tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post8934591862429419531..comments2024-03-23T22:54:58.661-04:00Comments on FBC Jax Watchdogs: First Baptist Files to Dismiss LawsuitFBC Jax Watchdoghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10740366031265491559noreply@blogger.comBlogger123125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-24833232670801386012009-09-23T12:13:12.121-04:002009-09-23T12:13:12.121-04:00The Bible says in Proverbs 16:18,"Pride goes ...The Bible says in Proverbs 16:18,"Pride goes before destruction, <br />a haughty spirit before a fall."<br /><br />Mac and his trustees are very arrogant and prideful. The Bible itself SAYS that prides goes before destruction! Mac and his FBC Jax trustees are going to be destroyed. Their haughty spirits will bring them down. AND if you disagree...well then, TAKE IT UP WITH THE BOOK! lol no I would never be that mean. ;)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-69565243684828795252009-09-23T11:55:40.706-04:002009-09-23T11:55:40.706-04:00And yes Tom does have plenty of credibility! He ha...And yes Tom does have plenty of credibility! He has two masters degrees from the University of Florida and is working on another one!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-6148158229526283502009-09-23T11:49:05.449-04:002009-09-23T11:49:05.449-04:00Well anon 5:58, tell that to Mac!! "Take it u...Well anon 5:58, tell that to Mac!! "Take it up with Mac!" Mac never practiced what he preached! That was one of the reasons this blog was started! Don't you see it? FBC Jax started this mess...Tom simply responded to them. You can't blame the WD for the hypocrisy only FBC Jax.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-10062008068230010882009-09-22T17:58:07.295-04:002009-09-22T17:58:07.295-04:00I always start my morning reading this spiritual g...I always start my morning reading this spiritual garbage. It just makes me glad I'm saved and don't live in Jax or go to your church (or Tom's new one either.)<br /><br />Its always funny that Tom castigates those who blog anonymously and then tells people if they don't like the complaining then quit reading the blog.<br /><br />Sounds like what you were told at FBC, Jax and you didn't like it much did you?<br /><br />Practice what you preach you hypocrite.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-23980537291433570592009-09-22T17:17:06.266-04:002009-09-22T17:17:06.266-04:00Tom has no credibility ANYWHERE except here on his...Tom has no credibility ANYWHERE except here on his therapy blog...all you Mac supporters need to leave him alone so he can play with his friends.<br />________________________________<br /><br />This was the goal of Mac Brunson and A.C. Soud when they slandered Tom in the newspaper and in the halls of the church and in those closed door meetings. Try and destroy the man's credibility. It hasn't worked. His credibility has gone up in everyone's eyes except the mac supporters.<br /><br />They wish they could have found some real dirt on this Christian man who has been a good father, good husband, good church member, and law abiding, tax paying citizen. They found nothing on him so they made stuff up, called him names, and went after his wife. Pathetic. It is the church, Brunson, and Soud who have lost tons of credibility in all of this. And you can bet they will do something about it too. We have yet to see what happens to the man who dares question or criticize these two "godly" Christian men, right? They will continue to show their true colors.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-43905198204506209742009-09-22T14:03:32.371-04:002009-09-22T14:03:32.371-04:00"We were there before Mac and the church does..."We were there before Mac and the church does not belong to him personally,"<br /><br />That is where you are wrong. It does belong to him personally. He has proved it many times over since he came. And they just go along.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-62957171650208591022009-09-22T13:28:53.068-04:002009-09-22T13:28:53.068-04:00If your view of the church is so accurate (and all...If your view of the church is so accurate (and all those who support Tom Rich), then you should either get out and join another church or get your butts into gear and start winning more people to Jesus."<br />_________________________________<br />Answer:<br />We were there before Mac and the church does not belong to him personally, btw, asking legitimate questions is not complaining.<br /><br />As for getting our butts in gear and start winning more people to Jesus, bringing a "Catholic" neighbor was not a pleasant experience when "Jimmy" went on a rant from the pulpit tearing down the denomination she was brought up in. <br /><br />Was very embarrasing - weeks, months, years, inviting this person and then this hateful and rage sermon was preached.<br /><br />Our "butts" are in gear - the seed I planted above died, thanks to Jimmy and his ever so loving sermon. <br /><br />Being Brunson is known as one of America's greatest preachers, he probably will move on soon to his next endeavor so don't feel the need to take your advice to "get out" or "join another church".<br /><br />P.S.<br />Johnny D . . .this individual is what I call one of those true blood annoying "in your face" Baptist who would have never won me over to the Lord. I became a believer, through LOVE!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-74625022598245814082009-09-22T12:55:12.174-04:002009-09-22T12:55:12.174-04:00Anon - why not get busy yourself and stop reading ...Anon - why not get busy yourself and stop reading this blog so much, and start winning people to Jesus? You say you are, huh? You mean I shouldn't infer that because you read this blog every day that you're NOT also winning people to Jesus? <br /><br />And stop complaining about this blog complaining. Maybe there is something thing worse than a complainer: someone complaining about a complainer. So move on and stop reading about all the complaining, and do something for the Lord. :)FBC Jax Watchdoghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10740366031265491559noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-66200575252997384172009-09-22T12:50:34.020-04:002009-09-22T12:50:34.020-04:00If your view of the church is so accurate (and all...If your view of the church is so accurate (and all those who support Tom Rich), then you should either get out and join another church or get your butts into gear and start winning more people to Jesus. After all, it is your church as you so frequently tell us and I would think you would be busy growing it instead of complaining about every jot and tittle.<br /><br />Too bad you don't have Tom there to help you any more. All he does is sit on the outside and complain.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-57435977793187534712009-09-22T11:21:12.382-04:002009-09-22T11:21:12.382-04:00We didn't need a dicipline policy until "...We didn't need a dicipline policy until "recently". Right!!! Seems like things were ok under the Lindsays.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-17229670379478016752009-09-22T11:17:01.305-04:002009-09-22T11:17:01.305-04:00My 10:12 comment of "what part of the blame s...My 10:12 comment of "what part of the blame should the church shoulder", was not meant as a support of the churches position, but as a question/statement meant to ask why the church thinks the current problems are "someone elses fault, and not any of the blame for this problem is theirs. Guess I didn't phrase my sentence correctly. My support is with WD.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-19619963519596993132009-09-22T11:13:28.186-04:002009-09-22T11:13:28.186-04:00Anonymous said...
When I watch FBC, Jax on tv it ...Anonymous said... <br />When I watch FBC, Jax on tv it seems they are doing quite well. Everyone is upbeat, the music is good, the preaching is passable and the sanctuary is full. Looks like Tom isn't having the effect that he desired. BTW, giving is down everywhere in Christendom so don't try to blame that all on Mac. Perhaps Tom should shoulder some of the blame for that with his anonymous blog.<br /><br />September 22, 2009 7:17 AM<br />_________________________________<br /><br />You said "when you watch TV" it appears FBC is doing well.<br /><br />There is no worry as Mac says "giving is up", membership is up" and FBC is doing great . . .<br />even you say the preaching is passable (right, we even listen to a message on why we must now have discipline in the church)<br /><br />the sanctuary is full. . .NOT, if you were actually there you would see plenty of empty seats with lots of elbow room in between people - we have a great camera crew, especially for the viewers on TV.<br /><br />Whatever, you can rest easy and not worry about this blog, as Mac tells us that all is well at FBC, however since his arrival he has informed us that along with other changes he has had to adopt a "discipline" policy for the church. Mmmmmm! <br /><br />Almost forgot to add the good news is that we've been told that the TV and internet audience has increased, so thanks for your assessment, but my VIEW is just the opposite of yours.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-43547892297011330852009-09-22T10:47:41.597-04:002009-09-22T10:47:41.597-04:00Anon 10:12 In Michigan, there is currently 18 perc...Anon 10:12 In Michigan, there is currently 18 percent unemployment. Don't you think that even in the slightest that the mentality that Brunson has is problematic a lacks theological support.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-24156130161813987702009-09-22T10:39:47.027-04:002009-09-22T10:39:47.027-04:00Anon 10:12 Keith meant that "Should the churc...Anon 10:12 Keith meant that "Should the church be dependent on the government?" Welfare should always stay at the local level because it is more manageable that way. Bloated salaries only encourage more governmental control. This is why our politics is so triangulated in the country. Brunson ignoring this issue only makes it worse. The only tithe that I can possibly see carried over in the NT is the welfare tithe. The other two dealt with the Jewish Temple and Isreal governmental taxes. The apostles gave and sought to NOT be a burden on the assemblies. Read and study Thessalonians as see where Paul stated this.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-10357141492226763232009-09-22T10:12:25.998-04:002009-09-22T10:12:25.998-04:00And what part of the blame is the church supposed ...And what part of the blame is the church supposed to shoulder?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-75944015657475785582009-09-22T07:17:35.673-04:002009-09-22T07:17:35.673-04:00When I watch FBC, Jax on tv it seems they are doin...When I watch FBC, Jax on tv it seems they are doing quite well. Everyone is upbeat, the music is good, the preaching is passable and the sanctuary is full. Looks like Tom isn't having the effect that he desired. BTW, giving is down everywhere in Christendom so don't try to blame that all on Mac. Perhaps Tom should shoulder some of the blame for that with his anonymous blog.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-18235869110168375522009-09-22T00:30:49.170-04:002009-09-22T00:30:49.170-04:00"If the church would do its job there would n..."If the church would do its job there would no need for welfare in this country".....Keith Green (Christian singer and prophet)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-46604797946949731232009-09-21T21:00:04.193-04:002009-09-21T21:00:04.193-04:00I believe too much water has passed over the dam n...I believe too much water has passed over the dam now for any apologies to be made and be of any consequence. Ain't gonna happen. It would not bring closure to the legal entanglement that was commenced against the Dog. The Dog needs his day in court. Whats better than a ruling by a judge as to what happens when someones constitutional rights have been violated, especially when that person has left the congregation and moved their letter signaling they have moved on!!! The church started the legal matter, so let it continue in the courts, where it belongs, for all to witness and see that justice is properly done. Assuming it will be justice. Which remains to be seen.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-29124331378855941852009-09-21T19:52:21.292-04:002009-09-21T19:52:21.292-04:00Following the logic of the mac supporters:
When y...Following the logic of the mac supporters:<br /><br />When your kid disobeys it is the parents fault for point that out. Too bad, parents you are bad for trying to correct your kids. The kids need to kick you out of your homes.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-62669111487197679852009-09-21T17:05:32.392-04:002009-09-21T17:05:32.392-04:00anons - you are wasting your time trying to reason...anons - you are wasting your time trying to reason with these mac supporters. If they had any ability to reason, they would not still be down there attending, not to mention giving him over a million dollars week in and week out.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-80081784683988983242009-09-21T16:22:42.985-04:002009-09-21T16:22:42.985-04:00Anonymous said...
I had know idea that this blog ...Anonymous said... <br />I had know idea that this blog was full of athiest...but I must say I am not surprised!!<br /><br />September 21, 2009 9:25 AM<br /><br />Of course you are. First, it would be "atheists" in the plural, not singular - especially since you led off with "full of" implying more than one. <br /><br />I should be a bit more clear. I'm somewhere between agnostic and atheist. Leave it at that. <br /><br />As for you, anonymous, you're just a zit on Mac's ass. You're here so he can "pop" you all over this blog. Go on, admit it - be proud of yourself. You couldn't put any deep thought into anything beyond a popsicle and Mac's next sermon - speaking of which - compare in sugary calories that do nothing but get you ready to send in another tithe while you come here and sin all over Tom's blog. <br /><br />No nothing, shallow freak. Wear it.Johnny D.https://www.blogger.com/profile/17141127764617679586noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-31055519493611115982009-09-21T15:49:23.422-04:002009-09-21T15:49:23.422-04:00Tsk, tsk, you boys are always trying to turn the t...Tsk, tsk, you boys are always trying to turn the tables and make Mac the culprit. It was Tom who started the blog so he should be the one to take the first step to reconciliation. Pure and simple.....<br /><br />After all Tom has said about Mac and FBC, Jax, I doubt seriously that things will ever be reconciled. I guess they will both stand before the Lord on the Judgment Day and give an account for their asinine behavior.<br /><br />(Please spare us all the constant listing of things that Tom doesn't like about Mac. We're all adults and we can read.)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-27718068321486722422009-09-21T15:28:19.050-04:002009-09-21T15:28:19.050-04:00Tom has no credibility ANYWHERE except here on his...Tom has no credibility ANYWHERE except here on his therapy blog...all you Mac supporters need to leave him alone so he can play with his friends.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-54109207982486329802009-09-21T14:58:36.354-04:002009-09-21T14:58:36.354-04:00Can this church be salvaged? I am betting (joke) a...Can this church be salvaged? I am betting (joke) against it. This church is riddled with a malignant case of self-righteousnes, complicated with side effects of prideful arrogance. All leading to a terminal diagnosis of "it's over". I am glad I wasn't part of the group that brought this great church (in the past) down. At least I won't have to face the Lord and answer to why I hurt members there. Anon 10:05, your points 1-10 were right on target. But, they will never see it that way due to the above diagnosis of pride and arrogance. Humility and Christian reconciliation (?).....they don't understand the concept. Plus, if they reconciled with one, then many of us might come out of the "woodwork" and demand an apology also, and that could take a long time to get around to everyone.<br />Prov. chp.15 vs.33: "The fear of the Lord is the instruction of wisdom; and before honor is humility".Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-62431718325283950162009-09-21T13:41:56.197-04:002009-09-21T13:41:56.197-04:00anon September 21, 2009 12:22 PM -
Since Tom start...anon September 21, 2009 12:22 PM -<br />Since Tom started this whole mess (with his blog and his anonymous identity) then perhaps he should start the path of spiritual healing.<br />__________________________________HHey, it looks like Tom is just not spiritual enough to do what you suggest. Or maybe he is a coward. So unfortunately, it looks like Mac and the church (who ARE more spiritual and more mature and are not such cowards) will need to step up and try to resolve this first. I don't think Tom is going to be the one to do it. Given that, you might want to reconsider what the CHURCH LEADERSHIP might be able to do? Anything THEY might be able to do now to resolve this? Or is it all up to one former member, Tom? Also, he is no longer anonymous now, so they can contact him right? And they are the ones that used the JSO and state attorney to open an investigation correct? And they are the ones with trespass warnings, correct? And they have NEVER even asked Tom to stop blogging have they? Ever? Not even once, have they? So why are YOU suggesting it? <br /><br />Or put another way, a non-christian flips me the bird in traffic, so I road rage into his car and cause an accident. He is not a christian and is suing me. My pastor advises me to go talk with the man and apologize, but I say, "he started it" and "he should apologize to me first for flipping me the bird." It never occurs to me that maybe I should go to him since I am more spiritual and plus, he is the one I want to drop the lawsuit. :) Right?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com