tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post7840314875626937060..comments2024-03-23T22:54:58.661-04:00Comments on FBC Jax Watchdogs: Ronnie Floyd Tells His Non-Tithing Church Members: You and I Don't Know the Same GodFBC Jax Watchdoghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10740366031265491559noreply@blogger.comBlogger38125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-26359130482645222892017-09-16T10:26:41.614-04:002017-09-16T10:26:41.614-04:00He's a piece of junk. Another drop in the buc...He's a piece of junk. Another drop in the bucket of junk Christians in it for the money.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09591850479113093537noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-41508085376664167352017-09-16T10:25:49.306-04:002017-09-16T10:25:49.306-04:00He's a piece of junk. Another drop in the buc...He's a piece of junk. Another drop in the bucket of junk Christians in it for the money.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-4083998839280202922016-05-29T01:05:04.241-04:002016-05-29T01:05:04.241-04:00My mother was a teacher for 30 years. Her mental i...My mother was a teacher for 30 years. Her mental illness found her homeless living in her car (unknown to me). She lived in a different state but I brought her up here to live with me until she could get on her feet. She approached Ronnie Floyd's with help to fix her vehicle so she could get back to searching for work. They told her that fixing a car did not qualify for help. Here a lady helped teaching children for 30 years found herself needing some help to get back on her feetAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-25036476196584185522016-02-23T13:51:37.910-05:002016-02-23T13:51:37.910-05:00I was a member at the then-First Baptist Church of...I was a member at the then-First Baptist Church of Springdale, Arkansas when Ronnie Floyd arrived (don't get me started on his pushing the congregation to rename itself "CrossChurch" - makes me wonder what they're mad at, by the way, in addition to being Ronnie's aversion to being called a "baptist"). I walked out after about 1-1/2 years of it - I couldn't stand his unscriptural teaching, methods, egotism, and willingness to destroy anyone who stood in his way of promoting HIMSELF.<br /><br />Truth be told, Ronnie Floyd LIED to the church when he was presented to the congregation for open questions from the floor! When asked what his doctoral dissertation was about, he said, "Church growth", and, sadly, NO ONE bothered to see if he was telling the truth...<br /><br />Well, he WASN'T! If you go to the library at Southwestern Theological Seminary in Ft. Worth and look at it, (and, yes, I have), you will find it is all about MONEY! Getting people to give MONEY! That's it - plain and simple. There is not one sentence about "church growth" in it at all - just about getting people to give more MONEY!<br /><br />After all, that's what fuels Ronnie Floyd's egocentric, unbiblical theology and practices: MONEY! For, MONEY is what it takes - and LOTS of it - to accomplish his goal of promoting HIMSELF, because that's what he's all about - promoting Ronnie Floyd, and ANYTHING that will do so is GOOD, and anything or anyone that hinders his goal is BAD, and must be destroyed.<br /><br />Ronnie Floyd is a manipulator, a liar, and a false prophet, and it's really sad that he destroyed the great church that God built during the 16 years of Cliff Palmer's pastorate prior to Ronnie's descending upon Northwest Arkansas.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-79944894782367932652016-01-07T15:52:03.872-05:002016-01-07T15:52:03.872-05:00Thank you Amy Hall for the truth. Which seems to b...Thank you Amy Hall for the truth. Which seems to be lacking on this blog. Cross Churches and Ronnie Floyd have and do wonderful things with the tithing. If people are not tithing then they should be reminded to do so. Shame on the blogger and those that are judging Ronnie Floyd and Cross Church. They are judging someone they know nothing about!!!<br />Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05297687356461310356noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-31404232241148388012016-01-07T15:46:03.479-05:002016-01-07T15:46:03.479-05:00Amy Hall, thank you. You are so right. The Cross c...Amy Hall, thank you. You are so right. The Cross churches do wonderful things with money that is tithed. This blogger that is bashing Ronnie Floyd doesn't have a clue what he is talking about, nor do the people commenting on this blog. Shame on them for judging someone or a Church they know nothing about. The blogger's time would be better spent doing 1/10 the good that Ronnie Floyd has done for others. I am disgusted at the lies and comments on here!!!!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05297687356461310356noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-37547212259591058062015-12-24T18:34:36.189-05:002015-12-24T18:34:36.189-05:00Dude eats at Abuelos all the time. They are a bar....Dude eats at Abuelos all the time. They are a bar...they spit in his food though. So...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-34470102954624647212015-12-24T18:31:08.600-05:002015-12-24T18:31:08.600-05:00It's funny that this guy says he won't eat...It's funny that this guy says he won't eat popcorn from a place that serves beer. The clown eats at Abuelos all the time...and he tips like shit. But they always spit in his food so...Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03941868649146811444noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-62929425667693166992015-07-04T18:26:26.928-04:002015-07-04T18:26:26.928-04:00Why does Dr. Mohler embrace guys like Dr. Floyd an...Why does Dr. Mohler embrace guys like Dr. Floyd and Dr. Moore?princelibertynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-37534756187681688892015-01-28T07:24:44.057-05:002015-01-28T07:24:44.057-05:00Tom Parker:
"Why does he even have one member...Tom Parker:<br />"Why does he even have one member at his church?"<br />Because Tom, deep down, we think we are saved by the institutional church membership. Paulhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04610383351649422416noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-8629198082991713442014-12-03T05:53:15.289-05:002014-12-03T05:53:15.289-05:00We are living in the New Covenant and the old cove...We are living in the New Covenant and the old covenant is obsolete when we read the book of Hebrews. As believers of the new covenant church, it is not the matter of 10% or 20%, we need to give ourselves to God. It can be 5, 10 or what ever percentage that God wants us to give wholeheartly with out any compulsion, or obligation or as a tradition or system. Most of the preachers who force their congregation to give are selfish and they do not teach the truth of sacrificial giving. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-17472017456831143002014-12-01T01:39:52.095-05:002014-12-01T01:39:52.095-05:00I was there in the 90s with my grandparents, I hav...I was there in the 90s with my grandparents, I have never before, nor after, seen any one ( I will not call him a pastor) say with a finger in the air "God says, ATLEAST 10%" unquote. I would really like to see cross churches budget, I know of nothing that this church does for charity or gives back to the community. Most of all, I would like to see his tax return and how much of that at-least 10% he's poketing, let alone payed out, I would bet my entire salary that it is not 10%, let alone more. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-48308700271306320632014-11-30T22:52:51.241-05:002014-11-30T22:52:51.241-05:00Tithing is biblical--please read Old Testament. V...Tithing is biblical--please read Old Testament. Very clear. New Testament does not talk about tithing specifically. But if you read the Sermon on the Mount (most famous sermon ever given) it amplifies the law--the law is just a STARTING POINT--we are to go above the law in our fulfillment of obligation to Jesus. Do you disagree?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16027561085913014543noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-26459269932701101282014-06-23T19:01:07.726-04:002014-06-23T19:01:07.726-04:00Since Ronnie was elected to the SBC presidency, I ...Since Ronnie was elected to the SBC presidency, I wonder how many arms got twisted and how many pastors and others were treated to underhanded backstabbing as in Arkansas several years ago. Read the article on "good ole Ronnie" by David Montoya in "Leaving the Fold: Testimonies of Former Fundamentalists"Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-68295917184678986752014-06-14T17:11:20.298-04:002014-06-14T17:11:20.298-04:00Dr. Floyd is speaking on the subject of tithing wh...Dr. Floyd is speaking on the subject of tithing which is commanded for all believers. To ask the church to give ten percent is only doing what God has already asked of us.<br /><br />Malachi 3:10<br /><br />Tithing was in place before during and after the ministry of Jesus. I have found that the only people who complain about a pastor speaking on giving are those who don't give.<br /><br /> David Hendersonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-70305898792221663472014-06-12T00:31:02.400-04:002014-06-12T00:31:02.400-04:00Several years back this very man was involved in ...Several years back this very man was involved in filing a lawsuit on behalf of the church in Springdale over non tithing by a family that had lost everything to a fire. There were several writeups at the time, would love for someone to find a link to the article to share it. Wish I could. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-87010039002865877852014-06-11T11:59:12.473-04:002014-06-11T11:59:12.473-04:00And now Floyd is the president of the Southern Bap...And now Floyd is the president of the Southern Baptist Convention, with Albert Mohler's explicit approval. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-32296040336322455352014-06-11T00:26:14.340-04:002014-06-11T00:26:14.340-04:00Read all thirteen books of the apostle Paul. I cha...Read all thirteen books of the apostle Paul. I challenge you to find where he instructed the Gentiles to pay any Tithes to anybody. Tithes were not originally meant to be monetary, they were to come from the land and could only be paid to the Levites. Additionally, under the new covenant, He no longer dwells in temples made by hands. WE are now the temple of the living God. <br />You'll never hear that on Sunday morning over at SixFlags over Jesus.<br />I give money each Sunday. It's not 10% of my salary, but it's what I can afford. I give because I appreciate the message delivered and I believe in the good works of my church. I know God. I think somewhere along the way ole Ronnie has put God on the backburner in his quest for material wealth. Sad...<br />Joe Purdynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-67206539184095199692014-06-10T13:30:46.976-04:002014-06-10T13:30:46.976-04:00Well said Amy!! I am a cheerful giver! The Bible s...Well said Amy!! I am a cheerful giver! The Bible says to tithe and I stand by that.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10515231569666845748noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-38883433840654740682014-06-10T12:29:39.010-04:002014-06-10T12:29:39.010-04:00The cowardly anonymous holler the loudest. Gentil...The cowardly anonymous holler the loudest. Gentiles are under the entire Bible not just the New Testament. The widow gave all.she had to the church and Jesus rebuked the wealthy for not tithing using her as an example. Terry Eversnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-22995705227775528572014-03-05T00:16:53.406-05:002014-03-05T00:16:53.406-05:00Al Mohler just nominated Floyd as a candidate for ...Al Mohler just nominated Floyd as a candidate for president of the SBC.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-33936568770948500922014-02-09T20:58:42.854-05:002014-02-09T20:58:42.854-05:00He has no consistent hermeneutic. He does not unde...He has no consistent hermeneutic. He does not understand the defintion of holy tithe under the law. He does not know that Gentiles never were under that law. Hey guys, stop being anonymous and stand up to make yourselves heard louder.Russell Earl Kellyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08503861082402192378noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-50999259154060029692014-02-01T18:04:09.533-05:002014-02-01T18:04:09.533-05:00This is actually financial legalism he is teaching...This is actually financial legalism he is teaching. I was beating my head recently trying to figure out how to be financially savvy and the LORD made me realize that ALL I needed to was to be financially responsible and make good decisions. Giving to your church first is actually never taught by Paul at all. He instructed Timothy to instruct congegants to take care of family members in need first. As a congregant gets blessed financially and family staples are met then those in the assembly can be given to. Sadly tithing doctrines perverts something far worse, the lack of caring for thy neighbors welfare and that ten percent is good enough via the elders. So the rest I can be selfish with???Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-59265935660932881962014-02-01T09:24:11.826-05:002014-02-01T09:24:11.826-05:00Mandatory tithing is NOT once taught in the New te...Mandatory tithing is NOT once taught in the New testament. It was an old testament ordinance, just like circumcision, and was done away with under the new covenant. But these "men o' gawd", as they call themselves continue to use the "office of a bishop", and their "spiritual authority" to demand that people give them a tithe. <br /><br />So let's look at the legal definition of extortion:<br />ex-tor-tion: the crime of obtaining money or some other thing of value by the abuse of one's office or authority. <br /><br />So if these men are using their office of a bishop, and their spiritual authority to get money that they are not biblically allowed to get, then they are EXTORTIONERS! And what does the bible say about extortioners?<br /><br />Corinthians 6:10 <br />nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, NOR EXTORTIONERS, shall inherit the kingdom of God.<br /><br />So he is right in what he is saying. Since he will not inherit the kingdom of God, he does not serve the God of scripture, but rather the God of filthy earned money. So how should the Christian respond to these type of false profit prophets?<br /><br /><br />1 Corinthians 5:11 but as it is, I wrote unto you not to keep company, if any man that is named a brother be a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolater, or a reviler, or a drunkard, or an extortioner; with such a one no, not to eat.<br /><br />Come out from among this harlot Babylonian religious system, and be ye separate.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-9884786248182488092014-02-01T00:42:09.754-05:002014-02-01T00:42:09.754-05:00To Anon 10:53 AM
Well, that's why the churche...To Anon 10:53 AM<br /><br />Well, that's why the churches won't tell the congregations we are really in a depression now! It's easier to manipulate by saying if they give 10 percent, the world will change. All these churches do is go around screwing people up horribly.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com