tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post792748111890135943..comments2024-03-23T22:54:58.661-04:00Comments on FBC Jax Watchdogs: Gaines: Non-Tithers Driving Stolen Cars, Living in Stolen HomesFBC Jax Watchdoghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10740366031265491559noreply@blogger.comBlogger104125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-19370495395451227912011-07-08T16:16:46.154-04:002011-07-08T16:16:46.154-04:00We're all breathing stolen air too. Gaines in...We're all breathing stolen air too. Gaines included.terriergalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08801794520433439408noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-42898258534815173112010-03-13T09:02:41.237-05:002010-03-13T09:02:41.237-05:00Anonymous said...
"YEP! That is why I go...Anonymous said...<br /><br /> "YEP! That is why I go to the Methodist church now."<br /> February 1, 2010 3:01 PM<br /><br />You'd better watch out as Steve Gaines on Feb 28th was a guest speaker in a Methodist church in New Albany, MSAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-56968982638921174542010-02-12T20:00:09.848-05:002010-02-12T20:00:09.848-05:00The behavior of people that claim to pastor and ha...The behavior of people that claim to pastor and harass the sheep is so despicable.<br /><br />These 'pastors' are surely the 'wolves' warned about in scripture. And their victims know no peace under their 'care'. <br /><br />This is not about religion.<br />It is a sick, sick manipulation tactic by someone who needs to be brought to account.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-5973677514316971632010-02-04T10:48:08.203-05:002010-02-04T10:48:08.203-05:00"This guy is literally too stupid to insult.&..."This guy is literally too stupid to insult."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-14457149776967057352010-02-04T09:23:54.874-05:002010-02-04T09:23:54.874-05:00Friend-Brother etc. etc.:
Since Watchdog already ...Friend-Brother etc. etc.:<br /><br />Since Watchdog already has this blog., up and running, just look at it this way, it keeps many of the rest of us from starting one!!! You obviously just don't get what many having been screaming on this blog. The inequities practiced by these self-called opportunist is astounding and has NOTHING to do with the cause of Christ!!!<br /><br />Thanks Watchdog for providing this blog., to INFORM us of the many things that would go unnoticed and unchallenged. Thanks for the fine example of one that loves the Lord but doesn't allow opportunist to beat the sheep and call it a ministry. Kudos to you!!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-39364743525303402082010-02-04T09:08:14.804-05:002010-02-04T09:08:14.804-05:00Anon Feb 3 10:17pm ...Sorry you have no interest i...Anon Feb 3 10:17pm ...Sorry you have no interest in this site, however it happens to be an "eye opener" for a lot of us who were once in the dark but have now been enlightened. Men love darkness rather than light. Have you heard that? Maybe some of these men will recognize THEIR sin, get off THEIR pedestals, and look more at the less fortunate than THEMSELVES and become of more earthly good and really used by God. Every year about 1,000 Baptist preachers give up in the ministry....they were never called in the first place and they knew it, repented and found the right profession.<br /><br />Hiding the truth NEVER is a GOOD THING!!! The truth is what counts and only the truth. The secular world tries to hide truth every day. The born again ones are actually the only ones that tell the truth so why try to ignore it unless one is part of the blind leading the blind? Jesus told the leaders the truth and they crucified him for it. Each man must bear their own cross and I for one believe Watchdog has his own cross and more importantly, his own ministry which puts a lot of these megas to shame. He also does not request tithes and offerings which makes him BELIEVABLE. THANK YOU.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-45082999709164053102010-02-04T09:03:32.358-05:002010-02-04T09:03:32.358-05:00Friend, brother....it is obvious you have been dee...Friend, brother....it is obvious you have been deeply hurt. But shut this site down, and walk away. FBC has moved ahead and so should you. You are a smart guy with a great family. Just let this thing go and live life! Peace~<br />_________________________________<br /><br />Friend, brother. . . if FBCJ has moved on, this blog should have no interest in your life and therefore you are the one that needs to move on. <br /><br />Those of us, besides the author, who blog on this site do live a happy life and for you to ask that the site be shut down is so juvenile as FBCJ should be able to handle the critics.<br /><br />As for myself, as a member I did move on when Mac Brunson placed a public ban on an innocent woman (whom I did not know) from being on church property. This action made my blood boil and still does and obviously a lot of others who have left the fellowship. I never want to be in a church that has lock down to keep "inocent" people from coming in. <br /><br />Fan of the WD!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-36728182239020700282010-02-03T22:26:13.597-05:002010-02-03T22:26:13.597-05:00Thanks, brother. I have moved on, I'm not &quo...Thanks, brother. I have moved on, I'm not "deeply hurt", just deeply committed. Enjoying my family, loving life. If this site is distasteful to you, I suggest you move on, brother. Peace to you.FBC Jax Watchdoghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10740366031265491559noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-8849755847032226052010-02-03T22:17:40.242-05:002010-02-03T22:17:40.242-05:00Friend, brother....it is obvious you have been dee...Friend, brother....it is obvious you have been deeply hurt. But shut this site down, and walk away. FBC has moved ahead and so should you. You are a smart guy with a great family. Just let this thing go and live life! Peace~Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-67653305562380978982010-02-03T17:44:54.278-05:002010-02-03T17:44:54.278-05:00Matt: I don't think "Baptist and a few ot...Matt: I don't think "Baptist and a few others" becoming the only ones that can interpret scripture for the masses, will be anymore successful than "the others" were in the past. As a matter of fact it is my opinion, due to the ERROR I see, hear and read from today's scholar/clergy, less will be known, preached and generally understood by church members or the "men in the pulpits". It is called the FALLING AWAY of the church, in today's church of Laodicea. And BTW, since we are at this point of the Falling Away in this End Time church, all of the "Tithe" these preachers are demanding from people won't mean a thing, as money won't do them or anyone else any good. One can't buy their way out of anything, and one certainly "can't take it with them".Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-68662512777883937522010-02-03T17:17:54.792-05:002010-02-03T17:17:54.792-05:00I am also waiting. Can Gaines or Les or anyone sh...I am also waiting. Can Gaines or Les or anyone show me anywhere in either the NT or OT that anyone gave any percentage of their wages to a local body of believers? Thanks.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-36812185610785407872010-02-03T16:46:45.266-05:002010-02-03T16:46:45.266-05:00"I don't know exactly why you felt the ne..."I don't know exactly why you felt the need to bring up the "Catholic priests of old" comment. Are you trying to intimate that Catholic priests wanted individuals to be uneducated? If so, that was a long time ago."<br /><br />I certainly did not mean to offend. I was stating a fact of history. If you did not know Latin, you did not even know what the Priest was saying and for a long time even owning a Bible could get you jailed. Even though it was in Latin and only the Priests and educated could read it.<br /><br />Personally, I think Baptists and others are becoming like that to the degree they teach that only a few can interpret what scripture means for the masses.<br /><br />MattAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-6345195676618717302010-02-03T16:16:54.159-05:002010-02-03T16:16:54.159-05:00"I fear you are treading dangerously closely ..."I fear you are treading dangerously closely to antinomianism. Nowhere in the NT is the command to tithe removed."<br /><br />How long have you been waiting to use that word in a sentence?<br /><br />Where in the NT was the amount of giving changed from 23.3% to 10%?<br /><br />Les, feel free to impress us with your vocabulary in your answer.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-44555376997430079172010-02-03T16:10:02.250-05:002010-02-03T16:10:02.250-05:00Here's a quote from the Barna link:
Origins o...Here's a quote from the Barna link:<br /><br />Origins of Tithing:<br />Strangely, tithing is a Jewish practice, not a Christian principle espoused in the New Testament. The idea of a tithe - which literally means one-tenth or the tenth part - originated as the tax that Israelites paid from the produce of the land to support the priestly tribe (the Levites), to fund Jewish religious festivals, and to help the poor. The ministry of Jesus Christ, however, brought an end to adherence to many of the ceremonial codes that were fundamental to the Jewish faith. Tithing was such a casualty. Since the first-century, Christians have believed in generous giving, but have not been under any obligation to contribute a specific percentage of their income.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-87763239729467932052010-02-03T15:10:44.732-05:002010-02-03T15:10:44.732-05:00It appears even in churches where tithing is preac...It appears even in churches where tithing is preached the <a href="http://lesliepuryear.blogspot.com/2010/02/dangeously-close-to-antinomianism.html?showComment=1265165444674#c8321530965921158886" rel="nofollow">giving is around 2% to 3%</a>. See also <a href="http://www.barna.org/barna-update/article/18-congregations/41-new-study-shows-trends-in-tithing-and-donating" rel="nofollow">this</a>.Rameshhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09728392311602332613noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-22489148027297470752010-02-03T14:12:27.834-05:002010-02-03T14:12:27.834-05:00Some people just don't get it. They think inco...Some people just don't get it. They think incorrectly that just because the pastor says something that it is the Gospel. Well, one day they are going to learn that these "fat cats" have no real interest in anyone other than themselves. Hold onto your wallet and get out of there ASAP!!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-11691326245157789912010-02-03T14:07:43.454-05:002010-02-03T14:07:43.454-05:00The main reason many of these mega-church pastors ...The main reason many of these mega-church pastors enforce tithing on the people is directly reflected in their salaries and perks!!!<br /><br />These men are "GREDDY,GREEDY,GREEDY"!!!<br /><br />Greed,greed,greed in so-called men of God has been and will always be the defining sign given by the Bible to reveal to all who are willing to open their eyes and see!!!<br /><br />This,This,This is what drives them.<br /><br />Money,money,money Peter wrote in 2Pet.2:1-3!!!<br /><br />Greed will always expose these people until Christ Himself returns and sets of His Kingdom of Truth,peace and equity!!!Bro./Pastor Rod H.noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-51936989608205784402010-02-03T13:32:41.480-05:002010-02-03T13:32:41.480-05:00Some pew sitters Do like their pretty buildings.Some pew sitters Do like their pretty buildings.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-79498025355395915742010-02-03T13:24:31.737-05:002010-02-03T13:24:31.737-05:00Still waiting for an answer.
I'm beginning to ...Still waiting for an answer.<br />I'm beginning to believe that no one can defend the tithe as practiced in the OT.<br /><br />Unless I get an answer soon, I am going to have to conclude that:<br /><br />a) storehouse tithers are ignoring the contradiction hoping it will go away<br />b) storehouse tithers believe what their pastor says and don't care if it contradicts scripture<br />c) storehouse tithers put more stock in tradition than they do the word of God<br /><br />I'll repeat it again. Can't someone answer this simple question? Anyone? Buehler?<br /><br />"I continue to ask the question why 10% and not 23% like the OT requires. Where did God change the tithe from 23% in the OT to 10% in the NT? I am astonished that not one store house tithing advocate has even attempted to answer this question. I would seriously like to know how you can reconcile this seeming contridiction with scripture. Thanks."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-40953288424378569842010-02-03T13:08:34.128-05:002010-02-03T13:08:34.128-05:00Steward:
Great Post! The part about these guys be...Steward:<br /><br />Great Post! The part about these guys being addicted to "crack tithing" made me laugh out loud! :)<br /><br />But on a serious note, if the organized Church is going to spend millions of dollars remodelling their own buildings, I believe you would make much better use of your contributions by donating it to the Red Cross, Salvation Army, United Way, etc. <br /><br />And let me also add that it's a VERY SAD day in this country when the secular world is working harder to help the poor than the Church is !!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-78145646923167525492010-02-03T10:38:40.788-05:002010-02-03T10:38:40.788-05:00Great post Bro, Rod. I have been a staunch Baptist...Great post Bro, Rod. I have been a staunch Baptist all of my many years since I was saved. But, I have many and major problems with the Catholic doctrines. We also know that Catholic hierarchy really requires a major "influence" in giving to the "church" also. But, like you I have Catholic friends that show much more compassion, acceptance of others and indeed grace and graciousness as I have experienced personally, than those of my own church of MANY YEARS.<br /><br />Brittany: I also know where you and the blogger that has left the church to study at home, are coming from. Churches today, especially the SBC megas have LOST the calling and the message. These guys appear totally out for themselves. I see very little done for Jesus, very little soul winning. It is my opinion, that they aren't called to be preachers of the GOSPEL, but have called themselces to a lucrative "profession" of enriching and advancing themselves.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-17330281553023391412010-02-03T10:36:55.095-05:002010-02-03T10:36:55.095-05:00It would drive preachers nuts if they actually pra...It would drive preachers nuts if they actually practiced the faith it would require to build a ministry off of freewill gifts. It's much easier to mix the mandated tax and guilt to keep themselves in business. They can't stand the lack of financial control; that's why they are addicted to crack tithing.stewardhttp://churchtithesandofferings.com/blog/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-39589349466680713472010-02-03T10:18:14.622-05:002010-02-03T10:18:14.622-05:00TO Brother Rod, Thanks for your post. You are one...TO Brother Rod, Thanks for your post. You are one of my favorite regulars. Just wanted to follow up your post. Catholics do have some mixed up doctrine and interpretaions but I really have never encountered prejudice from Catholic church members against protestants the way I have in the Baptist church against Catholics. As a matter of fact, Baptists and Fundamentalists seem to be the most militant against Catholics.<br /><br />No worries. I am sure the madness will continue. Esp. when you have freaks like Smyrl proclaiming his hatred of us "Cult" members from the pulpit.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-65500744965815649442010-02-03T09:23:11.315-05:002010-02-03T09:23:11.315-05:00"Brittany, THANK YOU, THANK YOU for standing ..."Brittany, THANK YOU, THANK YOU for standing up to these Catholic-Bashing Baptists! I've wanted to for sooooo long but didn't want to be further offended by even more of their wrath. They hate Catholics even though they many won't come right out with it."<br /><br />February 3, 2010 7:49 AM<br /><br /><br />Entertained and Brittany; "No" one on this blog hates Catholics!<br />But there was a reason for the reformation.<br />There are major differences between what the Catholic church teaches as Biblical truth and what we as Protestants believe and teach on core Biblical doctrines.<br /><br />I have listen for years to Cathoilic apologist who refer to protestants as their seperated brothers who are in darkness because we do not agree on catholic teachings.<br /><br />Am I then to says catholics hate me because I don't agree with there teachings?<br /><br />My problem is not with individual catholics because I have some who are my co-workers and friends and I love and respect them!<br /><br />Just as I am a registered republican and conservative,but I have many friends,co-workers, and family who are democrats and liberal.<br />Do I hate them because of their veiws "NO"!<br /><br />My problem is with what the Catholics Church hierarchy "teaches" as Biblical truth just as Martin Luther had issue with them and nailed his disagreements on the door at Wittenburg!!!<br /><br />The Biblical model is not to hate those we disagree with but to love them!!!<br /><br />But my personal motto is "I desire clarity over agreement".<br />We don't have to agree on many things;<br />But I am required to love others as a true believer in Christ whether we agree or not!!!Bro./Pastor Rod H.noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-85223751018216358142010-02-03T08:01:59.376-05:002010-02-03T08:01:59.376-05:007:51 - yes, he's trying to stop people from gi...7:51 - yes, he's trying to stop people from giving to Haiti, if they haven't met his 10% threshold. He said the first 10% must come to the storehouse (his church), and to give that to any other relief organization is to put a curse on them.<br /><br />So if you give to the Red Cross part of your first 10%, you are either putting a curse on the Red Cross, or a curse on who the Red Cross gives it to.<br /><br />Sorry, Entertained, the irresponsibility should be attributed to Gaines.FBC Jax Watchdoghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10740366031265491559noreply@blogger.com