tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post909959346018847051..comments2024-03-23T22:54:58.661-04:00Comments on FBC Jax Watchdogs: New Minister at FBC Jax Piously Tells Church Members: Preacher's Salary "Ain't None of Yo' Business"FBC Jax Watchdoghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10740366031265491559noreply@blogger.comBlogger79125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-85031422716143957982011-11-02T12:56:05.325-04:002011-11-02T12:56:05.325-04:00No comment Ed?
Good move.No comment Ed?<br /><br />Good move.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-6326849821831485242011-10-29T10:12:31.794-04:002011-10-29T10:12:31.794-04:00"Anonwimp sez:"
So, was WD an "Ano..."Anonwimp sez:"<br /><br />So, was WD an "Anonwimp" before Mac outed him?<br /><br />Come on Ed, apply you bad thinking to it's logical conclusion.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-1933207728173933372011-10-29T10:10:29.593-04:002011-10-29T10:10:29.593-04:00WD, tell me it ain't true?!?!?
Ed Franklin co...WD, tell me it ain't true?!?!?<br /><br />Ed Franklin couldn't answer the question without making himself look like an idiot so he chose to make an ad hominem attack over a word that was automatically changed by spell checker. <br /><br />noooooooooooo<br /><br />not that!<br /><br />"Anonymously"<br /><br />Is that dumbed down enough for you?<br /><br />Now answer the question Ed and stop being a jerk.<br /><br />Perhaps you should start posting comments anonymously. <br /><br />At this point, I have a strong association between the words "Ed Franklin" and "idiot."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-52369626588891808242011-10-28T22:45:52.818-04:002011-10-28T22:45:52.818-04:00This comment has been removed by the author.Ed Franklinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05878045658191730881noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-48486323572631122122011-10-26T17:29:59.156-04:002011-10-26T17:29:59.156-04:00Ed,
You do realize that Tom was blogging autonomo...Ed,<br /><br />You do realize that Tom was blogging autonomously until he was outed by the FCBJAX gang right?<br /><br />So, was Tom a moral coward when he started this blog?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-15480677318323894492011-10-26T09:03:20.989-04:002011-10-26T09:03:20.989-04:00"moral coward"
I tell you, on the day o..."moral coward"<br /><br />I tell you, on the day of judgment people will give account for every careless word they speak, for by your words you will be justified, and by your words you will be condemned." <br />(Matthew 12:36-37)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-74840300550197274592011-10-25T23:43:46.637-04:002011-10-25T23:43:46.637-04:00This comment has been removed by the author.Ed Franklinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05878045658191730881noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-80774435982500005132011-10-25T22:14:29.585-04:002011-10-25T22:14:29.585-04:00This Danny Crosby guy is so much like Mac Brunson ...This Danny Crosby guy is so much like Mac Brunson in his mannerisms and condescenion of people. <br /><br />Just a younger clone of Mac-Daddy.<br /><br />Great post WD about all the travel junkets and to see that some marketing company is reeling them in. Filling up the cruise ships and aircraft cabins with sheeple.<br /><br />I always thought there something peculiar about those, now you have made it clear and it ain't pretty.<br /><br />Sad really.<br />GarlandoAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-53506019451209454252011-10-25T15:39:18.217-04:002011-10-25T15:39:18.217-04:00And how do we know you are really Ed Franklin? For...And how do we know you are really Ed Franklin? For all you know I could be Mac Brunson, Jim Smyrll, etc.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-29840510403044567772011-10-25T13:07:01.914-04:002011-10-25T13:07:01.914-04:00This comment has been removed by the author.Ed Franklinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05878045658191730881noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-52591434478022779802011-10-25T09:57:06.482-04:002011-10-25T09:57:06.482-04:00What a huge sign of the christian maturity level a...What a huge sign of the christian maturity level at FBC if all they can find is Danny Crosby. In reveiwing his resume', there are many red flags going off. I don't think he has held a job for more than 2 years, so what is the true story there? Also,if this is all they can find to replace Smyrl.. good grief they are in trouble. <br /><br />And by all means, the church hires the staff and pays their salary, so why would it not be public knowledge. So yeah, its ALL my business. <br /><br />When full disclosure doesn't happen, there is always some impropriety or something shady going on.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-56864118255416100532011-10-25T09:30:44.539-04:002011-10-25T09:30:44.539-04:00Anon 8:14 am
It has nothing to do with wanting i...Anon 8:14 am<br /> <br />It has nothing to do with wanting it both ways. All I'm saying is that if there is no public heresy or public immorality going on it's not my place nor yours to interfere with the dealings of a local church.<br /><br />I've already said that I think the assisant pastor's comments were outrageous. The members of FBC Jax have an absolute right to know the salaries.<br /><br />As far as your snide remarks about me personally, well, that's what it always comes down to, you hate pastors. Quite frankly someone screaming for someone else to be transparent all the while doing it from the cover of anonymity is laughable.John Wyliehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16095740536301292747noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-55066108712464144032011-10-25T08:14:33.603-04:002011-10-25T08:14:33.603-04:00But I have no more right to know what Mac Brunson ...But I have no more right to know what Mac Brunson makes than I do to go to your home and ask to see your check stub.<br /><br />October 24, 2011 3:05 PM<br /><br />This is a very typical view of pastors. When it is convenient, they are workers like everyone else. Other times they are specially called and anointed.<br /><br /><br />They tend to want it both ways. You see John, the difference is that I am not expecting my brothers and sisters in Christ to pay me a salary for my gifts in the body. You are. Then you want to claim this is priviledged information for the charlatans.<br /><br />Now, when it comes to one of your colleagues who is cultish in his authoritarianism, you want to pretend like his followers are mature enough spiritually to make distinctions. But we know that is not true. Not only from their actions but also their words on this blog. <br /><br />It is guys like Brunson who give pastors a bad name. Yet, you are more than willing to go along with autonomy instead of speaking out on abuses that affect you and the cause of Christ. <br /><br />The same "autonomy" arguements are used with the perverts and molesters in the SBC pulpits. It is very shameful.<br /><br />I believe pastors have to be by-passed and we must educate the pew sitter. Pastors have too much to lose.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-22983524996072130552011-10-24T20:59:54.854-04:002011-10-24T20:59:54.854-04:00When Dr Lindsay came to FBCJ in 1968 everyone at t...When Dr Lindsay came to FBCJ in 1968 everyone at the church service one Wed night when we voted him in knew what his salary was. Even when Dr Vines came in 1982 everyone knew what his salary was since all 200 deacons and their wives knew and certainly that information was passed around rather quickly. Of course the salaries of church personnel should be known...its that simple.<br /><br />This type of secrecy only brings about discord among the brethren especially when some have knowledge and others do not.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-53751132330103646682011-10-24T20:08:36.668-04:002011-10-24T20:08:36.668-04:00Anon 9:35 AM. Dr. Lindsay NEVER left during the in...Anon 9:35 AM. Dr. Lindsay NEVER left during the invitation to go to another church. He always led by example not "Do as I say, not as I do" mentality that Mac Brunson has.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-8573077392216009192011-10-24T20:00:20.655-04:002011-10-24T20:00:20.655-04:00Anon. 2:29 PM. So he had to be at another church t...Anon. 2:29 PM. So he had to be at another church that night.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-89808463349046142102011-10-24T15:05:21.000-04:002011-10-24T15:05:21.000-04:00Anon 12:51 pm said
"Then it is only logical ...Anon 12:51 pm said<br /><br />"Then it is only logical that it is equally none of your business how they behave or what they teach. And that is why pastors are losing credibility by the minute. <br /><br />After all, Jim Jones had "autonomy"."<br /><br />No I don't think your conclusion is correct. Because if someone is teaching error publicly or is behaving immorally publicly then we all have an obligation to address that. Jim Jones had nine hundred people killed, that's everyone's business. <br /><br />But how much a local church pays its staff or how it handles its finances is only the business of the members of that church. Now if improprieties become public, then I think it's okay for other people to address it. But I have no more right to know what Mac Brunson makes than I do to go to your home and ask to see your check stub.John Wyliehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16095740536301292747noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-2942534650939380632011-10-24T14:29:34.535-04:002011-10-24T14:29:34.535-04:00"Funny thing is that last week Mac Brunson wa..."Funny thing is that last week Mac Brunson walked out of the auditorium at the start of the invitation because he had to be at another church that night."<br /><br />You need to get another battery for your hearing aid fellow member. <br /><br />He had to leave to drive down south to close out a statewide missions conference.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-48540841987834917212011-10-24T12:56:32.902-04:002011-10-24T12:56:32.902-04:00My guess is that there never was a woman saying su...My guess is that there never was a woman saying such a thing in a restuarant. It was all conjured up by Mac so that he was not the only one making a point about himself and what he makes. There is probably more grumbling going on than people think and he knows it. Or, it could be the blog is getting to him again.<br /><br />Crosby is a good little lemming. After all, such good paying mega church jobs don't come your way every day. I hope Crosby is a good little Mac worshiper or he won't last, either.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-31076060998224351472011-10-24T12:51:43.724-04:002011-10-24T12:51:43.724-04:00" I would love for some of you to be pastor f..." I would love for some of you to be pastor for a while and put up with the whining, griping, complaining, dying, sickness and all the other stuff."<br /><br />Stupid flock, getting sick and dying all the time. Good night! Isn't this the call of every Christian? And we are supposed to feel sorry for pastors who must put up with those who are hurting?<br /><br />Something is very, very wrong in the ministry if this is considered a burden. Jesus spent His time with the sick and the dying. He did not spend his time hobnobbing with the Pharisees and taking Mediterranean cruises. (Well, He did go out once or twice on the Sea of Galilee but I do not think midnight buffets were offered.)<br /><br />I am truly flummoxed by this comment. Keep exposing this stuff, Tom.Deenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-13298005898041457032011-10-24T12:51:14.371-04:002011-10-24T12:51:14.371-04:00Oh, I don't think it's sin to inquire. But...Oh, I don't think it's sin to inquire. But I maintain my point that the only people who have an absolute right to know about the church's finances are the members of that church or parachurch organization and, of course, the IRS. I don't donate to Benny Hinn, Paul Crouch, or Ed Young, therefore, it's none of my business what they make.<br /><br />October 24, 2011 10:43 AM<br /><br />Then it is only logical that it is equally none of your business how they behave or what they teach. And that is why pastors are losing credibility by the minute. <br /><br />After all, Jim Jones had "autonomy".Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-70780124093569837582011-10-24T12:32:57.707-04:002011-10-24T12:32:57.707-04:00But I maintain my point that the only people who h...But I maintain my point that the only people who have an absolute right to know about the church's finances are the members of that church or parachurch organization and<br /><br />John Wylie, I also agree with your assessment about internal doing in the church, it is their business. However, it dose not sound christian to hide what is used to spread the gospel.<br /><br />The truth may be that some churches are more closer to a program center that seeks out people that fits their bill for control. no matter the internal business is the church.<br /><br />The question could be asked is it gods business as god was sometime non-transparent in communication with the created. Churches are behaving god like but they always have.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-55781636151664055092011-10-24T12:19:31.449-04:002011-10-24T12:19:31.449-04:00It is our business what Hinn,Crouch and all the ot...It is our business what Hinn,Crouch and all the other big shots make since their organizations are tax exempt.Without any oversite or transparency who knows what is going on behind the scenes.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-63422451565123492702011-10-24T10:57:36.780-04:002011-10-24T10:57:36.780-04:00" I would love for some of you to be pastor f..." I would love for some of you to be pastor for a while and put up with the whining, griping, complaining, dying, sickness and all the other stuff. Not all pastors are mega-pastors and thank God not all members are malcontents"<br /><br /><br />I would say a Pastor who feels this way was not called to be a shepherd of the flock - what amazes me is so many in the ministry who have to take anti-depressant pills to do their work - sorry the ministry work is a piece of cake compared to those of us who work in the real wokforce who put up with the same thing, and then show up at church to be volunteer workers. Danny boy, for his young age sure hasn't a track record of staying in one place for long - he won't last @ FBCJ.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384632623933772727.post-11716613819794909192011-10-24T10:43:07.931-04:002011-10-24T10:43:07.931-04:00Anon 10:20 AM,
Oh, I don't think it's sin...Anon 10:20 AM,<br /><br />Oh, I don't think it's sin to inquire. But I maintain my point that the only people who have an absolute right to know about the church's finances are the members of that church or parachurch organization and, of course, the IRS. I don't donate to Benny Hinn, Paul Crouch, or Ed Young, therefore, it's none of my business what they make.John Wyliehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16095740536301292747noreply@blogger.com