tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post7869617358195567191..comments2024-03-23T22:54:58.661-04:00Comments on FBC Jax Watchdogs: More Tithing Madness: Jacksonville Pastor Lays Down the Law, Calls Members "Heel Grabbers" and "Supplanters"FBC Jax Watchdoghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10740366031265491559noreply@blogger.comBlogger31125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-22509081749033614572011-04-06T11:18:24.098-04:002011-04-06T11:18:24.098-04:00Good to see you post John Wylie. We've missed...Good to see you post John Wylie. We've missed you. Hope you will post more often.WishIhadknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12487727353887788291noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-21819986867101234022011-04-05T13:44:22.946-04:002011-04-05T13:44:22.946-04:00Anon 2:55 pm
The verse is Gal. 5:4 not 1 Cor. 5:4...Anon 2:55 pm<br /><br />The verse is Gal. 5:4 not 1 Cor. 5:4. I agree with your point, I just thought that needed to be corrected. No disrespect intended.John Wyliehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16095740536301292747noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-49258499560172667412011-04-05T11:44:01.392-04:002011-04-05T11:44:01.392-04:00No one said the pastor wasn't free to preach w...No one said the pastor wasn't free to preach what he wants to preach. But he isn't free from criticism when Bereans compare what he says with the word.cheezewhizchurchhttp://cheezewhizchurch.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-39678705116360800932011-04-05T11:37:42.972-04:002011-04-05T11:37:42.972-04:00The Watchdog has gone after pastors who are Caucas...The Watchdog has gone after pastors who are Caucasian far more often than any who are not. It is ignorant, and less than honest, to accuse him of racial favoritism in what he posts here. Ed Young, Jr., Mac Brunson, etc., etc.<br /><br />Of course, heresy is not limited to any one race or status. "Jesus + ", including "Jesus + tithing", is a heresy.Arcenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-32926344551404702802011-04-05T08:54:06.286-04:002011-04-05T08:54:06.286-04:00Shortly before Larry Burkett died I was listening ...Shortly before Larry Burkett died I was listening to his program and he actually said that if people aren't paying a tithe, he questioned if they were even saved. I could not believe what I was hearing. I had always appreciated his message about reducing personal debt and proper investment. Boy was I a sucker. It was at that moment that I really understood that the whole tithing doctrine had turned into yet more legalism. Sad, very sad.Katienoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-79880830373203980072011-04-04T22:54:43.203-04:002011-04-04T22:54:43.203-04:00Billy Graham doesn't beg for money because he ...Billy Graham doesn't beg for money because he has made $500,000 per year for many years. He is making it now and not even working. Every dollar you give, millions go towards the Graham family salaries.<br /><br />Google it yourself.<br /><br />They are robbing God's people yet you don't see anyone speaking up about that.<br /><br />Why?<br /><br />Because it is easy to go after the Black guy and make him look like a fool.<br /><br />Who's fool are you?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-55979942478097983332011-04-04T22:30:26.111-04:002011-04-04T22:30:26.111-04:00The real cause of our economic difficulties is Pre...The real cause of our economic difficulties is Preachers preaching tithing! This is the real judgment of God. ;)WishIhadknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12487727353887788291noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-52338283694098536922011-04-04T21:37:45.657-04:002011-04-04T21:37:45.657-04:00I have never seen Billy Graham begging for money. ...I have never seen Billy Graham begging for money. I have read that from the begging he made a vow <br /> to God that if God wanted him to preach the one thing he would not do was to beg for money, and it would be up to God to provideAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-53563027135364184462011-04-04T18:54:06.069-04:002011-04-04T18:54:06.069-04:00Of course Dave Ranmsey teaches the tithe. Most of ...Of course Dave Ranmsey teaches the tithe. Most of his income comes from presenting his course in churches and he teaches the tithe on purpose.<br /><br /> The churches have made him rich. No way would he give up the gravy train.<br /><br />So they buy his materials and tithe to the pastor and everyone is happy. It is a business deal.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-82509507171012347902011-04-04T18:51:43.356-04:002011-04-04T18:51:43.356-04:00"The Pastor is teaching what Charles Stanley,..."The Pastor is teaching what Charles Stanley, Adrian Rogers, Jim Henry, Billy Graham, Dave Ramsey and others teach."<br /><br />If anyone thinks any of these are hero's they are not following Christ but man.<br /><br />Charles Stanley once said that anyone who went against him early on in his church got cancer or lost their jobs.<br /><br />Billy Graham has said several times that one can be saved without knowing Jesus Christ. Don't believe me? google it and watch the video of him telling Robert Schuller this very thing. He also repeated this in a Newsweek interview in the 1990's.<br /><br />the biggest problem in Christendom is this following of man instead of Christ. It is an epidemic. One would think being in the USA with so much freedom, we would study on our own and understand the priesthood better. But it is easier to elevate man than Christ in your life.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-77009784552837895652011-04-04T18:45:55.762-04:002011-04-04T18:45:55.762-04:00Anon 5:05 - at what church did you hear that lack ...Anon 5:05 - at what church did you hear that lack of tithing is causing our national financial woes?FBC Jax Watchdoghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10740366031265491559noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-92222263875218492332011-04-04T17:05:54.004-04:002011-04-04T17:05:54.004-04:00Well, we heard it yesterday... The lack of tithin...Well, we heard it yesterday... The lack of tithing could be the cause of the current financial difficulties the United States of America is suffering through! ARRGH!!!<br /><br />Hey turnyoureyes, don't you get it? The church is not the pastors. The pastors are more then happy to accept the responsibility and authority the church members extend when the pastor is "hired" but heaven forbid these same people who "hired" the pastor are viewed to be full of crap when they question the anointed one! So how can the same people be perfectly correct when they are led to "hire" the anointed one but then be totally off the mark when they dare question the anointed one?? The pastor works for the church membership!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-61063737551939560362011-04-04T16:37:54.760-04:002011-04-04T16:37:54.760-04:00And what all of them teach about tithing is a here...And what all of them teach about tithing is a heresy. It is "Jesus +", not Jesus alone.Arcenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-18542562185304041952011-04-04T14:55:40.415-04:002011-04-04T14:55:40.415-04:00To all of you who wish to believe the tithe is sti...To all of you who wish to believe the tithe is still apart of the NT. I Cor 5:4 " Chirst is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law, ye are fallen from grace".<br /><br />A 12 year old can understand this verse why can't older people much less pastors?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-44922035356973957582011-04-04T14:39:09.089-04:002011-04-04T14:39:09.089-04:00This is America, this Pastor is absolutely free to...This is America, this Pastor is absolutely free to preach this!<br /><br />Many in the Christian community are like the Taliban.<br /><br />They disagree with a Pastor and set out to tear him down.<br /><br />The Pastor is teaching what Charles Stanley, Adrian Rogers, Jim Henry, Billy Graham, Dave Ramsey and others teach.<br /><br />I don't see you tearing them down?<br /><br />Yes, you go after Ed Young, Mac, etc.<br /><br />Why not some of your heroes?<br /><br />This Pastor is trying to use the money for the right reasons....is someone forcing these people to give?<br /><br />Are they forced to go this Church?<br /><br />Is this not a free Country?<br /><br />Or are you only free if you tow the Line of you Legalists?turnureyesonJChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04665662481139555976noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-66381838334356573242011-04-04T13:41:39.681-04:002011-04-04T13:41:39.681-04:00Jacob's name was changed to Israel after he wr...Jacob's name was changed to Israel after he wrestled with God.<br /><br />And where did he "tithe" in order to get that new name?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-61436325288219489782011-04-04T11:54:06.033-04:002011-04-04T11:54:06.033-04:00Amen to Francois Moreaneau's comment.Amen to Francois Moreaneau's comment.Rameshhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09728392311602332613noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-29292904791178137032011-04-04T11:44:35.787-04:002011-04-04T11:44:35.787-04:00I have sat in many churches where the preaching wa...I have sat in many churches where the preaching was equally abusive and I was so offended, while many in the audience were goading on the man behind the pulpit. I remember being so offended at one sermon directed against women, that I thought I had lost my mind or somehow had gone down the rabbit hole with Alice.<br /><br />I could not stop looking around at the parishoners who were delighted and eagerly imbibing the abuse and eventually I walked out. This led to more abuse from the pulpit. I have often wanted to raise my hand in churches and question speakers "Where do you get this from?" I have spent much time in the church feeling dazed, confused, alienated unable to reconcile what I was reading in the Bible and devotion material with the completely contradictory material being presented by the men on the platforms. <br /><br />Unfortunately, these little fiefdoms are organized on one principle: Submit unquestioningly to the man in the front of the room or leave. <br /><br />The lack of true Christian discipleship which exercises accountability and authority over the men in the pulpits has unleashed this wave of charlatans within American church, and worse yet, upon the international churches.Francois Moreaneaunoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-11598106289575026822011-04-04T11:43:34.778-04:002011-04-04T11:43:34.778-04:00I must admit, this is a completely new angle but t...I must admit, this is a completely new angle but trust me it is not the most outlandish of the lot.<br /><br />A renowned Nigerian preacher has actually preached that those who do not tithe are actually guilty of the sin of Achan (Joshua 7) and would endanger the congregation of which they are a part of. i.e. the entire congregation would come under a curse because of the sin of one man. Sigh!<br /><br />God help us.Tony Isaachttp://www.eliteinchrist.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-84759037452729080062011-04-04T10:59:30.848-04:002011-04-04T10:59:30.848-04:00I strongly suspect the racialized comment by "...I strongly suspect the racialized comment by "Anyonymous" was NOT genuine. I think he/she was just pulling our leg, to get folks riled up...NYTNhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15787077208785930617noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-33243881324740050402011-04-04T10:58:30.481-04:002011-04-04T10:58:30.481-04:00This comment has been removed by the author.NYTNhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15787077208785930617noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-23706740838048752742011-04-04T09:41:00.686-04:002011-04-04T09:41:00.686-04:00Two words Dr.Dog; "CON MAN"!Two words Dr.Dog; "CON MAN"!Bro./Min.Rod H.noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-8621922962120674722011-04-04T09:26:01.497-04:002011-04-04T09:26:01.497-04:00STS=TROLLSTS=TROLLAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-38726585737241263512011-04-04T00:30:49.805-04:002011-04-04T00:30:49.805-04:00Slow to Speak:
Me thinks you are just trying to s...Slow to Speak:<br /><br />Me thinks you are just trying to stir up trouble.Tom Parkerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12861689101266081092noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-42834528806815939892011-04-03T21:29:21.564-04:002011-04-03T21:29:21.564-04:00Pass the Plate please, cause I need it to throw up...Pass the Plate please, cause I need it to throw up in.<br /><br />And now turn to page 400 and stand as we sing...<br /><br />" Oh, what a wonderful <br />n u m b e r,<br /><br /> Oh what a heavenly thing, <br /><br /> 10% is such the magical <br /> n u m b e r, <br /><br /> Forget it if you don't give me anything "Mr Musicnoreply@blogger.com