tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post834154029095427815..comments2024-03-23T22:54:58.661-04:00Comments on FBC Jax Watchdogs: Blogging Gems From the FBCJ FaithfulFBC Jax Watchdoghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10740366031265491559noreply@blogger.comBlogger42125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-19634515164791741112009-07-24T10:31:38.717-04:002009-07-24T10:31:38.717-04:00I would like to say somethings that I have noticed...I would like to say somethings that I have noticed by FBCJ. When I was younger we had a young lady come to our door while my mother was down with her back and she wanted to talk with us about the lord or witness to us. So my mother allowed her in and she sat there for about thirty minutes and witnessed to us. Which there was nothing wrong with that but then when she left my mother realized that she had stolen her check book and a week later she started bouncing checks and my parents filed charges against her and the church bailed her out and paid for everything that she had done. So I have never thought much about this church since hey are right beside the ones that do criminal acts against others. I do agree that the church is way to big and also is paid way to much. When you have other churches not making as much as theirs. Now they are offering school there as well so they are making more money for the church and pastor. I would not be apart of this church if someone paid me a million dollars. <br /><br />I also agree and applaude you for your attemps to recieve justice for what they have done to you and your family. I do not agree with a church banning people from it that is not goods way he never bands anyone from his kingdom if you are doing good work for him.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-47622038963690188622009-07-07T23:54:25.141-04:002009-07-07T23:54:25.141-04:00JESUS UPBRAIDS THE CHURCH LEADERS
There are many...JESUS UPBRAIDS THE CHURCH LEADERS <br /><br />There are many examples of Jesus upbraiding the Church leaders for their gross sins [selections from Matthew 23]: <br /><br />"But WOE unto you, Scribes and Pharisees, HYPOCRITES… FOR YOU SHUT UP THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN AGAINST MEN… <br /><br />…THEY BIND HEAVY BURDENS and GRIEVOUS to be borne, and lay them on men’s shoulders; but will not move them with ONE OF THEIR FINGERS <br /><br />WOE unto you, Scribes and Pharisees, HYPOCRITES… you DEVOUR WIDOW’S HOUSES… you shall receive the greater damnation. <br /><br />WOE unto you, Scribes and Pharisees, HYPOCRITES… <br /><br />WOE unto you, ye BLIND GUIDES… <br /><br />You FOOLS AND BLIND… <br /><br />You FOOLS AND BLIND… <br /><br />WOE unto you, Scribes and Pharisees, HYPOCRITES! You… have omitted… JUDGMENT, MERCY, and FAITH… <br /><br />You BLIND GUIDES, which strain out a gnat, and SWALLOW A CAMEL. <br /><br />WOE unto you, Scribes and Pharisees, HYPOCRITES… within they are full of EXTORTION AND EXCESS. <br /><br />You BLIND PHARISEES… <br /><br />WOE unto you, Scribes and Pharisees, HYPOCRITES! You are FULL OF DEAD MEN’S BONES, and ALL UNCLEANESS… and HYPOCRISY and INIQUITY… <br /><br />WOE unto you, Scribes and Pharisees, HYPOCRITES!… you are the children of them which KILLED the prophets. FILL YOU UP then the measure of your fathers. <br /><br />You SERPENTS, you GENERATION OF SNAKES… you KILL AND CRUCIFY… you SCOURGE in your synagogues… Behold your house is left unto you DESOLATE"!! <br /><br />WOW! Every one of these comments from Matt. 23 were spoken directly to the "Religious Scholars and Theologians" in the Church of God centered at the Temple in Jerusalem. Would Jesus speak in the same manner to the Religious Scholars and Theologians in God’s Church today? Does Jesus "change"? NO. Has the Church changed in the past 2000 years? YES. It has gotten WORSE.ForTruthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07699174223409293951noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-40820645314049633652009-06-27T12:01:22.314-04:002009-06-27T12:01:22.314-04:00TP - I don't think "Steve Wilcox" an...TP - I don't think "Steve Wilcox" and "Reverend Stephen W. Wilcox" you posted are the same. I believe Steve Wilcox is a former member of FBC Jax, and very much opposed to this blog, and now apparently agrees with Mac about my mental state, having never spoken to me, or my family or my friends.FBC Jax Watchdoghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10740366031265491559noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-55848586904148911382009-06-27T10:32:46.006-04:002009-06-27T10:32:46.006-04:00"I am going to try what the anon suggested: s..."I am going to try what the anon suggested: stop giving to FBC Jax (will still give to other ministries and local churches)and see how Maurilio and Team Brunson "raise funds" and respond. I hope others will join me. I will keep attending and serving, with my family, but let's see if they are all about the money. I hope the anon is wrong." <br /><br />June 27, 2009 8:06 AM<br /><br />The above spoke volumns to my feelings as I personally was offended to receive a hand written note 11-07-07 from "Jim Smyrl" explaining after much prayer God had led him to countinue with his personal ministry of "Loyal Heart Ministries",with his wife as the only "paid" employee and his plead for financial support in this additional ministry outside of being on the staff of FBC. Financial decisions as to how we would use God's financial blessings to the storehouse was decided upon the receipt of that note - and yes,they do leak out who gives what - and no we did not make the "select list" sent to the 210 members . . .Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-15076617961115495942009-06-27T09:41:27.448-04:002009-06-27T09:41:27.448-04:00Who in the world is Steve Wilcox anyway?
Should we...Who in the world is Steve Wilcox anyway?<br />Should we know him?<br />From where?<br />Tell me he's not a pastor!<br />You can read his pride right through his comments.<br />He sounds like a Mac Attack.Former FBC Insidernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-48863849643188769552009-06-27T09:29:34.716-04:002009-06-27T09:29:34.716-04:00Brunson preaching at the convention, it's a ve...Brunson preaching at the convention, it's a very tactical move really. It says that they stand by their man. They are all giving their approval of Mac's behavior and bullying style. Business as usual.<br />Thick as thieves.Former FBC Insidernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-16912097698486861222009-06-27T08:06:38.770-04:002009-06-27T08:06:38.770-04:00I am going to try what the anon suggested: stop g...I am going to try what the anon suggested: stop giving to FBC Jax (will still give to other ministries and local churches)and see how Maurilio and Team Brunson "raise funds" and respond. I hope others will join me. I will keep attending and serving, with my family, but let's see if they are all about the money. I hope the anon is wrong.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-2323084866705597972009-06-26T23:19:33.983-04:002009-06-26T23:19:33.983-04:00About the 13 year old who was strip searched at sc...About the 13 year old who was strip searched at school...<br /><br />That happened in my city. My kids went to schools in that district for awhile; I'm glad they didn't go to that school! And I'm glad that the Supreme Court decided the way it did.<br /><br />Many people here believe that principal should have been fired. But one yahoo commented in today's Starnet (online paper, azstarnet.com) that it will make it easier for kids to carry drugs into school now.<br /><br />Head in the sand, kind of like the "blogging gems" that Watchdog wrote.Elisabethhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14764962887542099106noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-22652983443027719802009-06-26T21:53:01.265-04:002009-06-26T21:53:01.265-04:00They Preach, (seriously one hateful and mean Pasto...They Preach, (seriously one hateful and mean Pastor? recently did ) "Terrorist in the Church's" <br /><br />What needs to be preached?<br /><br /><br />"Mafia in the Pulpits"<br /><br />They like deception to much.Dougnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-56947744976567966672009-06-26T21:02:55.168-04:002009-06-26T21:02:55.168-04:00Mac Brunson to preach 2010 convention sermon.
Wed...Mac Brunson to preach 2010 convention sermon.<br /><br />Wednesday, June 24, 2009 - 7:18:00 PM <br /><br />Messengers moments ago approved a recommendation from the Committee on Order of Business that Mac Brunson, senior pastor of First Baptist Church in Jacksonville, Fla., preach the 2010 convention sermon. Michael Catt, pastor of Sherwood (Ga.) Baptist Church, will serve as the alternate.<br /><br />June 26, 2009 6:16 PM<br /><br />The leaders are sending a message to the pew sitters: Lay off our preachers. They can be as reprobate as they want to be and we will support them.<br /><br />AFter the pedophile debacle, Gaines was preaching at SWBTS.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-14272167284379163472009-06-26T19:09:11.772-04:002009-06-26T19:09:11.772-04:00New BBC posts, "Messengers moments ago approv...<b>New BBC</b> posts, <i>"Messengers moments ago approved a recommendation from the Committee on Order of Business that Mac Brunson, senior pastor of First Baptist Church in Jacksonville, Fla., preach the 2010 convention sermon.</i><br /><br />If I can quote an obvious Brunson regime supporter from an earlier post, <i>"A nice topic for him to preach would be "How To Deal With Disgruntled, Discontented, and Ding Bat Church Members With Blogs."</i>Richardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17613931887262871062noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-32367423298209320712009-06-26T18:52:38.196-04:002009-06-26T18:52:38.196-04:00No surprise that Mac will be preaching at the conv...No surprise that Mac will be preaching at the convention. Still too early to read much into that, though I see two options:<br /><br />The powers that pick the presidents (Patterson, et al) are prepping Mac for a run.<br /><br />OR<br /><br />They are throwing him a bone, nominating someone else, but at least letting him preach at the convention, sell a few books, promote some more cruises, etc.<br /><br />Either way, it makes this blog more relevant because it is now about not just the local FBC Jax pastor, but it is about next year's featured speaker at our convention. Now his actions and deeds effect all southern baptists, if they hadn't already.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-53491633175705746962009-06-26T18:38:41.503-04:002009-06-26T18:38:41.503-04:00Well paparazzi I didn't think you'd answer...Well paparazzi I didn't think you'd answer me about why it is ok for Brunson to remain as pastor when he writes one thing and does the other. I guess your silence must be indicative of your approval.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-80562850696727733472009-06-26T18:16:45.428-04:002009-06-26T18:16:45.428-04:00Mac Brunson to preach 2010 convention sermon.
Wed...<b>Mac Brunson to preach 2010 convention sermon</b>.<br /><br />Wednesday, June 24, 2009 - 7:18:00 PM <br /><br />Messengers moments ago approved a recommendation from the Committee on Order of Business that Mac Brunson, senior pastor of First Baptist Church in Jacksonville, Fla., preach the 2010 convention sermon. Michael Catt, pastor of Sherwood (Ga.) Baptist Church, will serve as the alternate.New BBC Open Forumhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18300115421477555376noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-72195543899802128452009-06-26T17:48:00.731-04:002009-06-26T17:48:00.731-04:00Watchdog, I guess if you are an obsessive compulsi...Watchdog, I guess if you are an obsessive compulsive sociopath, that makes ALL us bloggers obsessive compulsive sociopaths. Not every word on this blog is written by you.<br /><br />It also makes Christa Brown an obsessive compulsive sociopath for blogging about HER cause. It makes Tiffany Croft an obsessive compulsive sociopath for blogging about Darrell Gilyard.<br /><br />Do we dare say Darrell Gilyard is an obsessive compulsive sociopath? Uh huh.<br /><br />We should start our own church - The Baptist Church of the Obsessive Compulsive Sociopaths.Richardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17613931887262871062noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-88796350280441772042009-06-26T17:27:04.363-04:002009-06-26T17:27:04.363-04:00If any one wishes to follow the discussion thread ...If any one wishes to follow the discussion thread at Baptist Life Forums of the above comment, head over <a href="http://forums.baptistlife.com/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=7116&start=25#p98294" rel="nofollow">here</a>.Rameshhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09728392311602332613noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-29106268495268421012009-06-26T17:01:36.707-04:002009-06-26T17:01:36.707-04:00Another gem from Steve Wilcox, a Brunson defender ...Another gem from Steve Wilcox, a Brunson defender who posts regularly over at BaptistLife.com:<br /><br /><i>"The more I read the WD blog the more I am leaning towards Dr. Brunson on this, <b>the blogger is an obsessive compulsive sociopath.</b><br /><br />He cannot stop blogging about a church he is not a member of anymore and he is out to get Dr. Brunson.<br /><br />It is not about transparency or a list of concerns anymore."</i><br /><br />It never ends. So a person who blogs about what they perceive to be church abuses, and that Wilcox doesn't agree with, is an "obsessive compulsive sociopath."<br /><br />I used to think you were an OK guy, Wilcox. First you threatened that the blogger would die of a heart attack, and now you're joining Brunson with the slander machine against someone who blogs in a way that you don't agree with about things you don't like.FBC Jax Watchdoghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10740366031265491559noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-81305820157631521232009-06-26T17:01:33.811-04:002009-06-26T17:01:33.811-04:00it was the year two thousand ten
you could hear a ...it was the year two thousand ten<br />you could hear a pen drop when the jury walked in.<br />guilty of slander, guilty of libel,<br />guilty of fraud and misinterpreting the Bible.<br /> <br />A gasp was made from back in the crowd,<br />We all looked behind us,and there sat Judge Soud.<br />He sat there scowling, a mean look on his face,<br />How could one man bring such disgrace.<br /> <br />Mac sat there, his head bowed in shame,<br />For years he had been best, at this great Preacher game.<br />He could preach from Matthew from Luke or from John,<br />But he could not say I'm sorry to a servant named Tom.<br /> <br />Just like a pear you don't pick till its ripe,<br />It pays not to start to believe your own hype.<br />You might just think, that your Gods gift, but a house built on sand,<br />the foundation may shift.Poor in Jaxnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-6807997706705898032009-06-26T16:29:00.091-04:002009-06-26T16:29:00.091-04:00Religious leaders critical of Vines
Muslims and C...<b>Religious leaders critical of Vines</b><br /><br /><i>Muslims and Christians alike said yesterday they were hurt and saddened that the pastor of Jacksonville's largest church publicly attacked Islam and called the prophet Muhammad a "<b>demon-possessed pedophile</b>."<br /><br />"The Rev. Jerry Vines, senior pastor of First Baptist Church, caused a national outcry with a speech he made Monday night at a Southern Baptist pastors' conference in St. Louis."</i><br /><br />Link to article dated June 13, 2002:<br /><br />http://www.jacksonville.com/tu-online/stories/061302/met_9655580.html<br /><br />what IS it with Baptists and name calling?Richardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17613931887262871062noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-39328573701161662672009-06-26T16:18:32.191-04:002009-06-26T16:18:32.191-04:00Paparazzi dude:
Like Daly, you are also suing an ...Paparazzi dude:<br /><br /><i>Like Daly, you are also suing an organization, First Baptist Church of Jacksonville, for "defamation".</i><br /><br />There has been no details of this lawsuit, other than what was reported in the news article, that mentioned Watchdog suing FBCJax for defamation. You either have inside information or are making an assumption.<br /><br /><i>Daly sued Morris, the newspaper, Jacksonville.com and former columnist Mike Freeman for a 2005 column that accused the golfer of smacking women and a thug lifestyle. He turned down a $5,000 settlement proposal from the newspaper, a reasonable offer in light of the facts, Carithers said in his order.</i><br /><br />Link to article:<br /><br />http://jacksonville.com/news/metro/2009-06-25/story/golfer_john_daly_ordered_to_pay_272_000_in_suit_against_times-union<br /><br />Perhaps it was determined in the trial that Daly DOES smack women and leads a thug lifestyle. From what I've seen, he is an embarrassment to the sport of Golf.<br /><br />And you might be surprised how many of us "FBCJ faithful defenders" would contribute our "tithes" to Watchdog's legal defense fund in God's name.<br /><br />Blasphemy? I think not.Richardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17613931887262871062noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-47765060315209144282009-06-26T16:03:45.032-04:002009-06-26T16:03:45.032-04:00First Baptist: Jacksonville's Urban Church
&q...<b>First Baptist: Jacksonville's Urban Church</b><br /><br /><i>"Covering over nine blocks of downtown, First Baptist's 15,000+ member congregation is one of the largest urban churches in the Southeast United States."</i><br /><br />Link to article Published May 2, 2008:<br /><br />http://www.metrojacksonville.com/article/2008-may-first-baptist-jacksonvilles-urban-church<br /><br />There are some nice photographs there of the campus, and the article was coincidentally published at the time of Shirley Lindsay's death.<br /><br />One should read the comments. Brunson was referred to by one commenter as <i>"the fat mustachioed donkey who is now there."</i><br /><br />ROFL!Richardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17613931887262871062noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-45113712547313753132009-06-26T15:54:46.504-04:002009-06-26T15:54:46.504-04:00I am so very sorry you have to deal with all of th...I am so very sorry you have to deal with all of this. It is a sad day when so called people in the ministry act like this. I am most disappointed in Debbie Brunson. My husband sometimes gets hot headed but I feel I need to help him see reality and get over it and not embarrassed himself and our family. Wish Debbie would do the same for her "man".Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-25379744796116176442009-06-26T15:27:14.966-04:002009-06-26T15:27:14.966-04:00Mr. Rich,
As you may have heard this week, profes...Mr. Rich,<br /><br />As you may have heard this week, professional golfer John Daly was ordered to pay $272,000 in legal expenses as a result of an unsuccessful "defamation" lawsuit against the Times-Union and its parent company.<br /><br />Like Daly, you are also suing an organization, First Baptist Church of Jacksonville, for "defamation". If and when you lose your lawsuit, what will be your next plan of action in the playbook of retribution?TomRich Paparazzinoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-87131021019052057592009-06-26T14:44:27.248-04:002009-06-26T14:44:27.248-04:00Off Topic:
VTMBottomLine [Paul Burleson] > Fol...Off Topic:<br /><br /><a href="http://vtmbottomline.blogspot.com/2009/06/following-example.html" rel="nofollow">VTMBottomLine [Paul Burleson] > Following An Example</a>.<br /><i>Four years later we have received word that Wade is laying aside writing anything of a political nature. Don't hear that as laying aside anything controversial because his theology will be that thank you. But he will be refusing to write anything that addresses the political state or condition of the SBC for the next year. I have not spoken to him since his announcement and am writing my thoughts without him knowing anything about what those thoughts might be. But I do have some thoughts.<br /><br />In my humble but accurate opinion, [:)] Wade has been operating under a real calling of God for these past four years. He has suffered rebuke, revilement, questioned motives, and has been called too many things/names to begin listing them here. But the truth is, he could care less because of a belief that he HAS had a calling of God for what he has done. It has always ONLY been a principled thing for him like him or not.</i>Rameshhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09728392311602332613noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-59852771060104274392009-06-26T13:22:24.280-04:002009-06-26T13:22:24.280-04:00To those supporters of Mac who do not believe this...To those supporters of Mac who do not believe this is all about power and money, try this simple test: Give "God's money" to the orphan, widow, poor, etc for a couple of months and not to Brunson's budget. Then watch him squirm and get angry and blame you for not trusting God. Then after a couple of more months, watch the seniors ministry, and the youth ministries get cut first, then watch him be "called" somewhere else. Trust me and try me in this, sayeth the blogger. And see if Mac and Maurilio will be long gone if the millions dry up.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com