or mobs. Keep your tithe because that is what it is...yours and not Gods. Repent and be saved.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-61048397066584211902008-12-18T16:40:00.000-05:002008-12-18T16:40:00.000-05:00Still haven't given it up yet, huh? This is the f...Still haven't given it up yet, huh? This is the first time since our previous blog debate (kinda) and in the first 7 seconds I noticed yet another mistake in your writing. I know you have plenty of fans and are stirring plenty of controversy. Congratulations in the amount of traffic you are receiving. I still receive no less than 15 hits to my blog just from your blog alone. So thanks for that too. If you're ever open to my offer, let me know. To jog the memory - I WILL FLY TO YOU ON MY DIME AND MEET WITH YOU JUST TO HEAR YOU INTELLIGENTLY DEFEND YOUR ANGER AND DIVISIVE SPIRIT WHICH CONTINUES TO DESTROY THAT WHICH GOD IS TRYING TO BUILD. I'M JUST A 29 YEAR OLD "punk kid" who should not be too intimidating. I'm not even Bible college trained. ha. Let me know. Happy blogging. We'll be in touch in another few months. And Merry Christmas to your and your family.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-68377785898614436622008-11-23T09:55:00.000-05:002008-11-23T09:55:00.000-05:00You may be right about your preacher. However, you...You may be right about your preacher. However, your stance about tithing is wrong. You are supposed to share, and Paul asks churches to have the 'collection' so he wouldn't have to do it. And you can have a negative opinion about your pastor, but it is wrong to Blast on a blog or behind his back. It might be better if you would not publicly critize your pastor.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-18090151293912148442008-09-22T21:19:00.000-04:002008-09-22T21:19:00.000-04:00I can appreciate the views and emotions that drive...I can appreciate the views and emotions that drive this blogsite but do not understand the complete lack of biblical knowledge and boldness. Since you do understand the bible so well, you must realize that you must practice Christian (biblical)correction. That means go to him personally (this is not that). Then if he does not repent go to him with someone else (this is not that either). Then if he does not repent go to the elders of the church with him (once again, this is not that). Then go before the church with him (you have guessed it by now, this is not that). <BR/><BR/>If the occurences you have listed have really happened then it would seem to me that you would have the courage of Paul to confront a brother. But it seems to me that you and most of the posters on this blog are spiritual Judas', writing anonymously is easy, what is hard is confronting with the power and love of the Lord. <BR/><BR/>Praying that you would come out of the closet.<BR/><BR/>Don DownsAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-58440051372653096122008-07-24T08:49:00.000-04:002008-07-24T08:49:00.000-04:00How very, very sad. Heard about this site, but co...How very, very sad. Heard about this site, but couldn't believe it and had to see it for myself. You definitely have way too much time on your hands. I will be praying for you, that God will open YOUR eyes to the real truth and take away your bitterness. You'd be surprised at how God is using Pastor to work in our lives. My heart hurts for you.<BR/>Praying for you,<BR/>Amie Shieldsamieshieldshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05150216534398710105noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-29922133758186592662008-06-30T20:51:00.000-04:002008-06-30T20:51:00.000-04:00Anon 10:50 am - if you're looking for solid, bible...Anon 10:50 am - if you're looking for solid, bible expository preaching, you probably are better off going to another church. If you want to be at a church where there is openness about how money is spent, FBC Jax is not the one for you. If you're looking for a humble pastor that's interested in feeding his sheep and reaching this city with the gospel and not using your tithes to build their own personal brand while preaching history lessons, try another church - most any church. That you need to find a new church; that's not my fault, its Donald M. Brunson's fault.FBC Jax Watchdoghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10740366031265491559noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-50286875185252847032008-06-30T20:48:00.000-04:002008-06-30T20:48:00.000-04:00Yes, as the Anon says, all of you "supporting" the...Yes, as the Anon says, all of you "supporting" the watchdog please stop it. I would recommend stopping all payments immediately to my cause; all of you worshipping me and telling me I'm the "man of God", and defending me by saying "touch not God's watchdog"; all of you heaping praise on me and giving me gifts and houses, please STOP IMMEDIATELY, for my own good!FBC Jax Watchdoghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10740366031265491559noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-63405989172649118112008-06-30T10:59:00.000-04:002008-06-30T10:59:00.000-04:00CHANGE: (My opinion) I would certainly like to see...CHANGE: (My opinion) I would certainly like to see change!!! I would like to see the preachers of today get back to GOD'S business. Instead of their own personal agenda's (money, books of instructions they don't live by themselves, travel, personal wealth and most of all EGOS! Todays preachers (not all, but most in the SBC) are ego ridden and self serving. When one needs a marketing firm to HELP them with their BRAND. A marketing firm (brand) will help them make money, it won't help them be more Godly or a better preacher!! That persons ministry(?) is in trouble from a spiritual point. This attitude of trying to update the Gospel, give it a new look, is insulting to the Lord. Jesus doesn't need man's help!! HE and HE alone died on the Cross for man. Do you not see why preachers have no power today? People arn't getting saved today because the preachers have no power in their ministry! Making money does not mean your ministry is blessed of God. That is why they turn to marketing firms, the Purpose Driven lie, and any new angle they can get to help them out.Churches run like businesses, with CEO'S in charge. IF(?) these preachers (many, not all) were ever called, they sold out a long time ago. I saw a remark on the blog., saying "I hope we are all past believing the KJV, is the only perfect word of God." I have a question. If people were getting saved for years upon years with the KJV, why would anyone want to change it? It doesn't look like the new translations are doing such a hot job, does it? Less people getting saved than ever. I heard someone say once, "If you mess with the Bible then God will mess with your mind." Amen!! These preachers (not all) have "messed" with the word!! When you have a bible that makes thousands of CHANGES, most of them in doctrine, the diety of Christ, take out countless references to the Blood and the Cross, what do you think? What was wrong with the KJV? Had to make it more relevant, more up to date for todays "contemporary" people. Always trying to help God out, trying to help HIM get it right. This is why Jesus went to the Cross in the first place, because man is lost and can not save himself. Why does man think he can help God by changing His word. <BR/> Who does it benefit to change God's word, take Jesus, the Blood <BR/>and the Cross out, change doctrines, generally make the Word weak who do you think would like that? You got it!!!! I would not want that on my conscience. Plus, the KJV is not copyrighted, All the other translations are. Money, Money, also if version after version has to make a certain number of "changes in their version, in<BR/>order not to plagiarize another version, then each version gets further and further from GOD'S <BR/>WORD!!!! The preachers may go into seminaries with an honest heart <BR/>and calling, but most of them come<BR/>out programmed to believe what they are taught.,(modern up to date methods, more relevance, any version will do ). The seminaries are corrupt from within, and the preachers are useless, that's why they have NO POWER. That's why they search for "something" to help them and unfortunately it's "contemporary, gimmicks, the P.D. lie, more RELEVANCE in the Gospel", all because they are doing it in the flesh. Preachers get back to your calling, If you ever truly had one, and humble yourselves before God, "Study to show thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth" 2 TIMOTHY: 2:15. That would be RIGHTLY dividing!! That is the WORD of truth not history, psychology, world events, marketing trends, etc. YOU'VE LEFT YOUR FIRST LOVE, AND YOU HAVE NO POWER!!!!!<BR/><BR/>Guess who hasn't changed, the devil. He is still doing the same things since the Garden of Eden, making you doubt your bible, you must keep changing God's word to "properly understand it today." You need a newer more contemporary approach, you need louder, more fast paced music, you need to change to seeker friendly services (no ties,sports clothes, relax, relax,get comfortable), most of all don"t talk about sin, someone might be offended. Talk about, psychology, why people do the things they do, but don't call it SIN. Yep, the devil never CHANGES!!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-11764931234395070762008-06-30T10:51:00.000-04:002008-06-30T10:51:00.000-04:00Those praying for the bloggers to be exposed bette...<I>Those praying for the bloggers to be exposed better be careful what they pray for. Things will get considerably worse and much more public if this blog moves from a "harmless bunch of anonymous cowards" to real live leaders in our church and community with names and faces. It is in Team Brunson's best interest that these bloggers not be "exposed."<BR/><BR/>If and when the bloggers decide to take this to the next level, don't worry, you will all know who they are when you see them on the news and read about them in the paper. But for now, they choose restraint and prayer and patience and anonymous blogging.</I><BR/><BR/>Now that's funny...Jon L. Esteshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13197096460227507823noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-85113316760598106542008-06-30T10:50:00.000-04:002008-06-30T10:50:00.000-04:00NO its in everyone's best interest that you ARE ex...NO its in everyone's best interest that you ARE exposed. When you draw a line thru the pastors face and say you want freedom from mac brunson day...The only thing I thought when I saw that was that dude you are on dangerous ground. Please reconsider what you are doing for your own sake, some of your stuff is really coming across as threatening.<BR/>I am leaving the church next Sunday to go find a new one...and praying about it. This blog has really made my mind uneasy about Baptists in general, and that just won't work for me, cause it gets in the way of my relationship to God. The Baptist church is absolutely FULL of people like you all, and I just can't deal with it and keep a good relationship to God. I just ask you, blogger, if you have a problem with this church to PLEASE for your sake find another church before something bad befalls you. LOOK AT THIS POST...you have drawn a LINE THRU THE FACE OF THE PASTOR....thats THREATENING, can't you see it? I wish so much I had never stumbled across this blog. I don't like knowing about people like you and all the rich people of First Baptist. It has made me realize I never belonged there in the first place. And everybody who is supporting this blogger the watchdog, you all PLEASE think about what you are doing.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-55169811248112824122008-06-30T08:09:00.000-04:002008-06-30T08:09:00.000-04:00Those praying for the bloggers to be exposed bette...Those praying for the bloggers to be exposed better be careful what they pray for. Things will get considerably worse and much more public if this blog moves from a "harmless bunch of anonymous cowards" to real live leaders in our church and community with names and faces. It is in Team Brunson's best interest that these bloggers not be "exposed." <BR/><BR/>If and when the bloggers decide to take this to the next level, don't worry, you will all know who they are when you see them on the news and read about them in the paper. But for now, they choose restraint and prayer and patience and anonymous blogging.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-12499120058272248912008-06-30T00:53:00.000-04:002008-06-30T00:53:00.000-04:00There is now enough facts to prove that Rick Warre...There is now enough facts to prove that Rick Warren is in error if not a false teachers. <BR/><BR/>Here is a brief list of men with whom Rick Warren associates and or references in his book The Purpose Driven Life.<BR/><BR/>Ken Blanchard<BR/>Brian McLaren<BR/>Brother Lawrence<BR/>St John of the Cross<BR/>Henri Nouwen<BR/>Leonard Sweet <BR/>Most if not all of these men believe in some form of Mysticism.<BR/><BR/>Rick Warren said "God is in everything". That is Pantheism. I've read that "This is a flat out lie from SATAN"<BR/><BR/>Given all the above, ANYTHING THAT COMES OUT OF THE MOUTH OF RICK WARREN IS SUSPECT.<BR/><BR/>PREACHERS BEWARE!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-73465715842634179502008-06-30T00:33:00.000-04:002008-06-30T00:33:00.000-04:00That same mindset of: the person who attempts to s...That same mindset of: the person who attempts to shed light on the misdeeds of a pastor is a person who wants to destroy the church, is evil and must be exposed (for what reason should they be exposed? Why to be humilated and persecuted and thrown out of the church of course!), and instead of examining the deeds of the pastor carefully, prayer FOR the pastor against the "attack" is asked for...and pray that the evil doer will be punished.<BR/><BR/>This is the same, and I mean the very exact same mindset running through Trinity that allowed Bob Gray to do what he did.<BR/><BR/>I would say pray for the people of FBC Jax that their eyes would be opened to the phony they have in their midst and it isn't a blogger...forget about praying to expose the coward blogger, pray for the people who have been blinded.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-6545897584325576122008-06-30T00:12:00.000-04:002008-06-30T00:12:00.000-04:00Quote from a FBC Jax Facebook site where the "evil...Quote from a FBC Jax Facebook site where the "evil amongst us" is being discussed:<BR/><BR/>"First Baptist, I am not starting this to cause division, or to cause anger or upstart. I am simply trying to reveal the underhandedness of some in our church and call you all to prayer. There is an evil in our midst trying to destroy the good. Please pray for our pastor, and for this coward to be exposed."<BR/><BR/>Yep, pray for Mac Brunson, the poor pastor being unfairly attacked. And let's go after that dastardly "evil in our midst" blogger.<BR/><BR/>How sad - people in our church are following men and not Jesus.<BR/><BR/>Shame on you.FBC Jax Watchdoghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10740366031265491559noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-84295583417169394832008-06-29T22:28:00.000-04:002008-06-29T22:28:00.000-04:00Sorry, won't move on. The blog exists so that othe...Sorry, won't move on. The blog exists so that others at our church will know the truth about Mac Brunson. <BR/><BR/>But you bring up some good points!FBC Jax Watchdoghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10740366031265491559noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-51625365630672419742008-06-29T22:08:00.000-04:002008-06-29T22:08:00.000-04:00MOVE ON-Okay, we know Brunson took the $307,000 va...MOVE ON-<BR/>Okay, we know Brunson took the $307,000 valued property. His wife drives a Jag, He wears expensive suits and is given watches by members so he does not have to buy them himself. His wife is on staff. His son is on staff. His trips to the Holy Land and possibly other places are probably paid by the travelers or Purpose travel. He wrote a book and apparently did not even use his own advise. So... Now.. move on-<BR/><BR/>The real issues now are:<BR/>-Less than 100 kids went on the Summer trip when once over 250 went.<BR/><BR/>-The loft is dark on Wednesdays.<BR/><BR/>-The hymnal is never used any more.<BR/><BR/>-The staff is pushing "group" Sunday School in place of God's Word.<BR/><BR/>-Summer music was cancelled for the summer!<BR/><BR/>-The church programs are totally upside down.<BR/><BR/>- Kids are not saying their memory verses.<BR/><BR/>-Sun night is now Wed. night... Wed night is now Sunday-<BR/><BR/>-The choir is dismissed so much its looking sparse<BR/><BR/>-While once on the finest and best musicians and preachers filled the FBC pulpit area.. now...anyone seems to fill in.<BR/><BR/><BR/>-There are now at least 25 paid staff: Steve Clifton, Kevin King, Marcus Allen Jr. and Sr, Shelly Taylor, Shelly Norman, Dan Elkins, Jonathan Wlch, David Champagne, Ryan Vickery, Marilyn Kirkpatrick, Fran Hawk(PT I think), Steve M. and Paul M, Edson D., Dr. Whitmire, Nancy Brant, Debra Baily?, Louise Cantrell?, George Kemp(plus all of his Intl trips), Jim Smyrl, Mac, Debbie, Trey...How can the church financially pay all of these staff members?<BR/>- Move on from the house that MB got..... We know that now.. Move on and lets move to solve other pressing issues! Move On-Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-21088908346889406302008-06-29T21:07:00.000-04:002008-06-29T21:07:00.000-04:00Dr. Watchdog please bear with my folly.......For t...Dr. Watchdog please bear with my folly.......For those of you who think that just because a man is a Pastor that God has called him. Please explain what JESUS meant when He warned of WOLVES in SHEEP clothing in Matt.7:15. Who are the false Christ and false prophets JESUS' mentioned in Matt.24:5,11,24? The Apostle Paul urged the Ephesus Elders night and day for three years about GREVIOUS WOLVES and men teaching PERVERSE(distorted) things infiltrating there Church; Who were these interlopers?[Acts 20:28-31].The Corinthian Christians were alerted to men who were masquerading as MINISTERS of rigtheous when in fact they were proxies of Satan who was presenting himself as an ANGEL of LIGHT.Who are they?[2Cor.11:3,13-15].Paul warned the Christians in Galatia of dangerous men who were distorting the Gospel,and condemned those false teachers[Gal:7-9].God gave TRUE PREACHERS to counter the false so that the Ephesus believers would not be "tossed to and fro,with every wind of doctrine,by the SLEIGHT of men,and cunning craftiness,whereby they lie in wait to deceive"[Eph.4:14]. The Colossians were in danger of being lead away "through philosophy and vain deceit(PD),after the traditions of MEN,and not after CHRIST[Col.2:8].The Holy Spirit discloses in Scripture of "doctrines of demons" being perpetrated by hypocritical liars(Preachers)who have no conscience[1Tim.4:1] Timothy was charged to preach the Word because a time was coming when people would not LISTEN TO SOUND DOCTRINE,but chose teachers who can reach the contemporary people and their families[2Tim.4:14]. Titus was informed to deal with "many unruly and vain talkers and deceivers(PREACHERS);who mouths must be stopped,who subvert whole houses,teaching things which they ought not,FOR FILTHY LUCRE'S SAKE[Titus 1:10-11].Peter gets in on the action by warning the early Christians and those today of FALSE TEACHERS INFILTRATING the Church and teaching "FEIGNED"(plastos;plastics)words to make merchandise(gain) of the people[2Pet.2:1-3].Finally people the servant Jude counciled the believers to "earnestly contend for the faith which was once delivered to the saints". Why this warning "For there are certain men(false teachers)CREPT IN UNAWARES"[Jude 4]. Lets be clear,I'm not calling Dr Brunson a false teacher,But to put to rest this ignorance that just because a man is a pastor or preacher that it was God who called him. Many are called by Satan,money,power,prestige,or other selfish reasons. This also believe that I have only given you a small sampling of what the Bible warns about deceptive men posing as Prophets,Apostles,Pastors,Teachers,and Evangelist,the Bible is replete with these references.We are commanded to be Berean Christian and "SEARCH THE SCRIPTURES DAILY,whether those things be so".[Acts 17:11]. Concerning Purpose Driven: Dave Hunt,Dr.John MacAuthur,Dr.R.C.Sproul,Dr.Steve Lawson,Dr.Mark Devers,and other great preachers and theologians unequivocally CONDEMN IT AS DANGEROUS!!!!!!!.Finally as a Pastor myself I must continually be on guard to protect the people of God over which HE has made me the overseer; To feed the flock which HE has purchase with HIS ON BLOOD. Also Dr.Watchdog I believe your intentions and concerns appear to be geniune.In my ministry I make every effort to be transparent in all our business,and my door is always open to any member without reservation or intimidations.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com